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Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
Every excuse Floyd ever used to duck the man!! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkigEfHmzh0
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Get over it matey.
Pac fights who hes told..he is a puppet and has no choice with the worse contract in boxing.
Marquez destroyed pac and bradley will beat him again in april.
Floyd is the best and will not fill arums pockets anymore.
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This compilation proves to me that Mayweather is the man and Pacquioa is a sad broke fucker.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
He is a punk. Pacman got the nigga all shook.
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This notion about Pac Man fighting who he is told to fight, I don't think that excludes Mayweather. Roach wants Floyd, Pac wants Floyd, any promoter with half a brain wants Floyd, especially if that promoter has a hold of Pac!
What a stupid comment!!
It's a matter of honour, credibility and money and public satisfaction for Pac AND his whole team. It's a matter of all except for money for Floyd too AND his team.
Pac and his whole crew (trainer, manager, promoter) want it.
Floyd doesn't.
That's the point.
It's a legacy pounding, shameful disgrace for Floyd and there can be no twist of common sense that describes the situation any other way.
And again, this is coming from someone who views both boxers in an egalitarian light!
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Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.
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Max Power
This notion about Pac Man fighting who he is told to fight, I don't think that excludes Mayweather. Roach wants Floyd, Pac wants Floyd, any promoter with half a brain wants Floyd, especially if that promoter has a hold of Pac!
What a stupid comment!!
It's a matter of honour, credibility and money and public satisfaction for Pac AND his whole team. It's a matter of all except for money for Floyd too AND his team.
Pac and his whole crew (trainer, manager, promoter) want it.
Floyd doesn't.
That's the point.
It's a legacy pounding, shameful disgrace for Floyd and there can be no twist of common sense that describes the situation any other way.
And again, this is coming from someone who views both boxers in an egalitarian light!
How's your baby?
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He'll be 5 weeks old on Thursday!! =P He was only 7'3 and half when he was born but the little pig bucket has been whoofing down the formula, starting to become a little chubba haha. Been really good though actually, he only gets up once during night for feed and then normally goes back to sleep. Can't complain yet!! =P
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Master
Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.
Agreed. People can take whatever side they want, but in the end it was TWO prima donna athletes who couldn't come to terms about money, drug testing, ect and it cost us the fight of the century.
People are quick to bring up Floyd's excuses and inconsistencies, which is fair enough, but if you're going to do that, why not also bring up the fact that Pac refused olympic style drug testing because he claimed he was afraid of needles, and that it would weaken him, ect.
Every Olympics, THOUSANDS of athletes go through Olympic drug testing without issue and (to my knowledge) NONE of them have come out and said "this really hurts my performance, I'm weakened, ect".
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Beanflicker
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Master
Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.
Agreed. People can take whatever side they want, but in the end it was TWO prima donna athletes who couldn't come to terms about money, drug testing, ect and it cost us the fight of the century.
People are quick to bring up Floyd's excuses and inconsistencies, which is fair enough, but if you're going to do that, why not also bring up the fact that Pac refused olympic style drug testing because he claimed he was afraid of needles, and that it would weaken him, ect.
Every Olympics, THOUSANDS of athletes go through Olympic drug testing without issue and (to my knowledge) NONE of them have come out and said "this really hurts my performance, I'm weakened, ect".
blood tests can weaken you. olympic athletes usually do urine tests, and after competition they do the blood. not before a competition.
How many boxers have refused to fight someone because they "suspect" steroid use?
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Anyone who blames one and not the other is only seeing what they want to see. And frankly being dishonest.
Go back, drug testing was a roadblock Floyd created to those that choose to believe that. Impossible. The fight was agreed, with drug testing in the contract. It can not be what stopped the fight if the fight was happening with it. Something else stopped it and testing was the scapegoat.
Look at the thing that Pac fans point to now as outrageous Floyd won't deal with Top Rank. That's preposterous to the Pac side, it's laughable because Arum said he wouldn't deal with Golden Boy Promotions years ago. Don't act like you don't remember both sides saying Bob wouldn't take their calls or call them back.
Or remember when Bob said Floyd doesn't dictate when Pac fights? Before that Bob did the exact same thing from the original fight date to the countdown clock.
Both sides pull the same crap. Pick a side that's fine. But if you put the blame on one side without the other you're being ridiculous. I mean needles weaken me, stupid. Pacs cut needs 8 months to heal, or Floyd has been sentenced we might take that date, oh Floyd pushed it back well we need a build a magical unicorn temporary stadium that could be fabricated and constructed in weeks but we can't get done until right AFTER Floyd turns himself in.
Point is both sides have a litany of excuses and both sides are to blame. They both got rich off not fighting just as they intended. And they both played roles directly from professional wrestling. It's not even a sophisticated act and it's transparent. Those that don't see it choose not to.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
Regardless of Manny's losses, it's apparent that Floyd is afraid to fight him. Simple.
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Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
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Originally Posted by
chris6878
blood tests can weaken you. olympic athletes usually do urine tests, and after competition they do the blood. not before a competition.
How many boxers have refused to fight someone because they "suspect" steroid use?
A little blood withdrawn a week before the fight? Come on. And even assuming it would make a huge difference, it's something that's going to effect both of them, so why would it be an issue? Especially for a guy who's had some bloody wars like Pacquiao.
Boxers don't refuse it because don't have the power or financial security to, because it will mean losing out on a big payday. Floyd has the power to take his ball and go home.
People smashed Mayweather HARD for the drug testing thing, saying "who is he to demand special stipulations", "that's the commissions job not his", ect ect.
First off, in terms of "special stipulations", Manny came up with the stipulation that Floyd would pay 5 million (I could be wrong on the figure) for every pound Mayweather comes in overweight. I don't think it's standard rules for a guy to have to pay 5 million for every pound he comes in overweight - if it was, Lomachenko would be a very happy man right now. So both guys were posturing and demanding special stipulations to protect themselves: fair play to both of them.
As far as people doubting the validity of the Olympic-style drug testing stipulation, you have to realize that the athletic commissions have a PISS POOR track record of busting cheats and protecting the fighters.
They let Resto beat Billy Collins nearly to death with doctored gloves, and would have gotten away with it if Collins' dad hadn't felt his glove after the fight. The commission would have let Margarito batter Mosley with loaded gloves had Richardson not caught him (and let's be honest, who knows how many times Marg used those and got away with it.)
In terms of PEDs, the commissions drug testing is EASILY circumvented. Guys are not getting caught by the commissions: in general, they are only busted with the FBI raids the lab they bought their PEDs from and finds reciepts and records with their names on them.
Floyd's record is very special, he's spent 17 years beating a lot of tough guys to get it, and I don't fault him for wanting to ensure that the guy across the ring from him is on the level.
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FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
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imp
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FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
YEa that was probably the most ignat post on the site. you just described what all bullies are. So are you saying all black men are bullies? Thats like me saying all white women have long blond hair and blue eyes. WTF
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
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ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
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ruthless rocco
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ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
What does it have to do with fighting the second or third best guy in at least three divisions. The WBC made Manny a mandatory even, and he still refuses to fight under even that premise.
I don't like the idea of Floyd calling his own opponents... the pitfalls for corruption is extant.
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ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
Umm because Pac is the second best fighter around his division and he is the fighter of the decade with the award to show for?
Floyd is a shook ass nigga and a runner just like u, rocco. Lol except he's not a one hit wonder.. he's legit but everybody has doubts and he is reluctant to face pacman.
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ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
What does it have to do with fighting the second or third best guy in at least three divisions. The WBC made Manny a mandatory even, and he still refuses to fight under even that premise.
I don't like the idea of Floyd calling his own opponents... the pitfalls for corruption is extant.
BUT.... How does Floyd NEED Manny?
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If Manny whips Bradley, than the fight needs to happen IMO
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
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ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
What does it have to do with fighting the second or third best guy in at least three divisions. The WBC made Manny a mandatory even, and he still refuses to fight under even that premise.
I don't like the idea of Floyd calling his own opponents... the pitfalls for corruption is extant.
BUT.... How does Floyd NEED Manny?
He doesn't...everyone, including Pac nuthuggers, know that. I love how the word "corruption" is thrown around so idiotically. Floyd is on top...he calls the shots...he has earned that. Pac, to his own HUGE detriment, has Bob Arum as his boss. We all know Floyd's relationship with that blood sucking parasite. Pac is also basically broke and got viciously KOed by a fighter who was nearly 40 years old. BUT...Pac fans have all the excuses ready: Floyd is scared, JMM was on roids, etc. etc. The real truth is this: Pac needs Floyd...not the other way around. This is a business as much as a sport. And the reality is....Floyd is the the #1 businessman AND fighter in the sport (he actually is the highest paid athlete in ANY sport). Meanwhile Pac was fighting a bum in China cause his broke ass doesn't want to pay taxes. Move on people.
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chris6878
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
YEa that was probably the most ignat post on the site. you just described what all bullies are. So are you saying all black men are bullies? Thats like me saying all white women have long blond hair and blue eyes. WTF
I figured somebody would take this in a wrong way and get all bent outa shape but u misunderstood..
I was talking about certain groups, like the ones from the ghetto with the hood mentality.. blacks tend to be more aggressive than other ethic groups.. do u not know this? I dont care if u think im generalizing cuz its the truth.
Im not hating dude. I got few black friends.. I fuck with em if they cool.
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
What does it have to do with fighting the second or third best guy in at least three divisions. The WBC made Manny a mandatory even, and he still refuses to fight under even that premise.
I don't like the idea of Floyd calling his own opponents... the pitfalls for corruption is extant.
BUT.... How does Floyd NEED Manny?
No one really needs no one. They don't need each other. They should fight because it's in order.
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zhubin
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Floyd's latest running excuse (at least within the last year): "I don't need Manny!".... lolololol..... and even his nuthuggers are using this in arguments.
;D
How does Floyd need Manny?
What does it have to do with fighting the second or third best guy in at least three divisions. The WBC made Manny a mandatory even, and he still refuses to fight under even that premise.
I don't like the idea of Floyd calling his own opponents... the pitfalls for corruption is extant.
BUT.... How does Floyd NEED Manny?
He doesn't...everyone, including Pac nuthuggers, know that. I love how the word "corruption" is thrown around so idiotically. Floyd is on top...he calls the shots...he has earned that. Pac, to his own HUGE detriment, has Bob Arum as his boss. We all know Floyd's relationship with that blood sucking parasite. Pac is also basically broke and got viciously KOed by a fighter who was nearly 40 years old. BUT...Pac fans have all the excuses ready: Floyd is scared, JMM was on roids, etc. etc. The real truth is this: Pac needs Floyd...not the other way around. This is a business as much as a sport. And the reality is....Floyd is the the #1 businessman AND fighter in the sport (he actually is the highest paid athlete in ANY sport). Meanwhile Pac was fighting a bum in China cause his broke ass doesn't want to pay taxes. Move on people.
As we called Mayweather nuthuggers, here is something that is nutthuggery at its finest.
Just fight the dude- not only is he a top rated guy, rated higher than the guys you have eyed to fight, but because he is a mandatory for a title you fought for.
Mayweather is disrespecting the game. Just fight the dude.
:rolleyes:
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ps: "Calling the shots" was back in the 1930's and 40's, when you could have gotten away with MURDER on contracts and percentages- see the thread, just recently, on Joe Louis and Max Schemling. It's not THAT bad now.
As said, it reeks of CORRUPTION... and, YES.. we have to throw around corruption and dodging.
If left up to me, I would fight ONLY the guys I KNEW I could beat- when and where. Tell Floyd to get the fuck out of there with THAT "shit".
Fight who you're told- or else, NO MORE FIGHTS.
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FinitoElDinamita
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chris6878
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imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
YEa that was probably the most ignat post on the site. you just described what all bullies are. So are you saying all black men are bullies? Thats like me saying all white women have long blond hair and blue eyes. WTF
I figured somebody would take this in a wrong way and get all bent outa shape but u misunderstood..
I was talking about certain groups, like the ones from the ghetto with the hood mentality.. blacks tend to be more aggressive than other ethic groups.. do u not know this? I dont care if u think im generalizing cuz its the truth.
Im not hating dude. I got few black friends.. I fuck with em if they cool.
(I have some black friends...) typicial of what ignorant white people say. So white people in trailer parks arent agressive? Im sure you wouldnt know cause all your black friends are from the hood, you dont have any trailer park trash. What about spanish hoods, no violence there either, just the black hoods, i bet your "black friends" told you blacks are the most violent.
Besides your random non factual generalization. Id love to see your proof.
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FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
chris6878
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
YEa that was probably the most ignat post on the site. you just described what all bullies are. So are you saying all black men are bullies? Thats like me saying all white women have long blond hair and blue eyes. WTF
I figured somebody would take this in a wrong way and get all bent outa shape but u misunderstood..
I was talking about certain groups, like the ones from the ghetto with the hood mentality.. blacks tend to be more aggressive than other ethic groups.. do u not know this? I dont care if u think im generalizing cuz its the truth.
Im not hating dude. I got few black friends.. I fuck with em if they cool.
Finito behave yourself, you are perpetuating the myth that black people are more aggressive which is nonsence. I can see why they may get aggressive with you, because of your attitude towards them.
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FinitoElDinamita
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chris6878
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
Sometimes i wonder if your from this planet.
YEa that was probably the most ignat post on the site. you just described what all bullies are. So are you saying all black men are bullies? Thats like me saying all white women have long blond hair and blue eyes. WTF
I figured somebody would take this in a wrong way and get all bent outa shape but u misunderstood..
I was talking about certain groups, like the ones from the ghetto with the hood mentality.. blacks tend to be more aggressive than other ethic groups.. do u not know this? I dont care if u think im generalizing cuz its the truth.
Im not hating dude. I got few black friends.. I fuck with em if they cool.
I have a few half korean friends with small penises but their cool.
I also have friends that have mates in jail that are doing life for there other mates, but thats cool as well.
Its not cool to be a rat or snitch my nigga (or my chinka)
Do you realise how silly the above sounds finito?
I know your not all bad matey, but for crying out loud speak english and stop coming out with this slang crap and stereotype crap.
Grow up.
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Floyd is showing a classic trait of a black man..
Based on my experiences with the brothas, I would describe them like this.
Lot of black dudes have a certain attitude and if they perceive u as weak, they will walk all over you but if you do something to gain their respect, they will literally be scared of you. They will either punk you or fear you, no in between...
Floyd fears Pacquaio after seeing all those victims.
This is terrible man. Finito you have to be better than that bro. An entire extreme generalization on a race based on what? Your generalization is this...they are either bullies(which is bad) or punks(which is worse). So basically, you're trying to insinuate that generally "brothas" are all bad with no in between. Everybody makes follies and bad comments every now and then. But dude, some of your threads and comments are so laughable and frequent that you're starting to be considered laughable.
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I really thought that sensible boxing people would be exhausted with the Pac/PBF non fight discussions. But for the bias to still be so obvious after almost 5 years is remarkable. Anybody entirely blaming one side without acknowledging the other side's blame is either trolling or outright bias. If were going to debate an old and tired discussion then lets try an "only facts" thread. This should eliminate most of the bias/trolling which only muddies the water and makes for only an argument. Saying one is afraid of the other is an opinion or one is/was using PEDs is merely an accusation. To make a thread over Floyd and act like Pac didn't have very questionable tactics and some outright lies is not a debate. In this particular situation Floyd is kind of a bully(Finito:)in negotiations. He pushes until he gets his way and I really think this is the wrong approach for Pac who is the closest to matching Floyd in drawing power. Everybody else has to accept most of it but Pac does have some wiggle room. Lets challenge each other with facts only. Can anybody who thinks its all Floyd's fault explain the Pac lies when he first said no to the testing because he was afraid of needles.(Tattoos) Lie 1. Then agreed to a 30 days before the fight cut off because he felt he would get weak by blood draw too close to the fight. On 24/7 for the Hatton fight it showed Pac getting his blood drawn with less than 2 weeks to the fight. Lie 2. Explain why Pac demanded if Floyd was overweight he would be penalized at the tune of $10 million per pound. How does one explain that Pac turned down $40 million straight up because it wasn't enough but later states the fight isn't about the money and in fact he would fight for free and the money go to charity if Floyd agrees to give his money to charity as well. If Pac really thought Floyd was afraid of him then when Floyd called him personally to offer $40 million all he had to do was call his bluff and say yes and see if there was going to be any backpedaling. I think Pac is being misrepresented and it makes Pac look bad. I personally don't think either fighter is afraid of the other but I do think both teams have their concerns with their legacy, power, and status and we will forever have a stalemate.
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Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
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FinitoElDinamita
Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
Its all good bro. Its just that race is never a good subject to go extreme on. But I never intend to bash anyone. And just to be clear...you're going to get drunk and then defend yourself? Oh, this ought to be good;)
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I think both are a bit to blame for the fight not happening but what I find absurd is Floyd constantly bringing up the issue of "I'm the money cow".
What's that got to do with it? Ok, it does give you the prerogative to be choosy but I don't really give a sod how much you make. And neither will anyone else when they talk about you in 20 years time.
Though I do see him* winning, bad excuses don't make legends.
Edit: *Floyd.
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Originally Posted by
jehoshaphat
I really thought that sensible boxing people would be exhausted with the Pac/PBF non fight discussions. But for the bias to still be so obvious after almost 5 years is remarkable. Anybody entirely blaming one side without acknowledging the other side's blame is either trolling or outright bias. If were going to debate an old and tired discussion then lets try an "only facts" thread. This should eliminate most of the bias/trolling which only muddies the water and makes for only an argument. Saying one is afraid of the other is an opinion or one is/was using PEDs is merely an accusation. To make a thread over Floyd and act like Pac didn't have very questionable tactics and some outright lies is not a debate. In this particular situation Floyd is kind of a bully(Finito:)in negotiations. He pushes until he gets his way and I really think this is the wrong approach for Pac who is the closest to matching Floyd in drawing power. Everybody else has to accept most of it but Pac does have some wiggle room. Lets challenge each other with facts only. Can anybody who thinks its all Floyd's fault explain the Pac lies when he first said no to the testing because he was afraid of needles.(Tattoos) Lie 1. Then agreed to a 30 days before the fight cut off because he felt he would get weak by blood draw too close to the fight. On 24/7 for the Hatton fight it showed Pac getting his blood drawn with less than 2 weeks to the fight. Lie 2. Explain why Pac demanded if Floyd was overweight he would be penalized at the tune of $10 million per pound. How does one explain that Pac turned down $40 million straight up because it wasn't enough but later states the fight isn't about the money and in fact he would fight for free and the money go to charity if Floyd agrees to give his money to charity as well. If Pac really thought Floyd was afraid of him then when Floyd called him personally to offer $40 million all he had to do was call his bluff and say yes and see if there was going to be any backpedaling. I think Pac is being misrepresented and it makes Pac look bad. I personally don't think either fighter is afraid of the other but I do think both teams have their concerns with their legacy, power, and status and we will forever have a stalemate.
Lies, half truths and erroneous information IS a part of debate. What planet do you live on?
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
You seem like a good guy finito.
But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.
Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.
Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
You seem like a good guy finito.
But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.
Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.
Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.
Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?
Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol
My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..
Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..
Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.
I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..
Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..
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Re: Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
You seem like a good guy finito.
But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.
Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.
Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.
Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?
Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol
My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..
Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..
Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.
I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..
Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..
Imp thinks you are a good guy, remember his first line. You are reading negative things from his post when they are not meant to be :)
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
imp
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.
I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh
You seem like a good guy finito.
But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.
Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.
Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.
Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?
Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol
My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..
Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..
Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.
I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..
Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..
Calm down bro, im just saying what other people might feel.
I can happily speak a certain way when im at work or with my family or with friends (regardless of there ethnicity), all im saying is dont bunch a group of people into a box from just your experience from your group of friends.
My white friends are a certain way and my black friends are a certain way and brown etc and the same goes for all different cultures as theres good and bad in everyone of them.
I enjoy some of your threads and its not an attack but a helpful push in the right direction.