I just feel it.. What are your thoughts on Perez?
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I just feel it.. What are your thoughts on Perez?
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I don't know about that, but I think he's perhaps got a better skillset than anyone outside of Wlad. He has a fight coming up on the Bute-Pascal undercard which is nice, hope he hasn't been to rattled by what happened against Mago in his last fight. Power and size are already his shortcomings, he can't afford to lose an edge.
I like Mike Perez, I think he is a decent, entertaining Heavyweight. I'd say the guy is clearly top 10 in the division right now, but 3rd is a little high for me. His size might be his downfall in this division.
Perez is a really good fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Wish he had more power but his size will be his real limiter at heavy, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlPerez is a really good fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
UMMMMM yeah I'm going to have to disagree on that. Talented as he is he's not #3. Maybe he's the 3rd best SMALL heavyweight, but he's got a ways to go and plenty of people to fight before being #3 in the world.
6'1, 20 wins, 12 KO....not especially great on defense, little to no pop, not super fast. He just seems average, consistent but average.
He fights Carlos Takam soon...that's a solid fight to be honest. If Takam slips a few of the shots Mago took and counters then Perez's 0 will soon be history.
I dont have a lot of faith in it to be honest. He looked "decent" against Abdusalamov, a guy who just walked forward with no defense. I wasn't really impressed with Perez's skill, he landed a lot of clean shots but he also took a lot of punches himself.
He's a short guy by today's HW standards and seems like he weights 30lbs more than he should.
If you're going to be successful as a small heavyweight then you're going to have to either be technically and tactically brilliant or extremely gifted athletically. You basically have to be a freak of nature or just a brilliant fighter.
Earnie Shavers or Chris Byrd
Those are your options and Perez sure doesn't punch like Earnie and he can't move like Chris.
Carlos Takam isn't a world beater, but he's built like a brick shit house and he's got some fairly quick hands.
You be the judge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQGMHyQx-M0
Carlos Takam has got no chance if that form with Greg Tony is to be believed.
It's unfair to call Perez a powderpuff puncher, for sure he's a small heavyweight by todays standards, but he's already blasted out some giants. He needs to be kept active, which finally seems to be happening and although obviously not the 3rd best in the world on current form he's probably the current best to watch.
Perez-Magomed, tragic as it is, was the best heavyweight fight in ages. That's why Perez is straight back on HBO.
That fight vs Tony was 3 years ago #1 and #2 Perez fought Tony in a 3 rounder, Takam fought him in an 8 rounder HUGE difference!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Who has Perez "blasted out"? Tye Fields???
Wouldn't have mattered if Tony faced Perez in a 60 seconder let alone a three rounder. "If that form is to be believed" - means that I understand that paper form isn't the gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThat fight vs Tony was 3 years ago #1 and #2 Perez fought Tony in a 3 rounder, Takam fought him in an 8 rounder HUGE difference!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Who has Perez "blasted out"? Tye Fields???
Perez has enough crack to get respect off any heavyweight. That's how I see it anyway.
Alright IF Takam is in that horrible form, yeah he'll probably lose...big IFQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah Perez has pop if you allow him to wind up and smack you, but he's got below average power for a contender. Also he took some punishment in the Mago fight too let's not forget, and fighters can wilt after such a difficult physical match.
I'm picking Takam by 8th round TKO
I'd like to see Perez beat a Arreola or Andy Ruiz Jr before we even discuss him taking on the big boys.
Pffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
When has Perez shown any weakness in his punch resistance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Perez is on another level and he beats any version of Takam...Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAlright IF Takam is in that horrible form, yeah he'll probably lose...big IFQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah Perez has pop if you allow him to wind up and smack you, but he's got below average power for a contender. Also he took some punishment in the Mago fight too let's not forget, and fighters can wilt after such a difficult physical match.
I'm picking Takam by 8th round TKO
Do we have a gentlemen's bet?
Sure thing
Cool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
A gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I checked the odds for Takam-Perez.....wow those guys rate Perez fairly well. On one site €10 would get €12.22 for Perez and €40 for Takam, outrageous!
