Curtis Stevens calls out Kid Chocolate for Brooklyn bragging rights
This fight makes sense.. what kind of chance do u give Stevens?
I personally do not give him a snowball's chance in hell against Kid Choco but he certainly has been improving.
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This fight makes sense.. what kind of chance do u give Stevens?
I personally do not give him a snowball's chance in hell against Kid Choco but he certainly has been improving.
I think he has a great chance. Id actually back him if odds were big enough. Quillin aint that good. I had him behind against Rosado before a suspect stoppage and had him losing every round he didnt score a KD v Ndam. Stevens has shown he has a good chin, took some good shots agaisnt GGG and has good boxing skills.
The way I see the MW div is GGG number 1, Martinez number 2 and then a shitload at a level below the top 2 including Stevens, Quillin, Murray, Sturm etc etc
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FinitoElDinamita
This fight makes sense.. what kind of chance do u give Stevens?
I personally do not give him a snowball's chance in hell against Kid Choco but he certainly has been improving.
I think he has a great chance. Id actually back him if odds were big enough. Quillin aint that good. I had him behind against Rosado before a suspect stoppage and had him losing every round he didnt score a KD v Ndam. Stevens has shown he has a good chin, took some good shots agaisnt GGG and has good boxing skills.
The way I see the MW div is GGG number 1, Martinez number 2 and then a shitload at a level below the top 2 including Stevens, Quillin, Murray, Sturm etc etc
That is hard on Quillan he is better than you portray him. He is probably the third best middleweight in the world.
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Chocolate should win, but I give Stevens a SIGNIFICANT puncher's chance.
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I like Quillen a lot but I was disappointed with his performance against Rosario. I expected Quillen to dominate but that was far from the case.
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sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses
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I think Quillin is a good level above Stevens and a better boxer than given credit for. He'd do a number on him if you ask me.
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i agree that this fight makes sense. i think that it should be made. i would be a fan friendly fight and could get a good showing at the arena. i doubt that quillen takes that big of a risk though. i think that stevens has an alright chance to win it.
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I think it's a great fight. I doubt Kid Chocolate would take the fight though because it's risky. Stevens can win it and Quillin should be favored. It'll be good because we can continue to compare Kid Chocolate and GGG if Kid Chocolate fights Stevens. So far we can all agree that GGG has looked better against common opponents.
Kid Chocolate had a good amount of trouble with Rosado. If I recall, I had a draw or Kid Chocolate winning by a round at the time of the stoppage, but it appeared that Rosado was coming on late.
Kid Chocolate owes Rosado a rematch to end any controversy over the stoppage. My reaction to the Kid Chocolate-Rosado fight was that Kid Chocolate needs more seasoning before he gets in the ring with a GGG level fighter etc.
Re: Curtis Stevens calls out Kid Chocolate for Brooklyn bragging rights
Stevens nearly knocked somebody out with a jab on Saturday night. Who knows what happens when he hits Quillin on the chin?
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sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses
Lol. Strange he decided to fight Cotto next rather then GGG. Nice and easy way to stay number 1
Cotto fight has yet to be confirmed yet, and the guy hasn't ducked a single person at 160, he's been out with an injury, his resume at 160 is still better than GGG :-\ so don't get what you're huffing and puffing about, Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr, and Murray back to back is a lot better than Ouma, Simon, Fuchigami, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, and Stevens
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Silkeyjoe
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ElTerribleMorales
sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses
Lol. Strange he decided to fight Cotto next rather then GGG. Nice and easy way to stay number 1
Cotto fight has yet to be confirmed yet, and the guy hasn't ducked a single person at 160, he's been out with an injury, his resume at 160 is still better than GGG :-\ so don't get what you're huffing and puffing about, Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr, and Murray back to back is a lot better than Ouma, Simon, Fuchigami, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, and Stevens
His manager came out and said he doesnt want GGG. Actions speak louder then words. Im a huge fan of Martinez but he looks past it. Can still beat most of the top guys but GGG flattens him.
Comparing opponents isnt much use since u are comparing guys from 4 years ago. Since 2011 he has fought Dziniruk, Barker, Macklin, Chavez and Murray. In my opinion Stevens beats all of them. (chavez maybe not). He also looked pretty poor against Barker, Macklin and Murray coming from behind to win by stoppage in 2 of them and getting a lucky decision against Murray. GGG on the other hand has been impressive with his wins.
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ElTerribleMorales
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Silkeyjoe
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ElTerribleMorales
sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses
Lol. Strange he decided to fight Cotto next rather then GGG. Nice and easy way to stay number 1
Cotto fight has yet to be confirmed yet, and the guy hasn't ducked a single person at 160, he's been out with an injury, his resume at 160 is still better than GGG :-\ so don't get what you're huffing and puffing about, Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr, and Murray back to back is a lot better than Ouma, Simon, Fuchigami, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, and Stevens
His manager came out and said he doesnt want GGG. Actions speak louder then words. Im a huge fan of Martinez but he looks past it. Can still beat most of the top guys but GGG flattens him.
Comparing opponents isnt much use since u are comparing guys from 4 years ago. Since 2011 he has fought Dziniruk, Barker, Macklin, Chavez and Murray. In my opinion Stevens beats all of them. (chavez maybe not). He also looked pretty poor against Barker, Macklin and Murray coming from behind to win by stoppage in 2 of them and getting a lucky decision against Murray. GGG on the other hand has been impressive with his wins.
against lesser opposition, cause IMO Martinez would have handled Rosado just as easy, you also forget to mention that Martinez is NOT a natural middleweight, GGG easily could be fighting at 168, and you're giving Stevens TOO much credit, this is the same guy who lost to Jesse Brinkley from The Contender in a somewhat one sided fight :-\ so wouldn't say he'd beat any of them with certainty
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If it weren't for Golovkin existing this would be a top pick.
