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Oscar Pistorius - The Trial Begins
Guilty or Not..?
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The family of Oscar Pistorius have called for an end to "public commentary" on his murder trial as he prepares for his biggest and most nerve-racking day in the world spotlight, dwarfing any of his star turns on the track.
Competition for gold, silver or bronze medals will be rendered trivial when the double-amputee athlete known as the blade runner enters court to a barrage of clicking cameras tomorrow. Pistorius will stand trial for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, 29, at his luxury home in Pretoria, South Africa, on Valentine's Day last year. He claims her death was an accident.
Along with the intense legal tussle, Pistorius also faces the pressure of a trial in the court of public opinion, thanks to intense scrutiny by newspapers and live television and radio broadcasts of proceedings. South Africa will even have a 24-hour TV channel devoted to coverage of, and commentary on, the trial.
Even if the Paralympic champion is found not guilty, his reputation will never be the same again as no stone in his personal life is left unturned. A foretaste came on Saturday when Britain's Sun newspaper reported that Pistorius, 27, had a new girlfriend, Leah Skye, a 19-year-old student paramedic, labelled "blade stunner" by the paper. A source close to the story told the Observer that the couple had in fact already separated‚ coincidentally, on Valentine's Day.
On Saturday his uncle, Arnold Pistorius, said: "With less than two days before the start of Oscar's criminal trial, the family as well as the legal team will not be distracted by extraneous issues that have no bearing on, or relevance to, the legal process that must now be allowed to unfold.
"We will not be commenting on any media reports, nor will we be engaging the press on any issues that belong in court. The time for public commentary is over. The focus is now entirely on a very serious trial that is set to start this Monday. We love Oscar, and believe in him, and will be standing by him throughout the coming trial."
The state has 107 witnesses for the trial, including Pistorius's ex-girlfriends Melissa Rom and Samantha Taylor, whose mother welcomed the end of their relationship, posting on Facebook that she was grateful Taylor was no longer in Pistorius's "claws". Erin Stear, who has denied reports she had an affair with Pistorius, will also take the stand. In addition the court will hear from former footballer Mark Batchelor, who has claimed that Pistorius threatened to "break my legs" because he was a close friend of Steenkamp, a law graduate, model and reality TV star.
Prosecutors are expected to paint an unflattering portrait of the accused as reckless, hot-headed and obsessed with guns, every detail of which will be broadcast to the world and lapped up by pundits. Sky News has shown footage of Pistorius at a firing range, shooting at a watermelon target that explodes on impact and draws delighted yells and laughter.
Police have said they found unlicensed .38 calibre ammunition in his house, while his Twitter account revealed he had boasted of going into "full attack recon mode in the pantry" after thinking an intruder was in his home.
The court will hear how, in one incident, Pistorius accidentally discharged a pistol under the table in a Johannesburg restaurant. In another he put a bullet through the sunroof of a girlfriend's car in a fit of rage. Shortly after Steenkamp's death, Nike had to scrap an advert that showed Pistorius bursting out of the starting blocks beneath the slogan: "I am the bullet in the chamber."
On Monday he will face Steenkamp's mother June for the first time. She has already made her feelings clear in a TV interview last year, recalling an incident in which Steenkamp phoned her from Pistorius's car. "She was afraid," June said. "She was so afraid. She said, mummy, I'm in the car with Oscar and he's driving like a lunatic. Like a lunatic. So I said, will you just give him the phone? She gave the phone to Oscar straight away. And I said if you hurt my baby, I will have you wiped out."
Last month Pistorius reached an out-of-court settlement over an assault case in which he was accused of injuring a female guest at a party in his house. In 2009 he crashed his speedboat into a pier, breaking his jaw and several ribs and damaging an eye socket. When he came out of a three-day coma, he had 180 stitches in his face.
The prosecution is likely to state that Pistorius and Steenkamp argued on the night that he fired four rounds from a 9mm pistol through a locked toilet door, hitting her in the head, arm and hip. They will call on the testimony of neighbours who claim to have heard shouts and screams coming from the house.
Mobile phone records could also offer evidence of a fight. Steenkamp is said to have had her phone with her in the toilet when she was shot‚ unusual in the early hours of the morning. Police have been trying to get access to Pistorius's iPhone, which might contain evidence of a fight in the form of text messages. South Africa's Times newspaper recently reported that Pistorius was looking at pornography on the night of Steenkamp's death.
Less than two years ago Pistorius graced the semi-final of the 400m at the London Olympics, earning a bouquet of international sponsorship deals. If the state succeeds in convincing judge Thokozile Masipa of intent to kill, the athlete will receive a life sentence with a minimum of 25 years in South Africa's notoriously unforgiving prisons.
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Last night heard on the news the cops were trying to get his password to his iphone (as if he'd forget that :rolleyes:) first thing that came to mind was ''Spring bok'. Bet thats it. ;D
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Seems really cut and dry, is there any chance he didn't kill her? Hope he gets the maximum sentence assuming not.
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Guy makes me sick.
Guilty as oj.
Gun nut.
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OJ wasn't guilty. If the glove doesn't fit...
It's not about whether or not he's guilty, it's about whether or not his team can sell the story they've concocted
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Sadly that's it, isn't his story that he thought she was an intruder to:rolleyes:? What a joke.
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So much money involved if he does get off..he will make loads£££
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imp
Guy makes me sick.
Guilty as oj.
Gun nut.
Sounds like jealousy played a part,but that's circumstantial, hopefully he hasnt a leg to stand on.
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If (like he claims) he just went to sleep with his girlfriend but was woken by the sound of an intruder then surely the first thing you would do would be to make sure your girlfriend stays in the bed safe while you search the house with a gun?
I can't wait to his his logic on that fact.
"Oh i thought she was still in the bed disguised as a duvet"
"Yeah i've thought she was a crumpled up duvet before at a glance"
I think he'll get the lesser manslaughter charge though which ranges from a suspended sentence to 15 years.
There's new evidence now anyway.... they found a blood stained cricket bat at the scene
And a pair of stumps;D
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The dude killed her
Yeah I always get up in the middle of the night, if I hear a noise get my gun and just start randomly shooting, even though I know my girlfriend is out the room,
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smashup
If (like he claims) he just went to sleep with his girlfriend but was woken by the sound of an intruder then surely the first thing you would do would be to make sure your girlfriend stays in the bed safe while you search the house with a gun?
I can't wait to his his logic on that fact.
"Oh i thought she was still in the bed disguised as a duvet"
"Yeah i've thought she was a crumpled up duvet before at a glance"
I think he'll get the lesser manslaughter charge though which ranges from a suspended sentence to 15 years.
There's new evidence now anyway.... they found a blood stained cricket bat at the scene
And a pair of stumps;D
Haha, yeah man I don't see how he could possibly skate on this one. You wake up and think there's an intruder? Ok, fair enough. That doesn't give you cause to discharge your weapon through a closed door.
This guy is clearly a psychopath who needs to be behind bars. He murdered that girl, no two ways about it. There's only two scenarios:
1) He murdered her on purpose, and the "intruder" story was just a cover-up, in which case he is a bonafide murderer.
2) He's telling the truth and he really did discharge a weapon without investingating or having a clear line of sight at the target, or any cause whatsoever to use deadly force... in which case he is a bonafide murderer.
Throw this idiot in jail.
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I'd hate to be in his shoes.
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I believe he is innocent.
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Master
I believe he is innocent.
Why
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Master
I believe he is innocent.
Why
Why would he shoot someone so hot and beautiful. It was clearly an accident. Case closed.
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Master
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Master
I believe he is innocent.
Why
Why would he shoot someone so hot and beautiful. It was clearly an accident. Case closed.
Hmm. Tough crowd in tonight.
I thought it was funny.;)
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Master
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imp
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Master
I believe he is innocent.
