What does being American mean to you?
No judgement, I'm just interested in your opinions.
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What does being American mean to you?
No judgement, I'm just interested in your opinions.
America was a nation established under God with Jesus as a kingQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Eventually, America got corrupted and transformed into spritual Sodom and Egypt, ruled by Satan
There's a difference in what being American means to ME and what it actually means right now.
Right now it means surveillance, constant skirmishes with an inferior foe, ignoring debt, ignoring real problems, always playing politics, and never solving problems.
To ME being an American means self reliance but also being there for your neighbor, it means liberty, it means freedom, it means personal responsibility. It means though I may be different than my neighbors we stand together when it comes to each other's rights. And it SHOULD mean that as little government as possible is needed for our success.
I find it a hollow word. I don't identify with it at all.
Being American means you rule the world.
I'm sorry....was the question posed to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No but that is what I would have said. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI'm sorry....was the question posed to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Is it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You may be right but from the outside looking in, that is what I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIs it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
From the outside looking in....want me to do the same with England?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou may be right but from the outside looking in, that is what I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIs it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You mean you don't already?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongFrom the outside looking in....want me to do the same with England?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou may be right but from the outside looking in, that is what I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIs it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I could go in deeper detailQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou mean you don't already?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongFrom the outside looking in....want me to do the same with England?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou may be right but from the outside looking in, that is what I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIs it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No, you have gone deep enough. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI could go in deeper detailQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou mean you don't already?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongFrom the outside looking in....want me to do the same with England?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou may be right but from the outside looking in, that is what I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIs it? If you were American you'd probably have a different mindset, but that's just my take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Individuality and to be self sufficient and just as quickly being as stupid and light hearted with the time and rewards gained from doing so as I wish with who I wish. America is not a flag, its not a slogan or some list of regulations and increasing laws hatched and enforced by old white men based on some doctrine. At least it shouldn't be. The freedom to do with mine what I will and understanding responsibility when doing so.
America is a decent place. We have a lot of bullshit with the NSA things that make us disappointed in ourselves. I would like to see our government pay attention to the constitution. I didn't vote for Obama so I didn't like him to begin with but I did not expect this to go so off the wire with him.
I guess all this shit will come to pass. We do have a big beautiful country with a lot of decent people. We still have people come here with nothing and become successful. I think most of our positives are not even brought up in world news anymore. It's alright, we are not naive, we live here. We as a people are good people. Currently, our politicians are worthless. But our diversity, the freedoms we still manage to keep and the Boston Red Sox make this a great country. Baseball, Apple pies, Chevrolets a nice rifle and Marlboro cigs, God, America is the shit.
First of all i would like to say, i'm not an American, But i live there part-time. I do belive that it's a great place to live, Most people are really nice, everybody doesn't look that good but they are nice to talk to.
And i have no clue about their economy, just know that the IRS is a pain in the ass.
Anyway America means a lot to me, thats where i make my money, my work. Without it I wouldn't be who i am today. It's not only work, whenever i'm over there a few times a year, it feels like a vacation too. It's a land of opportunities, like no where else, especially in southern California which I'm familiar with. For example, i'm interested in a helicopter certificate, i do it in the states for half the price, i just call them up and in the next 30 minutes i be in the air if i want too. It's not possible where i'm from (Sweden)
The food is great with good servings, top quality, nice restaurant and fantastic prices, might depends where you go but mostly you get good servings, as I'm talking about proper food, no fast food chains.
But on the other hand i think it might be a rough country to live in too. Hard to get a decent job, Prices in hospitals are ridiculous high, Traffic is terrible and while it's rush hour you don't wanna be out there. and the quality of their roads are terrible, even though it always maintenance but they always want to fix stuff as fast as possible, no feelings for quality. and 3 months later they back doing the same job they was doing 3 months ago, and they have electricity in the air still. These stuff cost heaps of money to fix, but i say it again, i have no clue about Americas economy.
Most Scandinavian people see Americans as they are dumb or stupid. i'm not making this up! but i just think they are a bit less educated.
Overall i love America, and this is the feeling i got from the states after 32 visits in the last 20 years and please don't judge don't wanna upset someone, this is my opinion.
Nothing wrong with what you said. Roads are bad in certain areas but nice in the Midwest. California is notorious for bad traffic. I live on the east coast, traffic is not that bad. Interesting to hear you say we don't look that good. Other than that, you have some validity to your observations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
As i mean dont look that good i don't mean any personally, i mean average, like old soldiers, you see people walk down the street with no arms, a lot of people in wheel chairs, really over weight people. It's normal in the states to see this, but i rarely see it home, i do but not as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNothing wrong with what you said. Roads are bad in certain areas but nice in the Midwest. California is notorious for bad traffic. I live on the east coast, traffic is not that bad. Interesting to hear you say we don't look that good. Other than that, you have some validity to your observations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xwetie
I think a lot of it again with those freedoms is the need to be self sustaining and responsible. Be it with education or what you eat the choices are limitless. Spot on about roads Xwetie. I do see a lot of short term thinking, we like things instant. The infrastructure of bridges, highways down to the simplest strip mall are not always the best or thought out. We build and build but just as soon close down store fronts. Locally we are infamous for our pot holes and the parish to parish or State infighting with funding of key city departments, maintenance and upkeep. They fix things with a half ass approach with little concern for real solution with local roadworks. The planning was seemingly done by someone who had only driven in video games and not the real world or the elements. I've driven across the country many times but the feeder roads, on ramps and off ramps in this city are death traps. You can close your eyes and tell when you hit the State lines on the highway..from bump bump bump to smoooooth drive in an instant when you hit Mississippi for example. Some of the biggest pot holes have names and corner stores will tell you give running counts on the wrecks.
To be a good American means you have to be willing to take it up the ass everyday.
Miles, did you hijack this guy's accountQuote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
means I was born in a place that the sky was supposedly the limit and all things would come out good if you put the hard work in. Thing is, that ended in like 1970. I put the hard work into a Masters degree and sent out over 1,250 resumes/CVs to Fortune 500 marketing departments..............no $50 thousand dollar a year starting offer for a fresh graduate and kept sending and sending..........to no avail. no interviews........nothing
rejection letters and 65 thousand dollars of student loans to pay back from a BA and a Masters. Had to take $14 dollar an hour customer service jobs just to pay the rent and survive and became very bitter............the scam that university is..........the scam that America is...........
Just thought I would teach the NSA that I know a trick or two. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusMiles, did you hijack this guy's accountQuote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
My Daughter just got her Masters. She's in the same boat. She is talking about moving to Canada or Europe. Now that's sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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My Daughter just got her Masters. She's in the same boat. She is talking about moving to Canada or Europe. Now that's sad.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about Europe the job market is kinda low at the moment. About the same as in US. I went to Australia and i found heaps of work, even got asked a lot, and it's quite sunny. But Canada doesn't sound that bad tho!
She needs work experience, that helps to get her on the job ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1My Daughter just got her Masters. She's in the same boat. She is talking about moving to Canada or Europe. Now that's sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Not true. The "under god" bit only got added to various nationalistic phrases and pledges in the 1950s.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAmerica was a nation established under God with Jesus as a kingQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Eventually, America got corrupted and transformed into spritual Sodom and Egypt, ruled by Satan
Do you believe in the one true god? Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
America is a business.
And we are her slaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing