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Marquez should have retired after putting Manny to bed. I just cant see him being to ever mentally ergo physically get up for another fight like that again. He left everything right there on Dec 8th 2012 at an official time of 2:59 in the 6th round.
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Why waste our time with a damn 5th fight?
Pacquaio beats Bradley like he should, tho Bradley could run and play games and get another gift, but if Pac beats Bradley he needs to face Floyd.
Another Marquez fight will only diminish Pacquaio further and its just such a fuckin waste of time imo.
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I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
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I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
Now that marquez is willing to face the winner, I want bradley to win so that marquez can settle the unfinished bidness...
Bradley did not beat him.. he barely scraped off a gift..
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I wish Marquez would have walked on after Manny. Watching him play inside pocket counter slugger was frustrating with Bradley. Tim will not, was not, and will never be the boxing mind that is Marquez. That was close. Knowing when to leave is one thing, but even tougher for a guy like Marquez who was always a top tier technician who was finally discovered later in his game and maxed his due reward. Zero interest in Manny 5, and if Bradley tops Pac he sure as shit won't be revisiting Marquez. I hate to feeling of thinking Marquez on the brink of 'scalp' for up & comers. Not saying he is fully toast but why walk the razors edge with little to prove at all.
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman..
Whatever marquez does from here on out wont effect his legacy..
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman.
No.
One of the best, but not the Greatest fighter from Mexico.
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman.
No.
One of the best, but not the Greatest fighter from Mexico.
Finito probably has the better technique but that's about it.
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman.
No.
One of the best, but not the Greatest fighter from Mexico.
Finito probably has the better technique but that's about it.
Eric Morales beat Manny more convincingly.
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman.
No.
One of the best, but not the Greatest fighter from Mexico.
Finito probably has the better technique but that's about it.
Eric Morales beat Manny more convincingly.
I wont disagree with that but it's debatable.. We can say Morales' style was better suited for pacman..
Morales lost to barrera and people thought he was over the hill but he came back to shock pacman so u know wsup with this ABC logic and that same barrera looked like he didnt even belong in the same ring with pac few years prior!
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Marquez has secured his spot as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time when he knocked out Pacman.
No.
One of the best, but not the Greatest fighter from Mexico.
Finito probably has the better technique but that's about it.
Ahhkemm minimum weight...by a long shot!
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I was just laughing about how silly the Pac fans that claimed Marquez was scared of Pac must feel. But then I thought if you don't think you're preposterous for claiming a guy that has chased down 4 fights is scared of a 5th there is nothing on earth that can make you understand how absurd you are.
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Why waste our time with a damn 5th fight?
Pacquaio beats Bradley like he should, tho Bradley could run and play games and get another gift, but if Pac beats Bradley he needs to face Floyd.
Another Marquez fight will only diminish Pacquaio further and its just such a fuckin waste of time imo.
I'd fight JMM after I fight Floyd.
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I was just laughing about how silly the Pac fans that claimed Marquez was scared of Pac must feel. But then I thought if you don't think you're preposterous for claiming a guy that has chased down 4 fights is scared of a 5th there is nothing on earth that can make you understand how absurd you are.
Marquez is not scared he is trying to earn the most amount of money but I could do beleive he would not mind deliberately pricing himself out of the fight as he has his legacy to be undermined if he lost.
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Marquez at 40 is still looking great, but I would hate to see him get messed up, cause eventually a younger dude will catch him and he will just keep getting up, to his own detriment.
I hope he doesnt think he has something left to prove, I want him of all fighters to be smart with his time and cash and do life easy and invest clever.
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I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
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I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
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I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
Then you absolutely do not believe in rematches? With your stance there would have been no 2nd, 3rd or 4th JMM vs Pac fight. A 5th fight is not necessary but a rematch with Bradley is not out of the question. Bradley did not KO JMM or physically damage him. In addition JMM is a beast in rematches.
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
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Swarming flies won't give a bother... ' lower than shit!
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beenKOed
I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
Then you absolutely do not believe in rematches? With your stance there would have been no 2nd, 3rd or 4th JMM vs Pac fight. A 5th fight is not necessary but a rematch with Bradley is not out of the question. Bradley did not KO JMM or physically damage him. In addition JMM is a beast in rematches.Reference
JMM is a beast the 4th time around four sure. Honestly, for me a 5th fight holds little interest.
I don't know if Bradley would be interested in JMM, if he wins he'll have bigger fish to fry, if he loses, maybe.
