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This sport is so unpredictable, you're really rolling the dice when you turn down opportunities like that because so much change with just one decision, or one punch.
That would have been the biggest fight in the history of the sport and the winner would have been propelled to a level of greatness neither have been able to reach without the fight. Not only did he turn down the 40 million for the one off fight with Mayweather, but if he had flattened Mayweather like he and many other boxing fans thought he would, he would have been making a crazy amount more per fight than what he is now.
You need a Samsung, das what u need..Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Yeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Too big and clumsy. I love apple.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYou need a Samsung, das what u need..Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Cheers anyway.
When you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
40 million is a big deal!
Although like Ariza said, if Manny was scared to be beaten by Floyd or rather, scared to have to fight without taking whatever he is taking then cou ter offer with 50 or 60 or do what Hopkins did to Calzaghe when he was middle weight champ, double it!
You know I never thought about that part. I guess a bad test would halt that money train and worse(dismiss his legacy). I'm not accusing Pac of PEDs but what the heck could really make you turn down that offer. He'd rather make 20 million when the other guy is making 5 million as opposed to making 40 million if the other guy is making possibly 60 million??? It doesn't matter if the other guy is making a billion dollars or one dollar. Your 40 million is still 40 million. And just to say hmmmm...I read that Pac refused VADA testing in the Bradley fight and the Bradley team made a bit of speculative noise about that. Bradley said he is still going to take the test. If this is true it seems the testing only for the Rios' fight was because Pac knows something about Ariza's tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Innocent until proven guilty and all that other bullshit, but yeah, in my book the drug test scared Manny because he was (or still is) using something.
If you're an elite athlete now adays, you're a suspect for PED use. That's the sad reality. But when you're putting on crazy muscle mass and jumping up weight fast like Manny did - especially when you're also doing crazy amounts of cardio everyday - that really is a tip off.
Ask body builders how to put on 15lbs of lean muscle mass. They're not going to tell you to run 10 miles a day, jump rope, hit the heavy bag, spar, ect. Cardio & gaining muscle mass do not go hand in hand unless you're using steroids.
No pac fan can defend his reluctance of having the proper drug tests.
If you have nothing to hide and 40 mill is on the table just accept!
Freddie roach already mentioned that he didnt know what ariza put in pacs drink.
For sure and I think Freddie saying that is just covering his and Pac's ass incase something comes out down the road, where they can play the "Ariza gave Pac steroids without his knowledge" angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Freddie knows. Pac knows. Floyd called his bluff and demanded the testing, and Pac made every excuse not to go through with it.
Pac isn't at fault, Floyd isn't at fault, exclusively. Pac and Floyd are at fault
If they really wanted the fight enough they would have made some compromises to ensure it happened. Neither wanted it enough and preferred to not lose and take the lesser challengers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
All people need to do is pay close attention and the reason why he turned down a career high 40 million becomes obvious. It wasn't cuz he didn't want to be dilated by Mayweather. Arum and Roach have been dictating to him for years. He's use to it. It wasn't cuz he was scared of Mayweather either. Cuz rather he was or wasn't it won't of matter. Pac would still of took the fight. That L would of came with 40 million. And he still would of been alright. He lost to a fighter nobody has beaten. Not much shame in that. Plus he has his legacy to fall back on. And that legacy is what he can't afford to lose. Pac can survive a loss. He can survive a knock out loss. He can't survive a dirty test. No way in hell. If Pac were to fail a test he would lose everything. His legacy becomes a fraudulent joke. He would be more hated than Osama Bin Laden. He would be responsible for 90% of the Filipino population literally committing suicide upon hearing of his failed test. Bobby Pacquiao would legally change his name to Bobby Marquez and refuse to acknowledge him as his brother. His fall from grace would be a brutal one. It would be all bad. How bad? Bad enough that he would give up 40 million he desperately needs to avoid any chance of it happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYou know I never thought about that part. I guess a bad test would halt that money train and worse(dismiss his legacy). I'm not accusing Pac of PEDs but what the heck could really make you turn down that offer. He'd rather make 20 million when the other guy is making 5 million as opposed to making 40 million if the other guy is making possibly 60 million??? It doesn't matter if the other guy is making a billion dollars or one dollar. Your 40 million is still 40 million. And just to say hmmmm...I read that Pac refused VADA testing in the Bradley fight and the Bradley team made a bit of speculative noise about that. Bradley said he is still going to take the test. If this is true it seems the testing only for the Rios' fight was because Pac knows something about Ariza's tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
What a load of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseAll people need to do is pay close attention and the reason why he turned down a career high 40 million becomes obvious. It wasn't cuz he didn't want to be dilated by Mayweather. Arum and Roach have been dictating to him for years. He's use to it. It wasn't cuz he was scared of Mayweather either. Cuz rather he was or wasn't it won't of matter. Pac would still of took the fight. That L would of came with 40 million. And he still would of been alright. He lost to a fighter nobody has beaten. Not much shame in that. Plus he has his legacy to fall back on. And that legacy is what he can't afford to lose. Pac can survive a loss. He can survive a knock out loss. He can't survive a dirty test. No way in hell. If Pac were to fail a test he would lose everything. His legacy becomes a fraudulent joke. He would be more hated than Osama Bin Laden. He would be responsible for 90% of the Filipino population literally committing suicide upon hearing of his failed test. Bobby Pacquiao would legally change his name to Bobby Marquez and refuse to acknowledge him as his brother. His fall from grace would be a brutal one. It would be all bad. How bad? Bad enough that he would give up 40 million he desperately needs to avoid any chance of it happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYou know I never thought about that part. I guess a bad test would halt that money train and worse(dismiss his legacy). I'm not accusing Pac of PEDs but what the heck could really make you turn down that offer. He'd rather make 20 million when the other guy is making 5 million as opposed to making 40 million if the other guy is making possibly 60 million??? It doesn't matter if the other guy is making a billion dollars or one dollar. Your 40 million is still 40 million. And just to say hmmmm...I read that Pac refused VADA testing in the Bradley fight and the Bradley team made a bit of speculative noise about that. Bradley said he is still going to take the test. If this is true it seems the testing only for the Rios' fight was because Pac knows something about Ariza's tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
So hes only worried about testing positive and doesnt mind if he loses to Mayweather?
Stop taking steroids and fight fair then:rolleyes:
So many blocks. So many managers.
Pac could have made so much more money if he had al haymon as his advisor and left top rank many years ago.
Freddie roach is another one that likes to bark properganda all the time and the majority always seem to believe these guys.
If pac was on peds or whatever he can still be taking them until he is forced to take that proper olympic style testing.
He has 5 losses with a big fight coming up in april against a guy that will be putting everything on the line and wont be a punchbag like rios.
As Mike Tyson had said it beforehand: "With that amount of money on the line, someone is definitely afraid to fight!"...
They are both pussies. jmo...
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Originally Posted by rossWhat a load of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseAll people need to do is pay close attention and the reason why he turned down a career high 40 million becomes obvious. It wasn't cuz he didn't want to be dilated by Mayweather. Arum and Roach have been dictating to him for years. He's use to it. It wasn't cuz he was scared of Mayweather either. Cuz rather he was or wasn't it won't of matter. Pac would still of took the fight. That L would of came with 40 million. And he still would of been alright. He lost to a fighter nobody has beaten. Not much shame in that. Plus he has his legacy to fall back on. And that legacy is what he can't afford to lose. Pac can survive a loss. He can survive a knock out loss. He can't survive a dirty test. No way in hell. If Pac were to fail a test he would lose everything. His legacy becomes a fraudulent joke. He would be more hated than Osama Bin Laden. He would be responsible for 90% of the Filipino population literally committing suicide upon hearing of his failed test. Bobby Pacquiao would legally change his name to Bobby Marquez and refuse to acknowledge him as his brother. His fall from grace would be a brutal one. It would be all bad. How bad? Bad enough that he would give up 40 million he desperately needs to avoid any chance of it happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYou know I never thought about that part. I guess a bad test would halt that money train and worse(dismiss his legacy). I'm not accusing Pac of PEDs but what the heck could really make you turn down that offer. He'd rather make 20 million when the other guy is making 5 million as opposed to making 40 million if the other guy is making possibly 60 million??? It doesn't matter if the other guy is making a billion dollars or one dollar. Your 40 million is still 40 million. And just to say hmmmm...I read that Pac refused VADA testing in the Bradley fight and the Bradley team made a bit of speculative noise about that. Bradley said he is still going to take the test. If this is true it seems the testing only for the Rios' fight was because Pac knows something about Ariza's tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
So hes only worried about testing positive and doesnt mind if he loses to Mayweather?
