What were the real inspiration for the films?
Who is Rocky?
Apollo Creed
Clubber Lang
Ivan Drago
Polly
Ms Rocky
Mickey
Mase Dixon
The fights?
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What were the real inspiration for the films?
Who is Rocky?
Apollo Creed
Clubber Lang
Ivan Drago
Polly
Ms Rocky
Mickey
Mase Dixon
The fights?
I know Rocky was Chuck Wepner and Apollo was Ali. I don't know who else was based on real fighters.
Was wepner a southpaw?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I thought it was Chuvalo
They did a story on Chuck called The Real Rocky. Stallone saw the Wepner/Ali fight and was inspired to write about a huge underdog who puts up a valiant effort against a seemingly unbeatable champ. Wepner enjoyed all the attention it gave him, being the "real Rocky", but after awhile got angry that he wasn't being compensated and sued (which Stallone and him settled out of court apparently.)
What a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Yeah I agree, it's not like Stallone took his story. He was just inspired by the fight. I don't know what right Wepner would have to the Rocky story.
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Originally Posted by Master
My take would be:
Rocky = Wepner
Apollo Creed = Ali
Clubber Lang = Liston
Ivan Drago = American fears
Polly = Floyd Mayweather Snr
Mickey = Ray Arcel
Mase Dixon = Greg Page
I thought Mase Dixon was a representation of modern heavyweights. Not nearly as good as heavyweights of the past and one coming back after their retirements could push them in the prime
THat was my reading of it, can't remember where but Wepner certainly made the national press.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I kind of see Mickey as Gil Clancy.
Clubber was like George Foreman.
Yeah, it was mainly Chuck Wepner. An unknown Stallone saw a real underdog being given a shot at the The Greatest Prize in All Sports, as the World Heavyweight Title used to be known. Wepner's big moment was knocking down the Champ, Ali. It was a balance shot, Ali wasn't hurt one bit... but still, Wepner threw the shot and Ali went down from it, so it counts!
Smokin' Joe Frazier had a lot to do with the Rocky character too.
Joe was from the south, but moved to Philadelphia as a teenager.
Not a south paw like Rocky, but Joe's punch was his Philadelphia left hook.
Rocky had the right hook.
Joe worked at a slaughterhouse, and would punch the sides of beef.
Joe also jogged the steps at the Philadelphia museum.
Broner is clearly named after and inspired by Rocky's wife Adrian, which would have to make Mayweather the closest thing going to Balboa, everything else aside.
Holy crapola!
Dude has a pic of Marciano right in his crappy apartment.
There's an homage in name and being Italian there as well.
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Tommy Gunn...Gerry Cooney ???
Or Vince Neil
I think it was Chuck Wepner's wife said, "You don't enter a jalopy in the Indy 500."
That was her thoughts on the big fight. ;)
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
What does Motley Crue's half Mexican and now portly frontman have to do with all of this? lol
The hair ;D And Vince wore less mascara ;DQuote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
What does Motley Crue's half Mexican and now portly frontman have to do with all of this? lol
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Originally Posted by bradlee180
Chuck also credited her with the punch line, in the 'sleeping with the champ' anecdote.
I see clear analogs between Frazier and Rocky and Apollo and Ali...
Rocky is a punch bag who can barely even box and Apollo is too useless to keep him away.
LOL
The story is that Chuck said tonight you will be sleeping with the heavyweight champion of the world and when he lost she said "Do I go to his place or is he coming here?" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidQuote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Chuck also credited her with the punch line, in the 'sleeping with the champ' anecdote.
Wepner
told his wife that she'd be sleeping with the Heavyweight Champion of the World the night after the fight. When he arrived back at his room, all swollen and beaten up, she greeted him with,
"So, when does Muhammad get here, then?"
True story
oops, sorry Master ...... Great minds think alike
Actually I mentioned it first, but thought it a bit cliché to go into detail! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by X
The story is that Chuck said tonight you will be sleeping with the heavyweight champion of the world and when he lost she said "Do I go to his place or is he coming here?" :)[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
From all the quotes attributed to his wife, she sounds like a smart cookie. Wonder what the attraction was to a dopey fat Irishman fighter?
You were wrong. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidActually I mentioned it first, but thought it a bit cliché to go into detail! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by X
You told the story better than me. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by X
Who was this guy supposed to be?
Don King without the hair.
Just accept Rocky for what it is
But forget Rocky V
Rocky 5 was probably the best episode really. It was the most realistic by FAR and had plenty of action and feeling in it.
4 was the most dramatic and epic of course.
Other than that 1 and 3 were good too.
On the down slide, Rocky 2 was an absolute joke, so ridiculous, so boring with perhaps the worst montage and actual fight of the entire series, could possibly have ended the whole franchise there were it not for the high quality and excitement by comparison of Rocky 3.
As for Rocky Balboa, disgusting and a low point for modern movies in general that Sylvester actually made such a drip movie about a 60 year old fighter that challenges the HW champ of the world, almost successfully!
There's almost like some code among nostalgists that the shitter the Rocky movie, the better it is to be held in esteem. Quite similarly to nostalgists views of boxers too ;)
if that's a serious point you have issues and need to sortQuote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Max Power is serious which is why I was hoping he would not come back. Why did you come back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOif that's a serious point you have issues and need to sortQuote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
come back from where ?
I was talking about that part Max power. :rolleyes:Quote:
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you're a bellendQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI was talking about that part Max power. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Do not worry I still hate you the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOyou're a bellendQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI was talking about that part Max power. :rolleyes:Quote:
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