Do you choose your boxing style??
Im a new boxer, training in Toronto...studying boxing and boxing history at the same time...just curious you hear about the different boxing styles, swarmer, boxer, slugger..Do you choose which style you become? Does your trainer choose? Does it just happen naturally? Can you consciously choose, focus and train to become a certain style because you find it appealing?
If im a george foreman frame, can I train to fight like Tyson? Also I hear swarmers tend to have shorter careers than the proper boxers, is this true?
Thanks :)
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supernova12034
Im a new boxer, training in Toronto...studying boxing and boxing history at the same time...just curious you hear about the different boxing styles, swarmer, boxer, slugger..Do you choose which style you become? Does your trainer choose? Does it just happen naturally? Can you consciously choose, focus and train to become a certain style because you find it appealing?
If im a george foreman frame, can I train to fight like Tyson? Also I hear swarmers tend to have shorter careers than the proper boxers, is this true?
Thanks :)
A decent trainer will teach you the basics. Dont try and copy a style, you will see what works for yourself. The aim is to hit and not get hit, not to impersanate a fighter and get caught.
Look at Broner. Trying to copy a style that should make him hard to hit but he was the one who took a beating against Maidana and not Khan;)
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It all depends on your size first. Then it's your mentality. I'm a 6 footer- I won't ever be fighting tall in the HW division- my real division.
I never carried much of a wollop, so I had to do the next best thing- I had to maul my way to points or stoppages.
Basically, my fight plan was to get in close, push the opponents to the ropes, and maul and wear him down with resounding punches- not bone crunching punches, but resounding punches.
That was me.
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supernova12034
Im a new boxer, training in Toronto...studying boxing and boxing history at the same time...just curious you hear about the different boxing styles, swarmer, boxer, slugger..Do you choose which style you become? Does your trainer choose? Does it just happen naturally? Can you consciously choose, focus and train to become a certain style because you find it appealing?
If im a george foreman frame, can I train to fight like Tyson? Also I hear swarmers tend to have shorter careers than the proper boxers, is this true?
Thanks :)
You can pick whatever style you want, but that doesn't mean you'll be good with it.
If you have long arms, use distance, if you have short arms maybe get inside.
If you're quick and have a solid chin, go to war.
Unfortunately your natural abilities with probably pick your style for you. But everyone is different.
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Your style will come out naturally and be refined by your trainer and you will adapt it against your opponent.
Boxers have it easier than sluggers.
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I think subconsciously we pick our own styles. Personality traits and temperment play a big part imo. Aggression and such.
Of course physical traits matter as well. But if a tall slow dude is naturally a pressure type fighter then that's what he his. Maybe he can become efficient at a different style but when he can he will swarm. And when shit hits the fan he will do whats natural to him.
Swarmers definitely have shorter careers for several reasons. For one, a swarmer usually need high aggression and high conditioning levels. These wear down when a fighter hits around 30.
The main reason tho is the wars the have. There style is exciting meaning a war a lot of times. These kind of fights take it out of a fighter. Not even so much physically but mentally.
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You fight in the manner you feel most comfortable with and that you find most effective. If you are a Foreman size 6'3 or taller sure you can fight like Tyson, there's no law against it, you could fight like Willie Pep if you like.
BUT....
Take a look at Mike Tyson's physique, remember what made him a dominant fighter, and you'll see that his style was perfect for his body type. You can say the same about Tommy Hearns and his style (which was totally different of course).
There have been taller fighters who have used the Tyson style to some success: Floyd Patterson 6'0, Buster Mathis 6'3, Buster Mathis Jr. 6'3. The deal with Buster & Buster Jr is that they had relatively short arms which called for them to fight in that compact style. I think if God has blessed you with decent height and a good reach you need to make the best use of it...no use in giving your opponent so many chances to hit you by giving up your height and reach, it's not the smartest play to do that, but in the end you do what feels right to you and what works.
I think pressure fighters age out quickly because they have a style which burns off a LOT of energy, they provide their opponents loads of opportunities to hit them, and you will no doubt eventually run into #1 A guy who knows how to control distance with the jab (see Tyson-Douglas, Ali-Patterson, Tyson-Lewis) and #2 A guy who is a bigger stronger bully than you (Liston-Patterson, Holyfield-Tyson)...but every fighter is different, if you can add a wrinkle to that style and nullify the advantages of those kinds of fighters then you'll go far.
I hope you make it work man, keep us updated!
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I'm just into boxing on a recreational and hobby level. But even I noticed that somehow I naturally gravitated to often using counter punching. I don't recall ever making a conscious decision to use that style, but it just felt right for some reason. I'm able to change from that when I think about it but drift right back when I just go with the flow.
So I think that eventually your style comes naturally.
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El Kabong
You fight in the manner you feel most comfortable with and that you find most effective. If you are a Foreman size 6'3 or taller sure you can fight like Tyson, there's no law against it, you could fight like Willie Pep if you like.
BUT....
Take a look at Mike Tyson's physique, remember what made him a dominant fighter, and you'll see that his style was perfect for his body type. You can say the same about Tommy Hearns and his style (which was totally different of course).
There have been taller fighters who have used the Tyson style to some success: Floyd Patterson 6'0, Buster Mathis 6'3, Buster Mathis Jr. 6'3. The deal with Buster & Buster Jr is that they had relatively short arms which called for them to fight in that compact style. I think if God has blessed you with decent height and a good reach you need to make the best use of it...no use in giving your opponent so many chances to hit you by giving up your height and reach, it's not the smartest play to do that, but in the end you do what feels right to you and what works.
I think pressure fighters age out quickly because they have a style which burns off a LOT of energy, they provide their opponents loads of opportunities to hit them, and you will no doubt eventually run into #1 A guy who knows how to control distance with the jab (see Tyson-Douglas, Ali-Patterson, Tyson-Lewis) and #2 A guy who is a bigger stronger bully than you (Liston-Patterson, Holyfield-Tyson)...but every fighter is different, if you can add a wrinkle to that style and nullify the advantages of those kinds of fighters then you'll go far.
I hope you make it work man, keep us updated!
Hm..i watched the tyson-lennox fight i thought lennox used the clinch and his right hand to kept tyson at bay? At the very start you see tyson trying to get on the inside with his usual stuff, but then gets hit with a huge uppetcut, and throughout the rest of the fight i just saw lennox holding his right back, at the ready to throw another one just incase tyson got a little brave. Hmm...have to watch it again to watch lennoxs' jab.
Also which fight are you talking about? ali-patterson 1 or 2??
And if ali was so good at keeping the distance with patterson, what happened in the fight with fraizer?
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Tyson was a bully so Lewis had to show him from the start that he had a big right hand and that Tyson was going to be eating that when he attempted to get inside. Lennox's jab was a probing one, looking for openings for the right hand, it was a measuring stick. Lewis was great at using his size, Manny Steward made sure of that. Having a 250+ pound fighter draped on your back will sap your energy and strength.
As for Ali-Patterson I mean both of them, Ali just had his way with Floyd in both fights. Frazier was a different animal because he was bigger and stronger and more powerful. The left hook of Joe Frazier was just an astounding power punch to the body or to the head. Patterson had fast hands but let's not forget he was a smaller guy, having previously fought at 175. Foreman didn't have the same success of Frazier because Frazier paced himself, start slow, then "smoke" for the rest of the fight, constant pressure.
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supernova12034
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El Kabong
You fight in the manner you feel most comfortable with and that you find most effective. If you are a Foreman size 6'3 or taller sure you can fight like Tyson, there's no law against it, you could fight like Willie Pep if you like.
BUT....
Take a look at Mike Tyson's physique, remember what made him a dominant fighter, and you'll see that his style was perfect for his body type. You can say the same about Tommy Hearns and his style (which was totally different of course).
There have been taller fighters who have used the Tyson style to some success: Floyd Patterson 6'0, Buster Mathis 6'3, Buster Mathis Jr. 6'3. The deal with Buster & Buster Jr is that they had relatively short arms which called for them to fight in that compact style. I think if God has blessed you with decent height and a good reach you need to make the best use of it...no use in giving your opponent so many chances to hit you by giving up your height and reach, it's not the smartest play to do that, but in the end you do what feels right to you and what works.
I think pressure fighters age out quickly because they have a style which burns off a LOT of energy, they provide their opponents loads of opportunities to hit them, and you will no doubt eventually run into #1 A guy who knows how to control distance with the jab (see Tyson-Douglas, Ali-Patterson, Tyson-Lewis) and #2 A guy who is a bigger stronger bully than you (Liston-Patterson, Holyfield-Tyson)...but every fighter is different, if you can add a wrinkle to that style and nullify the advantages of those kinds of fighters then you'll go far.
I hope you make it work man, keep us updated!
Hm..i watched the tyson-lennox fight i thought lennox used the clinch and his right hand to kept tyson at bay? At the very start you see tyson trying to get on the inside with his usual stuff, but then gets hit with a huge uppetcut, and throughout the rest of the fight i just saw lennox holding his right back, at the ready to throw another one just incase tyson got a little brave. Hmm...have to watch it again to watch lennoxs' jab.
Also which fight are you talking about? ali-patterson 1 or 2??
And if ali was so good at keeping the distance with patterson, what happened in the fight with fraizer?
For one Patterson was older. Besides that totally different styles. Both pressure fighters yes but Frazier imo had more power was faster and even had better movement.
Not to mention Ali lost just enough conditioning (notice I didn't say speed because he still had the speed) after his lay off for Frazier to keep up with him. Ali pre-lay off dances circles around Frazier.
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The guy that trains you will have a lot of influence on your style, at least early on. You don't know anything or how (or what) to think about things, so you'll absorb his thoughts and ideas and your style will express them.
If you pursue the activity long enough, as you gain experience you will develope your own way of thinking and your style will change. I think that your thought process and your mentality play at least as big a role in the style you end up using as does your physicality.
If you take Patterson, for example, he fought out of the peek-a-boo style until Johannsson dropped a right hand on him. So he turned himself more sideways to see the right hand coming and changed his style
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Tyson wasn't a bully... Tyson was a tiger. Bullies use their body and their weight to push people around... Tyson wasn't a bully in that sense, he just hit you and hit you often and HARD!
People always try to find ways to diminish Tyson's ability- reduce him to a cheater, a mere bully/thug, or anything that took away from his great boxing skill and technique- and, more importantly, his boxing intellect and his power AND speed.
Tyson was more than a bully...
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Woah there, I'm not saying Tyson wasn't skilled, I'm not saying that at all! Tyson was extremely talented hand speed, power in both hands, ability to cut off the ring, footwork, head movement...he had all the tools a champion needs and then some.
When I say, "Tyson was a bully" that is the manner in which he imposed his skill set on another fighter. Don't give them space, don't give them room, stay on top of them, be rough on the inside, and don't back down. He would physically impose himself on his opponent...he would bully them around the ring. George Foreman did the same thing as did Sonny Liston.
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Whatever style you have, dont do an andre berto and try the mayweather style during a fight and fail completely!
lmao Wasn't that against Guerrero?
Has to be the biggest philly fail of all time.
