What you guys think about this?
I'd fight bika and unify then come back and fight groves then go for ward
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What you guys think about this?
I'd fight bika and unify then come back and fight groves then go for ward
It might not be the worse move ever for Froch But I don't know if he would go down that route. He doesn't seem like he wants to fight for much longer and will probably only be gunning for the big named fights. But if he does go for a unification he would have a massive bargaining tool for a rematch with Ward, three belts is massive. Imagine if he got the fourth as well from Germany and had a full unification with Ward...now that would be a showdown to remember...
Ps fuck Groves he was lucky to get a shot anyway , he can wait and will be lucky to get another shot ...he's doing the same to Degale...so let the ginger nob cry
Froch wins...
Both would be avoiding deserved rematches. Sounds like boxing this century, I do not approve. And Froch would make more fighting in the UK so it'd especially look bad on his part.
Only way I like this is if Groves gets Stieglitz. Then rematch for all 4 belts in London. Would be cracking stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
That would work out nicely, with Ward taking all the belts from them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeOnly way I like this is if Groves gets Stieglitz. Then rematch for all 4 belts in London. Would be cracking stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Let it go Tam. Froch is the one who has turned out to be a knob, not Groves.
Groves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
its a dangerous fight for froch but is tempting because of the belt situation because it could lead him to another fight with ward. i think that he avoids the fight though and i wouldnt necessarily blame him.
I agree about the Chelsea part. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonGroves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Papers say that Froch will not give Groves a rematch because he is behaving like a spoilt brat.
Yeah thats what I reckon. Although Bika has a title now he will still be avoided by the other title holders. Hes such a handfull hes too much of a risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I really want Bika to get the Chavez fight. Its easily winable for him, will get him good money and massive exposure. If any fighter in the world deserves some money and fame now its Bika. Hes fought everyone and given everyone a hard fight. Never in a dull fight, always in shape and been around years and not declining.
The papers are right, Carl is acting like a spoiled brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI agree about the Chelsea part. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonGroves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Papers say that Froch will not give Groves a rematch because he is behaving like a spoilt brat.
Its the other way round, Froch was deprived of his knockout victory, froch always comes on strong at the end of the fights and there was a third left of the fight. Groves was clearly hurt and tiring and Froch was coming on strong. Groves was winning im not denying that fact, but he bottled it, if he was in such command he should of won the fight but he didn't because the ref saved him from a beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThe papers are right, Carl is acting like a spoiled brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI agree about the Chelsea part. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonGroves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Papers say that Froch will not give Groves a rematch because he is behaving like a spoilt brat.
hahahahha. Come on @TamSeddon! It was a tough night for the Nottingham Knight, but don't get carried away, Groves had beat him around the ring for the better part of their scrap. He had hurt Froch on multiple occasions. Even if he was on his way to getting stopped, which I dispute, he still showed Froch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonIts the other way round, Froch was deprived of his knockout victory, froch always comes on strong at the end of the fights and there was a third left of the fight. Groves was clearly hurt and tiring and Froch was coming on strong. Groves was winning im not denying that fact, but he bottled it, if he was in such command he should of won the fight but he didn't because the ref saved him from a beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThe papers are right, Carl is acting like a spoiled brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI agree about the Chelsea part. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonGroves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Papers say that Froch will not give Groves a rematch because he is behaving like a spoilt brat.
As I said Groves was winning the fight, im not denying that but it takes a true champion to get back into a fight when behind. Froch comes on strong at the end, how many times has he shown that? He had Groves hurt and had a third of the fight left to go and with Groves tiring, he would have got KTFO !Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrathahahahha. Come on @TamSeddon! It was a tough night for the Nottingham Knight, but don't get carried away, Groves had beat him around the ring for the better part of their scrap. He had hurt Froch on multiple occasions. Even if he was on his way to getting stopped, which I dispute, he still showed Froch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonIts the other way round, Froch was deprived of his knockout victory, froch always comes on strong at the end of the fights and there was a third left of the fight. Groves was clearly hurt and tiring and Froch was coming on strong. Groves was winning im not denying that fact, but he bottled it, if he was in such command he should of won the fight but he didn't because the ref saved him from a beat down.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThe papers are right, Carl is acting like a spoiled brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI agree about the Chelsea part. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonGroves is a full nob and he supports Chelsea...I say no more!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Papers say that Froch will not give Groves a rematch because he is behaving like a spoilt brat.