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beenKOed
I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
Then you absolutely do not believe in rematches? With your stance there would have been no 2nd, 3rd or 4th JMM vs Pac fight. A 5th fight is not necessary but a rematch with Bradley is not out of the question. Bradley did not KO JMM or physically damage him. In addition JMM is a beast in rematches.Reference
JMM is a beast the 4th time around four sure. Honestly, for me a 5th fight holds little interest.
I don't know if Bradley would be interested in JMM, if he wins he'll have bigger fish to fry, if he loses, maybe.
Bradley has no where to go if he wins, Top Rank will make him have rematch with Marquez, then Prov, then he will waste his career away.
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The Marquez Pacquiao stuff is pointless now. It was a good saga but draw a line under it, move on. I mean at what point does it stop?
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I don't think its pointless. Marquez and Vazquez had 5 good fights also. But its true that it has to stop at some point.
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
Wrong :p I am not a Pac fan at all. I actually think Marquez won 2 of the first 3 fights if not all three. Your also wrong about history! Look at how Pep is remember over Sandler :p So if Marquez quits his bitching and takes a fifth fight and gets KTFO what happens then :confused: Marquez has been avoiding Pac because he knows that last fight could have gone either way :-X they are both great fighters and I think they make the most money against each other at this stage :cool: it was Marquez crying for a return with Bradley and who did he choose :lickish:
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I think JMM won all of the fights but now that he has got the official victory he does not want to lose. If he is tempted back in the ring against Manny it will be for an enormous amount of money.
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beenKOed
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Addicted to_boxing
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beenKOed
I don't have anything against Marquez, but if Bradley wins he's already beaten Marquez. If Manny wins, a 5th fight with Marquez holds little interest.
Then you absolutely do not believe in rematches? With your stance there would have been no 2nd, 3rd or 4th JMM vs Pac fight. A 5th fight is not necessary but a rematch with Bradley is not out of the question. Bradley did not KO JMM or physically damage him. In addition JMM is a beast in rematches.Reference
JMM is a beast the 4th time around four sure. Honestly, for me a 5th fight holds little interest.
I don't know if Bradley would be interested in JMM, if he wins he'll have bigger fish to fry, if he loses, maybe.
Bradley has no where to go if he wins, Top Rank will make him have rematch with Marquez, then Prov, then he will waste his career away.
There is definitely a dark side to you, Sir.
You need an attitude adjustment. I want you to find the Disney Classic Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah-Zip-A-Dee-A on You Tube, and listen it, once, every morning and evening for 4 days.
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Last year HBO reported Marquez was looking for twenty million for a fifth fight with Manny. As time goes by I don't know if that number goes up or down. At one point Marquez said he would never fight Manny again as he wanted to cherish the memories of the KO and felt he brought pride to Mexico. I don't blame him for changing his tune for the possibility of cash like that.
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Marquez should have retired after the victory but fighters seldom go out on a high note. He should take the money and retire after the fight win, lose or draw. It is an intriguing fight.
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Addicted to_boxing
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
Wrong :p I am not a Pac fan at all. I actually think Marquez won 2 of the first 3 fights if not all three. Your also wrong about history! Look at how Pep is remember over Sandler :p So if Marquez quits his bitching and takes a fifth fight and gets KTFO what happens then :confused: Marquez has been avoiding Pac because he knows that last fight could have gone either way :-X they are both great fighters and I think they make the most money against each other at this stage :cool: it was Marquez crying for a return with Bradley and who did he choose :lickish:
You have a problem with paying attention to detail and contradicting yourself. I never questioned past history I said "today" that belts and titles mean nothing and you pull shit out of the archieves. If you feel JMM won 2 of the 3 first fights then he KTFO out of Pac in the 4th why would JMM even need to entertain a fifth fight using your very words? The usage of the words "could have gone" is best suited for the rolling of dice. What is factual is that Pac got KTFO badly in historical fashion. The balance of what could have happened if Pac had not been KTFO is a thing of trolls and unicorns. Unless you have some sort of time machine or a subscription to FAIRY TV your stance is just bullshit rhetoric, a hard time digesting facts, lack of wisdom or all of the above. Then you go on to mention how they make the most $$ vs each other the only statement in your post that makes sense. JMM has never been about fighting for the best possible purse as displayed vs John & Mayweather. The sweet KO finish of Pac is priceless and how many fighters would love to a story to tell like this 20 years down the road. Bitching by JMM ??? Where in the rafters of your tiny brain does KTFO of an opponent then not offering a 5th fight come across as bitching (you short circuited)? JMM only wants a Bradley rematch as his strategy was off and we all know how he performs in rematches. Saying he will consider Pac is just shrewd marketing . The only reason he has to fight Pac is $$$. It would have to be very lucrative and inline with what Pac will earn. For JMM to get a purse split similar to previous bouts with Pac would be disrespectful. JMM has earned the right to an even split.
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Addicted to_boxing
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
Wrong :p I am not a Pac fan at all. I actually think Marquez won 2 of the first 3 fights if not all three. Your also wrong about history! Look at how Pep is remember over Sandler :p So if Marquez quits his bitching and takes a fifth fight and gets KTFO what happens then :confused: Marquez has been avoiding Pac because he knows that last fight could have gone either way :-X they are both great fighters and I think they make the most money against each other at this stage :cool: it was Marquez crying for a return with Bradley and who did he choose :lickish:
You have a problem with paying attention to detail and contradicting yourself. I never questioned past history I said "today" that belts and titles mean nothing and you pull shit out of the archieves. If you feel JMM won 2 of the 3 first fights then he KTFO out of Pac in the 4th why would JMM even need to entertain a fifth fight using your very words? The usage of the words "could have gone" is best suited for the rolling of dice. What is factual is that Pac got KTFO badly in historical fashion. The balance of what could have happened if Pac had not been KTFO is a thing of trolls and unicorns. Unless you have some sort of time machine or a subscription to FAIRY TV your stance is just bullshit rhetoric, a hard time digesting facts, lack of wisdom or all of the above. Then you go on to mention how they make the most $$ vs each other the only statement in your post that makes sense. JMM has never been about fighting for the best possible purse as displayed vs John & Mayweather. The sweet KO finish of Pac is priceless and how many fighters would love to a story to tell like this 20 years down the road. Bitching by JMM ??? Where in the rafters of your tiny brain does KTFO of an opponent then not offering a 5th fight come across as bitching (you short circuited)? JMM only wants a Bradley rematch as his strategy was off and we all know how he performs in rematches. Saying he will consider Pac is just shrewd marketing . The only reason he has to fight Pac is $$$. It would have to be very lucrative and inline with what Pac will earn. For JMM to get a purse split similar to previous bouts with Pac would be disrespectful. JMM has earned the right to an even split.
Marquez said only wanted a Bradley rematch. Bradley beat him decisively and didn't need the rematch. Just like you imply JMM didn't need Pac after the KO victory. You think Pac needs JMM I feel the opposite. Bradley chose Pac because of the $$$, Marquez is trying to covert his KO victory but in doing so has left himself out in the cold. Pac could easily fight a rubber match with Bradley if the fight is great or close, Provodnikov or even leave Aram to face Mayweather. Marquez' bitching was about only wanting the Bradley return, how quickly he changed his tune :p Pac gave Marquez return fights and a shot at redemption, it would be nice to see Marquez do the same, plus they would make good money :cool: I never said you questioned history I said it tells it different Pac is 2-1-1 over Marquez fact ;D I'd like to see JMM make an even split too, unfortunately now he has to settle for what he make against... Alvarado :confused:
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Addicted to_boxing
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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La Cucaracha
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Addicted to_boxing
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Lineal
I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
Wrong :p I am not a Pac fan at all. I actually think Marquez won 2 of the first 3 fights if not all three. Your also wrong about history! Look at how Pep is remember over Sandler :p So if Marquez quits his bitching and takes a fifth fight and gets KTFO what happens then :confused: Marquez has been avoiding Pac because he knows that last fight could have gone either way :-X they are both great fighters and I think they make the most money against each other at this stage :cool: it was Marquez crying for a return with Bradley and who did he choose :lickish:
You have a problem with paying attention to detail and contradicting yourself. I never questioned past history I said "today" that belts and titles mean nothing and you pull shit out of the archieves. If you feel JMM won 2 of the 3 first fights then he KTFO out of Pac in the 4th why would JMM even need to entertain a fifth fight using your very words? The usage of the words "could have gone" is best suited for the rolling of dice. What is factual is that Pac got KTFO badly in historical fashion. The balance of what could have happened if Pac had not been KTFO is a thing of trolls and unicorns. Unless you have some sort of time machine or a subscription to FAIRY TV your stance is just bullshit rhetoric, a hard time digesting facts, lack of wisdom or all of the above. Then you go on to mention how they make the most $$ vs each other the only statement in your post that makes sense. JMM has never been about fighting for the best possible purse as displayed vs John & Mayweather. The sweet KO finish of Pac is priceless and how many fighters would love to a story to tell like this 20 years down the road. Bitching by JMM ??? Where in the rafters of your tiny brain does KTFO of an opponent then not offering a 5th fight come across as bitching (you short circuited)? JMM only wants a Bradley rematch as his strategy was off and we all know how he performs in rematches. Saying he will consider Pac is just shrewd marketing . The only reason he has to fight Pac is $$$. It would have to be very lucrative and inline with what Pac will earn. For JMM to get a purse split similar to previous bouts with Pac would be disrespectful. JMM has earned the right to an even split.
Marquez said only wanted a Bradley rematch. Bradley beat him decisively and didn't need the rematch. Just like you imply JMM didn't need Pac after the KO victory. You think Pac needs JMM I feel the opposite. Bradley chose Pac because of the $$$, Marquez is trying to covert his KO victory but in doing so has left himself out in the cold. Pac could easily fight a rubber match with Bradley if the fight is great or close, Provodnikov or even leave Aram to face Mayweather. Marquez' bitching was about only wanting the Bradley return, how quickly he changed his tune :p Pac gave Marquez return fights and a shot at redemption, it would be nice to see Marquez do the same, plus they would make good money :cool: I never said you questioned history I said it tells it different Pac is 2-1-1 over Marquez fact ;D I'd like to see JMM make an even split too, unfortunately now he has to settle for what he make against... Alvarado :confused:
Both are kinda screwed as all the guys you mentioned are Arum fighters. JMM does not need to bring the total the total to a split. There was no controversery as in the previous fights. No way in hell he fights Pac again due to his age unless it is an close to an even split in the purse. JMM wants Bradley again. Neither wants any part of Prov. Now you laugh that he has to settle for Alvarado. I know it is as silly as as Pac settling for Rios a similar bum. The biggest loser is Prov who is going to fight this beast? I am certain he will KO Pac. Same trainer as Pac so this fight will "not" happen either . The Rios fight was a safe match vs a slow untalented hand m cherry picked light hitting fighter. I assume you think Pac has recovered from his KO by whooping a mid level bum like Rios. JMM is just marketing his future. If Bradley exposes that Pac did lose some from the KO fight then I see JMM possibly fighting Pac. If Bradley beats Pac then Pac fans can apologize to JMM and his fans for bitching that JMM beat Pac in previous fights. Same ol shit.
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Re: Marquez changes his mind.. he's willing to face the winner of Pac-Bradley
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I hope if Pacman wins he tells Marquez to f-ck-off
?????? Then you hope Pacman fucks himself? What a moronic response !!! Every Pactard would love to see Pac gain redemption. If he does not fight JMM then he lives the rest of his life knowing JMM fucked him up really good . Throw all those close decisions out the window they do not mean shit!!
History tells it different 3-1 Pac. Marquez was offered a fifth fight but wanted to hold out. Pac don't need him and it seems no one else does either :p
History .... You are quite the comedian. Boxing and history, belts, titles , organizations no longer are related . It is now a what have you done for me lately and social media business . Go on do a Google search and see what little you will find on the first three fights because they became irrelevant with the brutal JMM KO. It is obvious you are Pac fan. A win against Rios is less of an achievement than a decision loss to Bradley . Even a win against the light hitting Bradley will not earn him a fight vs Money.
Pac needs Mayweather and JMM. In order to get either one of them he needs Bradley the most in Arums world order. A win against Bradley will set the record straight but will not earn him JMM or Mayweather in the real world. JMM will never repeat the explosive win and can / will live with that highlight. Mayweather will not fight Pac and line Arums pockets. So the only one that has needs is Pac my friend thanks to his alignment to Arum until death due them part. Pac future is fighting and over hyping has beens just as his career started it will end so says Arum the master of puppet Pac.