Stop taking steroids and fight fair then:rolleyes:
Without steroids he's Bobby Pacquiao
The number 40 mill may sound enormous to the regular folks and its the kind of money they would never turn down under any circumstances, but to somebody like pacquaio whose living that life, his perception is totally different..
If im pacquaio, I know my worth and what I deserve to be paid.. I dont give a fuck if that punk nigga floyd offers 40 million cuz I know the fight is going to generate a lot more than that and he's going to get the big piece of the pie..
Why should pac settle for 40 mill knowing that theres a lot more in the pot? So pac gets 40 mill and flotd end up taking like fuckin twice as much....
40 mill or not, pac would feel cheated... that's bad business..
Yeah or if you were sure you were going to win you would have a side bet and take even more off the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
True saying: Winners know they are winners, losers hope they are going to win.
Here though we got two winners and some ego got in the way.
That was a starting figure, he didnt come back with a counter or even a question.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
He should of said "Yeah ok and I bet you your purse you lose".
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
It was 40 million without Arum. Which means Pac had a chance of taking home about 28 to 30 million after he took care of expenses. With Arum, Pac earns about 60 million. And goes home with 4 million
She really offered 40 million?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
It was 40 million without Arum. Which means Pac had a chance of taking home about 28 to 30 million after he took care of expenses. With Arum, Pac earns about 60 million. And goes home with 4 million
He gets £40 million for teying to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat a load of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseAll people need to do is pay close attention and the reason why he turned down a career high 40 million becomes obvious. It wasn't cuz he didn't want to be dilated by Mayweather. Arum and Roach have been dictating to him for years. He's use to it. It wasn't cuz he was scared of Mayweather either. Cuz rather he was or wasn't it won't of matter. Pac would still of took the fight. That L would of came with 40 million. And he still would of been alright. He lost to a fighter nobody has beaten. Not much shame in that. Plus he has his legacy to fall back on. And that legacy is what he can't afford to lose. Pac can survive a loss. He can survive a knock out loss. He can't survive a dirty test. No way in hell. If Pac were to fail a test he would lose everything. His legacy becomes a fraudulent joke. He would be more hated than Osama Bin Laden. He would be responsible for 90% of the Filipino population literally committing suicide upon hearing of his failed test. Bobby Pacquiao would legally change his name to Bobby Marquez and refuse to acknowledge him as his brother. His fall from grace would be a brutal one. It would be all bad. How bad? Bad enough that he would give up 40 million he desperately needs to avoid any chance of it happeningQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYou know I never thought about that part. I guess a bad test would halt that money train and worse(dismiss his legacy). I'm not accusing Pac of PEDs but what the heck could really make you turn down that offer. He'd rather make 20 million when the other guy is making 5 million as opposed to making 40 million if the other guy is making possibly 60 million??? It doesn't matter if the other guy is making a billion dollars or one dollar. Your 40 million is still 40 million. And just to say hmmmm...I read that Pac refused VADA testing in the Bradley fight and the Bradley team made a bit of speculative noise about that. Bradley said he is still going to take the test. If this is true it seems the testing only for the Rios' fight was because Pac knows something about Ariza's tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWhen you doubt you can win and know for a fact you're not passing the blood test you walk away from 40 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by jehoshaphatYeah, I expect the Floyd haters to spin it no matter what but there is no way you walk away from a $40 million offer. No counter, no nothing? Never done before in the history of sports. But of course now he'll take the fight for charity. You don't walk away from that offer...unless you're being badly misrepresented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
So hes only worried about testing positive and doesnt mind if he loses to Mayweather?
Stop taking steroids and fight fair then:rolleyes:
Without steroids he's Bobby Pacquiao
Hes not earning that combined for the rest of his career.