The odds look accurate so im not surprised.. why is that outrageous?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Takam stopped Michael Grant who had been on a roll
Michael who? Lol hellooo 1999 wants its fighter back.. he beat tye fields and botha after getting schooled by adamek.. I wouldnt call that " being on a roll "..Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
This is a mismatch bro. It is simply a showcase fight for perez....
I will say this though.. only way this fight dont turn out as expected is if perez' last fight affected him mentally which I doubt since abdu has waken up and recovering.
You ALMOST got a neg-rep from me. But only because you are my closest ally on Saddo, I decided to not do it- also because of your good posting in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
With that being said, this is SOOOOO disrespectful. lololol.... Mike Perez? Really?
Let's see him face Jennings/Arreola/Stiverne or Wilder... then we can chat about it. Even a Tony Thompson. Ok?
His defense is horrible and Mago smacked him around a lot! And I was never sold on his power, I mean it was above average but nothing amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlWhen has Perez shown any weakness in his punch resistance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
he was never in trouble he has a good chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHis defense is horrible and Mago smacked him around a lot! And I was never sold on his power, I mean it was above average but nothing amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlWhen has Perez shown any weakness in his punch resistance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Perez may not be as accomplished as some of these other contenders but just based off the eyeball test, I think he has more skills than most.. He's a quick fisted southpaw with tolerable power and the right amount of slickness and on top of that, he can take a punch.. Those attributes can take a fighter long way in today's HW division.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaYou ALMOST got a neg-rep from me. But only because you are my closest ally on Saddo, I decided to not do it- also because of your good posting in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
With that being said, this is SOOOOO disrespectful. lololol.... Mike Perez? Really?
Let's see him face Jennings/Arreola/Stiverne or Wilder... then we can chat about it. Even a Tony Thompson. Ok?
I just can't see guys like Arreola competing with him..
After Wlad leaves the sport, we will have a shit heavy division. My hopes are for Wilder to step up his game and become the next best HWY. Mike Perez is good but not material to be the best in the world, even in a shit division
Takam has busier/ faster hands and will attack the body unlike Mago didQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Alhe was never in trouble he has a good chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHis defense is horrible and Mago smacked him around a lot! And I was never sold on his power, I mean it was above average but nothing amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlWhen has Perez shown any weakness in his punch resistance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Hmm, I understand why you may have this opinion.
In terms or power, toughness, chin, etc, maybe he is up there
but in terms of technical ability, movement, blocking, range finding, I disagree.
He has a great chin which is good because he's easy to hit, and tbh I actually think his power is overrated a little.
Its not that he has a bad chin its that he allowed himself to get tagged by a guy who telegraphed his big looping punches.... not the sign of a good boxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Alhe was never in trouble he has a good chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHis defense is horrible and Mago smacked him around a lot! And I was never sold on his power, I mean it was above average but nothing amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlWhen has Perez shown any weakness in his punch resistance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPffft maybe he'd be able to take their sisters but not them. He would get HAMMERED! Those fat bastards can punch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
It's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Didn't you make a sig bet with someone else as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIt's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I did... it's not a problem is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongDidn't you make a sig bet with someone else as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIt's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not for me but if you're wrong twice it might be a problem for youQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI did... it's not a problem is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongDidn't you make a sig bet with someone else as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIt's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
No problem I assure you.. and besides, I only pick winners..:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNot for me but if you're wrong twice it might be a problem for youQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI did... it's not a problem is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongDidn't you make a sig bet with someone else as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIt's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He sure didn't look like a world beater tonight...
Agreed :-\ did his previous fight play a part?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I will PM you the sig change.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNo problem I assure you.. and besides, I only pick winners..:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNot for me but if you're wrong twice it might be a problem for youQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI did... it's not a problem is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongDidn't you make a sig bet with someone else as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaIt's on and poppinQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongA gentleman's bet is for nothing. But if you insistQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCool.. 2 weeks sig betQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong