That was unexpected.. poor guy..
What now?
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That was unexpected.. poor guy..
What now?
That's a crock of shit, might make Mendez the weakest champion in boxing. The punch that ended him was in following up a combination and was in motion right as the bell rang, he was in bad trouble anyways. It doesn't even mention a rematch either:confused: Guess he has the better promotion, what a joke.
I agree.. im a mendez fan so my my judgment was clouded at first but upon second review, that KO was legit..Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Mendez is backed by mike tyson so he caught a lucky break..
Kind of shitty and ironic that when the powers that be finally stand up and decide to make change...right a 'perceived wrong', it happens to be one that was so obviously concluded and with an obvious end. Meanwhile there are a hundred plus fighters who were obviously shafted by random officials and judges shaking there heads. "Where's my text book 101 on micromanaging"???
Effin boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Barthelemy Promises a Vicious KO of Mendez in Rematch - Boxing News
Rematch should be coming soon
Good! That's the right thing to do. The referee lost control of that fight. When they rematch Barthelemy will KO Mendez again.
Good call. Even though Mendez was on his way to being ko'd... it was/is the right call.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Exactly. Of all the times you'd pray for a commission to do something, they pick this one to overrule completely. I don't see how a rematch will go much differently, it's got to happen now.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI agree.. im a mendez fan so my my judgment was clouded at first but upon second review, that KO was legit..Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Mendez is backed by mike tyson so he caught a lucky break..
That's right Tyson is a stand up guy, always followed the rules and never hit anyone late like that....wait a second....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTFhVA8YWfU
Spot on. Only in boxing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Do not know what the problem is, a foul was committed, the powers that be have taken the right steps to correct it.
I do not care what anyone says, they are doing the thing. Teddy Atlas was wrong the night of the fight and he is still wrong. Teddy can take the alignment of the stars and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
The rules are there to protect the fighters, every fight, all the time no matter what.
you are actually right... the ko was clearly after the bell... it was a clear of a bad decision as you can get... I think the cuban would still have easiley ko'd him later in the fight and that is what will happen in the rematch so whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
I'm with the sentiment but only if it was all so universal. Rules "on paper" are bent like a limber Vegas call girl in this sport. No contest often means :dontknow: :bag: much more than it actually means :rules: . Rances was in mid combination and a guy is trained to follow through. The rules are only as meaningful as those who enforce them..and THAT ref blew the show much more than that final. As well as the cow bell used to signal the 10 second mark that no one heard. Now this, this is a clear DQ...not a NC. If only his name was not Riddick Bowe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB0fwvtQJbs The live version of this was criminal. They used "NC" here to CYA and the line was often 'well, he was going to ko'd him anyway'. Remember Marlon Starling vs Tomas Molinares? Check it out as it was be similar. The thing that gets lost on that replay and scenario was that Starling was actually punching with Tomas..he led a right, Molinares landed right counter a mili second at the bell. It to was a NC but reversed by the commisioner weeks later. In hindsight had roles been reversed they would not have thought twice about it standing I believe. Running on here, in a round about way its a good topic as ideal rules and boxing are often like a divorcing couple who get stuck in some elevator on the way to the attorneys office 10 flights up :author:.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
I get what ur saying but if u watch the fight the punch that landed was before the bell rang completely. The whole thing was a farce. The ref was nowhere near the fights and the guy ringing the bell rang it like a church bell. Its suppose to be ding ding not ding..................ding.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqyou are actually right... the ko was clearly after the bell... it was a clear of a bad decision as you can get... I think the cuban would still have easiley ko'd him later in the fight and that is what will happen in the rematch so whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
However, having an organisation come in and overturn something like this and not overturn some of the other criminal things that happen in and ring and by judges at ringside is a bit daft to me.
The referee did a terrible job during this fight. The rules and the referee are there to protect the fighters. Every fighter, every fight, all the time no matter what.
Whether or not you think the fouled fighter is a piss poor champ or will be a piss poor champ has nothing to do with enforcing the rules.
I feel for the referee because he screwed up big time, in front of a big audience, but that's the way it goes.
Instead in looking at the facts, we jump on Tyson because he got away with a foul or fouls years ago and is now pushing for everyone concerned to do the right thing.
The rules are there to protect the money of the fans who bet on the fights plus the fighters--maybe a different way of looking at it will change some of your minds.