Why
Why would he shoot someone so hot and beautiful. It was clearly an accident. Case closed.
Were they talking about marriage? Maybe he got cold feet.
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Master is just upset because this has made his usual porn harder to come by. Now when he googles "Fucked African amputee" all he get's is this clown.
Did you hear paddy power are taking bets on his murder trial.
9/2 if he's found guilty
5000/1 if he walks.
Figured there had to be some jokes going around about the guy:D Not mine of course
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On the news last night,his next door neighbor said she heard female yelling and screams before any shots were fired.
This Oscar pricks attorney is fighting that by saying Oscar when excited sounds like a girl.
That should bear bare quiet well in jail cause they havent just come down in the last shower. ;)
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Andre
On the news last night,his next door neighbor said she heard female yelling and screams before any shots were fired.
This Oscar pricks attorney is fighting that by saying Oscar when excited sounds like a girl.
That should bear bare quiet well in jail cause they havent just come down in the last shower. ;)
You have an extraneous "down" in your last sentence there.
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Andre
On the news last night,his next door neighbor said she heard female yelling and screams before any shots were fired.
This Oscar pricks attorney is fighting that by saying Oscar when excited sounds like a girl.
That should bear bare quiet well in jail cause they havent just come down in the last shower. ;)
You have an extraneous "down" in your last sentence there.
AHHH of course Forced down in the shower block. I missed that one! :(
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where were the jokes about arturo gatti's death?
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Howlin Mad Missy
where were the jokes about arturo gatti's death?
What is your point, do you have a persecution complex? Nobody is trying to downplay this woman being murdered. Perhaps the man who did it having no legs and such a piss poor defence, makes it a more natural target for dark humour than an ex boxer who hung himself:rolleyes:.
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Howlin Mad Missy
where were the jokes about arturo gatti's death?
We are on the girlfriends side. Still he hasn't been found anything yet, can I say lacking. any credibility?
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All I really know about this man is that his name is ridiculous. Give him a peg leg and he would sound and look like a pirate. He's guilty, throw him in prison and please let the news focus on politics rather than isolated murder cases which are no more important than the tens of thousands of others. The mainstream media is sugarcoating the Ukraine from the western perspective enough as it is, without just dumping it for this. :p
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Howlin Mad Missy
where were the jokes about arturo gatti's death?
What is your point, do you have a persecution complex? Nobody is trying to downplay this woman being murdered. Perhaps the man who did it having no legs and such a piss poor defence, makes it a more natural target for dark humour than an ex boxer who hung himself:rolleyes:.
except it isn't as Gatti's mrs was dragged through the mud,
you posted this....."Did you hear paddy power are taking bets on his murder trial.
9/2 if he's found guilty
5000/1 if he walks. "
Figured there had to be some jokes going around about the guy:D Not mine of course
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The ad has now been pulled as over 122,000 signed a petition against it and they received 5,200 complaints.
Figured there had to be some jokes going around about the guy:D Not mine of course
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Except it isn't how? Make some sense, the two cases have nothing to do with each other and are quite different. I don't recall dragging Gatti's mrs through the mud myself, but I'm sure a lot of people around here did, or in fact are misogynists, since that's what you are so utterly hellbent on alluding to every other post you make. I somehow doubt Andre and myself qualify however:rolleyes:
I suppose if things were reversed and a woman were the high profile double amputee who shot her boyfriend and made some bs excuse, all of us awful men wouldn't dare make a joke about that right? Pu-lease.
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His ex gf has just fucked him, saying he always carried a gun and shot through the roof of his car after the police stopped him once because he was angry with them.
She goes on to say that he pointed his gun at someone's car window in another rage he had once and grabbed his gun on another occasion when he thought there was an intruder outside his house. So basically he's being exposed as hot headed short tempered trigger happy loon.
I heard he was a big steroid user for a long time too which would explain his mood swings.
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smashup
His ex gf has just fucked him, saying he always carried a gun and shot through the roof of his car after the police stopped him once because he was angry with them.
She goes on to say that he pointed his gun at someone's car window in another rage he had once and grabbed his gun on another occasion when he thought there was an intruder outside his house. So basically he's being exposed as hot headed short tempered trigger happy loon.
I heard he was a big steroid user for a long time too which would explain his mood swings.
That does not mean he deliberately shot his beautiful girlfriend who was possibly having a big shit at the time.
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p4pking
Except it isn't how? Make some sense, the two cases have nothing to do with each other and are quite different. I don't recall dragging Gatti's mrs through the mud myself, but I'm sure a lot of people around here did, or in fact are misogynists, since that's what you are so utterly hellbent on alluding to every other post you make. I somehow doubt Andre and myself qualify however:rolleyes:
I suppose if things were reversed and a woman were the high profile double amputee who shot her boyfriend and made some bs excuse, all of us awful men wouldn't dare make a joke about that right? Pu-lease.
Misogynist:
If you're someone who believes women belong in the kitchen and shouldn't be accorded the same respect as men, you might be a misogynist. A misogynist is a person who hates or doesn't trust women.
Misogynist is from Greek misogynḗs, from the prefix miso- "hatred" plus gynḗ "a woman." The English suffix -ist means "person who does something." The prefix mis-, a variant of miso- before a vowel, appears in the opposite term misandrist, which is a person who hates or doesn't trust men. The corresponding nouns are mysogyny and misandry.
Going by this definition found in the urban dictonary, I think im a misandrist cause i think men shouldnt leave the kitchen as they are the better chefs.
Im a misandreist.
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Anyone buying his Oscar winning acting?
Saw some of it earlier on Sky news, constantly in tears , throwing up into a bucket forcing proceedings to be adjurned again and again and refusing to look at certain pics as they "upset" him.
Dont believe any of what he's blubbering out personally but cann see him getting the manslaughter charge which means zero jail time to 15 years.
Just seeing the videos of him at a shooting range comparing the watermelon exploding to a brain makes him look the total gun nut he is.
Annoying they wont show live footage of him squirming in the dock :)
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I believe him and OJ were innocent. Also The guy that killed Dewani is guilty.
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I think he's guilty as fuck.
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This prosecuting Lawyer is ripping him to shreds, he's known as the Rottweiler.
Pistorius claims he spoke to his Girlfriend in the bedroom when he thought he heard an intruder?
He thought that she was safe then approached the bathroom with his gun.
Im no legal genius but how did she get into the bathroom without him noticing? Lol
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Master
I believe him and OJ were innocent. Also The guy that killed Dewani is guilty.
Oj really is innocent bro and I made a thread about that awhile ago explaining everything in detail..
It was the Cartels... in a nutshell, the way they were murdered, from the timing and the incision and everything could have been done only by a true professional..
OJ was a football player, not a professional killer..
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Master
I believe him and OJ were innocent. Also The guy that killed Dewani is guilty.
Shrien Dewani is actually gay which Im sure will come out when he's in court.
As for Pistorius at the very least he's guilty of manslaughter. Cocky white men like him are what holds modern South Africa back.
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smashup
This prosecuting Lawyer is ripping him to shreds, he's known as the Rottweiler.
Pistorius claims he spoke to his Girlfriend in the bedroom when he thought he heard an intruder?
He thought that she was safe then approached the bathroom with his gun.
Im no legal genius but how did she get into the bathroom without him noticing? Lol
I want to know if he made the time to sit on his bed and get his false legs on or if he shuffled out to the dunny on his stumps and couldnt peek up through the key hole :rolleyes: or something?
I know Im a prick, but its relevant.
If he got out of the sack and sat there and fitted his legs on he must have looked in the bed and not seen her.
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The idiot changed his evidence today in the middle of the trial. Looks like he's shot himself in the foot.
It finally came out what their last argument was about. Pistorius wanted a new bathroom door but his girlfriend was dead against it.
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Hearing the evidence today I am begging to think he may have done something wrong.
That prosecutor is killing Oscar.