That is a little bit sad.
no doubt beanz it was a shit ending and froch was losing im not bitter saying he was winning because I know he wasn't. Knockouts happen late in fights especially with how much Groves put into the fight, he was tiring, hence why he got caught!!!
But back to the subject of the thread, there is no reason why Froch would take a Bika fight, if he has more lucrative matches out there with Junior, GGG and Ward.
Not sure if that's true. Jr is the WBC presidents pet and is posthumously lined up to get at Bika. Way less risk for Junior. The WBC also hates unification and will only agree to it if a fighter is at a certain stature or is Mexican. I dont think Ward has any interest in a rematch and could be in court for 2014 trying to escape Goossen. Will 3G actually go to 168? Btw he'd make a boat load of cash with a Groves rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I hate to bang on about this but Bika is relentless and consistently so. He doesn't ever have an off night where he puts in an indifferent performance, every fight is like his last!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNot sure if that's true. Jr is the WBC presidents pet and is posthumously lined up to get at Bika. Way less risk for Junior. The WBC also hates unification and will only agree to it if a fighter is at a certain stature or is Mexican. I dont think Ward has any interest in a rematch and could be in court for 2014 trying to escape Goossen. Will 3G actually go to 168? Btw he'd make a boat load of cash with a Groves rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Chavez has far more chance against Froch who can be lulled in to a dull match like against Abraham or Johnson where the pace could be kept by Chavez easily.
Against Bika hes going to be punched everywhere and all night. Chavez doesnt have genuine super middle power or strength to make bika think twice.
Then look at Froch and Bikas respective performances against Ward and Ward had a tougher time with Bika.
That is just supposition. Froch MAY have gone on to win by Knockout but it is actually more likely that Groves would have knocked him out. Froch is not a monster puncher, even against Bute the guy was still on his feet, Groves on the other hand is more than capable of Knocking someone spark out and just as capable of weathering a storm and coming back to stop the other guy. It looks like we will never know because Froch is refusing to get back in to the Lions Den. The disrespect he has shown Groves before and after leaves a bad taste in the mouth for many of his former fans and neutrals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
When people talk about respect Carl showed very little, to George it was a great fight many fansQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThat is just supposition. Froch MAY have gone on to win by Knockout but it is actually more likely that Groves would have knocked him out. Froch is not a monster puncher, even against Bute the guy was still on his feet, Groves on the other hand is more than capable of Knocking someone spark out and just as capable of weathering a storm and coming back to stop the other guy. It looks like we will never know because Froch is refusing to get back in to the Lions Den. The disrespect he has shown Groves before and after leaves a bad taste in the mouth for many of his former fans and neutrals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
feel this is one of them unfinished fights yes Froch won just about.
The thing is many fans feel cheated, at the way it ended was Froch gifted a win by the ref many feel
SO, Carl you say you will fight any one, this fight would give him largest purse of your carer, is fear
of losing or easy picking elsewhere.
Did this fight take some wind out of Froch's sail, it just could be so come on Froch give us a rematch
come on you no you want TO.:rolleyes:
100% Chavez beats Bika. DQ :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rossI hate to bang on about this but Bika is relentless and consistently so. He doesn't ever have an off night where he puts in an indifferent performance, every fight is like his last!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNot sure if that's true. Jr is the WBC presidents pet and is posthumously lined up to get at Bika. Way less risk for Junior. The WBC also hates unification and will only agree to it if a fighter is at a certain stature or is Mexican. I dont think Ward has any interest in a rematch and could be in court for 2014 trying to escape Goossen. Will 3G actually go to 168? Btw he'd make a boat load of cash with a Groves rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Chavez has far more chance against Froch who can be lulled in to a dull match like against Abraham or Johnson where the pace could be kept by Chavez easily.
Against Bika hes going to be punched everywhere and all night. Chavez doesnt have genuine super middle power or strength to make bika think twice.
Then look at Froch and Bikas respective performances against Ward and Ward had a tougher time with Bika.