Wrong :p I am not a Pac fan at all. I actually think Marquez won 2 of the first 3 fights if not all three. Your also wrong about history! Look at how Pep is remember over Sandler :p So if Marquez quits his bitching and takes a fifth fight and gets KTFO what happens then :confused: Marquez has been avoiding Pac because he knows that last fight could have gone either way :-X they are both great fighters and I think they make the most money against each other at this stage :cool: it was Marquez crying for a return with Bradley and who did he choose :lickish:
You have a problem with paying attention to detail and contradicting yourself. I never questioned past history I said "today" that belts and titles mean nothing and you pull shit out of the archieves. If you feel JMM won 2 of the 3 first fights then he KTFO out of Pac in the 4th why would JMM even need to entertain a fifth fight using your very words? The usage of the words "could have gone" is best suited for the rolling of dice. What is factual is that Pac got KTFO badly in historical fashion. The balance of what could have happened if Pac had not been KTFO is a thing of trolls and unicorns. Unless you have some sort of time machine or a subscription to FAIRY TV your stance is just bullshit rhetoric, a hard time digesting facts, lack of wisdom or all of the above. Then you go on to mention how they make the most $$ vs each other the only statement in your post that makes sense. JMM has never been about fighting for the best possible purse as displayed vs John & Mayweather. The sweet KO finish of Pac is priceless and how many fighters would love to a story to tell like this 20 years down the road. Bitching by JMM ??? Where in the rafters of your tiny brain does KTFO of an opponent then not offering a 5th fight come across as bitching (you short circuited)? JMM only wants a Bradley rematch as his strategy was off and we all know how he performs in rematches. Saying he will consider Pac is just shrewd marketing . The only reason he has to fight Pac is $$$. It would have to be very lucrative and inline with what Pac will earn. For JMM to get a purse split similar to previous bouts with Pac would be disrespectful. JMM has earned the right to an even split.
Marquez said only wanted a Bradley rematch. Bradley beat him decisively and didn't need the rematch. Just like you imply JMM didn't need Pac after the KO victory. You think Pac needs JMM I feel the opposite. Bradley chose Pac because of the $$$, Marquez is trying to covert his KO victory but in doing so has left himself out in the cold. Pac could easily fight a rubber match with Bradley if the fight is great or close, Provodnikov or even leave Aram to face Mayweather. Marquez' bitching was about only wanting the Bradley return, how quickly he changed his tune :p Pac gave Marquez return fights and a shot at redemption, it would be nice to see Marquez do the same, plus they would make good money :cool: I never said you questioned history I said it tells it different Pac is 2-1-1 over Marquez fact ;D I'd like to see JMM make an even split too, unfortunately now he has to settle for what he make against... Alvarado :confused:
Both are kinda screwed as all the guys you mentioned are Arum fighters. JMM does not need to bring the total the total to a split. There was no controversery as in the previous fights. No way in hell he fights Pac again due to his age unless it is an close to an even split in the purse. JMM wants Bradley again. Neither wants any part of Prov. Now you laugh that he has to settle for Alvarado. I know it is as silly as as Pac settling for Rios a similar bum. The biggest loser is Prov who is going to fight this beast? I am certain he will KO Pac. Same trainer as Pac so this fight will "not" happen either . The Rios fight was a safe match vs a slow untalented hand m cherry picked light hitting fighter. I assume you think Pac has recovered from his KO by whooping a mid level bum like Rios. JMM is just marketing his future. If Bradley exposes that Pac did lose some from the KO fight then I see JMM possibly fighting Pac. If Bradley beats Pac then Pac fans can apologize to JMM and his fans for bitching that JMM beat Pac in previous fights. Same ol shit.
I hear ya. Rios was a sh-t fight but like you said Pac did get KTFO so need a little confidence booster ;) Marquez chose to fight Bradley, fair enough he was still undefeated and had looked vulnerable ;) thing is how much did he make against Bradley vs what he would have made against Pac in a 5th fight? Everyone knows Pac is where the money is outside of Mayweather :( all I'm saying is Pac can probably live with himself if he never fights JMM again. He has a 2-1-1 record over him no matter which way we see those fights. If he beats Bradley decisively, then he has essentially defeated the man who defeated the man who defeated the man (bare in mind I'm not including Floyd here). If a Provodnikov fight does some how come together I know Roach is going to stick with Pac ;D Marquez is one of my favorite fighters but it seemed to me that once he got what he wanted ( a win over Pac) he didn't want to play anymore, sure the victory was definitive but a 5th would have made both great money and their style just mesh for excellent fights ;D everyone wins :D and JMM had the opportunity to put an exclamation point on the series
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Re: Marquez changes his mind.. he's willing to face the winner of Pac-Bradley
I think the JMM ko of Pac was a carefully crafted fluke, courtesy of Ariza.
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Re: Marquez changes his mind.. he's willing to face the winner of Pac-Bradley
I don't mean to get on Marquez' case, but he's looking at fight Alvarado :confused: not the guy that beat him Provo :mad: and saying he will have to think about a fight with Pac if he beats Bradley :confused: seems like he scored a goal then wants to take his ball home with him and play no more :eek:
