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fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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I've watched the ko a few times now and for me its absolute bullshit.
The left was a nothing punch (and please no one start with the equilibrium card) that most welterweights could have easily taken and this is a seasoned half decent Heavyweight.
The right didnt even land.
That fight was fixed.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
Watch 0.54 mark where scott winks at him straight up..
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=wilder%20vs%20scott&sm=3
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
Shameful stuff. If Scott gets a relatively big fight in his next outing or two, you know for sure it was a fix, because Scott should be completely blackballed from boxing for that bullshit.
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That left hand punch wasnt even a punch , just a slap with the inside of the glove.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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smashup
That left hand punch wasnt even a punch , just a slap with the inside of the glove.
It was on the bottom end of the glove to the top side of the temple... it maywell "could" have hurt, but I doubt it hurt that much. That much to the point Scott couldn't get up and scrambled the way he did... even when he had to be helped up by the ref it LOOKED like he knew he was paid to take the dive.
I think the Chisora fight took the pride out of him. He was hoping to go on undefeated- some guys, after losses, tough and not so tough, heart breaking losses, just decide to accept their fate and just get a pay check.
Such is Scott...
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
I didn't like the "love tap" to the hip Scott gave Wilder after the middle of the ring instructions given by the Ref. lololol.....
It's Puerto Rico, I guess!?!? Don't be surprised if you see Scott start to take a lot of trips back and forth to PR. Just to go and visit because he "likes" PR soooooooooooooo much, even with the disappointment he got in PR.
;D
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
That was the most shameful display of market manipulation I have seen since the Bank of England became full on mafia. Wilder hit Scott on the gloves, nothing landed clean, and the guy fell as though the Titanic had hit him on the head.
Then factor in the robbery in the main event and Showtime trying to cover the cracks with power punch breakdown numbers on a round by round basis. The fix was in after the 8th and the scorecards were terrible.
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I thought it was a fix but looking at it again in slow mo the left hook did faze him.
I dont think it was a fix and we cant underestimate wilders power.
Put him in with chris uglyarroera next.. Or fury.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
I'm not an athlete nor even a HW, but I am convinced that I could create a routine to last longer than that, and at least offer some form of entertainment in the process.
Every HW knows that you feel out the 1st round and to a degree Scott was doing that, but then just collapsed like a deckchair in Brighton at the first sight of fall.
Only Tyson Fury attempts to uppercut himself, yet only Scott manages to Knock himself out with his own hands. It was bizarre.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
Well first off, we don't have to. We're not "world class" prizefighters. There's no expectation for any of us to be able to take a punch. If I go to a restaurant and the food sucks, can I not complain if I don't have a degree in the culinary arts?
Comparing the punch David Price took to this one is just insane. Price got hit with a CLEAN, hard left to the temple with enough concussive force to slam his head back into his own shoulder.
This punch was a slapping left - a throwaway punch thrown to hide the right straight that didn't land.
If it wasn't a dive, Malik should be banned from boxing because obviously he doesn't have the cranial integrity to withstand punches and he's unfit to fight.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
Well first off, we don't have to. We're not "world class" prizefighters. There's no expectation for any of us to be able to take a punch. If I go to a restaurant and the food sucks, can I not complain if I don't have a degree in the culinary arts?
Comparing the punch David Price took to this one is just insane. Price got hit with a CLEAN, hard left to the temple with enough concussive force to slam his head back into his own shoulder.
This punch was a slapping left - a throwaway punch thrown to hide the right straight that didn't land.
If it wasn't a dive, Malik should be banned from boxing because obviously he doesn't have the cranial integrity to withstand punches and he's unfit to fight.
Listen: If Wilder had hit me with that shot, with my limited amateur background, I would last more than 1 round. Probably go about 3 before my fat ass runs out of gas. Scott dived....
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
... and Scott was supposed to have a "good chin", better than average. And he was supposed to be a guy, well seasoned in defense and able to weave out of hard shots and take the steam out of ordinary shots. There was nothing in previous fights or reports that suggested that Scott was a light-jawed HW. Sure, he didn't have alot of power, but Chisora doesn't either and Chisora simply grinds you down to a crisp IF he can.
Scott decided, for some reason, not to get up. Whether he was paid to dive or simply didn't want to fight, is up to debate. But he clearly took a dive!
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
Betting Chisora feels a little vindicated after all of the Scott got screwed on a quick count stuff.
On the first replay Lastnight, the way Scott just followed him with clear eyes.. just looked very shady. Wilder drooling and yelling Sparta style like he just conquered storming the beaches ffs. Please :p
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Betting Chisora feels a little vindicated after all of the Scott got screwed on a quick count stuff.
On the first replay Lastnight, the way Scott just followed him with clear eyes.. just looked very shady. Wilder drooling and yelling Sparta style like he just conquered storming the beaches ffs. Please :p
;D
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
Well first off, we don't have to. We're not "world class" prizefighters. There's no expectation for any of us to be able to take a punch. If I go to a restaurant and the food sucks, can I not complain if I don't have a degree in the culinary arts?
Comparing the punch David Price took to this one is just insane. Price got hit with a CLEAN, hard left to the temple with enough concussive force to slam his head back into his own shoulder.
This punch was a slapping left - a throwaway punch thrown to hide the right straight that didn't land.
If it wasn't a dive, Malik should be banned from boxing because obviously he doesn't have the cranial integrity to withstand punches and he's unfit to fight.
If sauteing an onion might kill you, then your analogy would be more accurate;)
Whose to say Wilder doesn't just hit a lot harder than Tony Thompson? The shot that landed on Price didn't appear all that hard either and it was a similar sort of cuffing shot that wrapped around the ear, I don't see whats remotely insane about comparing them. The only real difference is that Thompson was much more clearly out of it afterwards, it's Scotts reaction and the eye contact that made this one look suspect imo. Still, we don't know what he felt in there.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
The key to fixed fights is not letting the fighter that wins know the fight is fixed.
It doesn't do Wilder's confidence any good to know that his opponents are taking dives. The fewer people that know about a fixed fight the better. Only the fighter taking the dive and the guy that puts him up to it should know.
Wilder is there to throw punches he doesn't need Scott to wink at him. Scott just has to go down (and stay down) when he feels a hard punch land.
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Betting Chisora feels a little vindicated after all of the Scott got screwed on a quick count stuff.
On the first replay Lastnight, the way Scott just followed him with clear eyes.. just looked very shady. Wilder drooling and yelling Sparta style like he just conquered storming the beaches ffs. Please :p
He does get pretty worked up lol
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Betting Chisora feels a little vindicated after all of the Scott got screwed on a quick count stuff.
On the first replay Lastnight, the way Scott just followed him with clear eyes.. just looked very shady. Wilder drooling and yelling Sparta style like he just conquered storming the beaches ffs. Please :p
Loool
That made me chuckle.
It does seem alittle dodgy but that hook glancing or not will take away those legs and he landed awkwardly.
Scott never wanted to fight anyway..i mean, did he even throw a punch?!
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'd love to see some of you plums take that left hook.
I suppose David Price was faking it too when Tony Thompson "tapped" him around the ear/temple?
Well first off, we don't have to. We're not "world class" prizefighters. There's no expectation for any of us to be able to take a punch. If I go to a restaurant and the food sucks, can I not complain if I don't have a degree in the culinary arts?
Comparing the punch David Price took to this one is just insane. Price got hit with a CLEAN, hard left to the temple with enough concussive force to slam his head back into his own shoulder.
This punch was a slapping left - a throwaway punch thrown to hide the right straight that didn't land.
If it wasn't a dive, Malik should be banned from boxing because obviously he doesn't have the cranial integrity to withstand punches and he's unfit to fight.
Well I can see Scott's head jolting from that slapping nothing shot, which leads me to believe it probably hurt.
I'd gladly take any sort of punch from Tony Thompson than one from Wilder.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
;D;D;D
If i poked you with my finger fairly hard i could jolt your head back..?
That was a joke, a nothing slap!
Scott is a Heavyweight fighter not a 10 year old boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
It's a legit knockout/tko or whatever you consider it.
It's not even that bad of a hook, plus wilder hits hard and it's bang on the temple.
More importantly, why would they have him throw such a ridiculous fight? Scott was ALWAYS getting KOd and if you don't believe this you don't know your boxing.
Why have a fight thrown for Wilder against a guy coming of a loss? A loss against a guy who nobody believe will be a world champion?
Ridiculous
Again I ask, why throw a fight it the favor of the favourite?
Plus Scott's career is not exactly over is it? Not like he needs to throw the fight for money, when you consider that if he wins it there are so many opportunities for him to make millions.
Scott if I'm honest, is shit. Never rated him and I would have bet a decent few quid on a wilder KO.
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FinitoElDinamita
I had a friend who smiled when he got into tight spots, seriously, the man could not help it. It used to drive everyone around him crazy.
You are saying the fight was fixed because Scott blinked when he was down.
What would you say about my friend with the smiling ways when he was down?
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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beenKOed
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
I had a friend who smiled when he got into tight spots, seriously, the man could not help it. It used to drive everyone around him crazy.
You are saying the fight was fixed because Scott blinked when he was down.
What would you say about my friend with the smiling ways when he was down?
Eubank nearly nodded his own head off when Calzaghe flattened him.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
As insignificant as the left hook may have appeared, we should consider that Scott was also put down by Chisora who is not a very hard puncher.
http://youtu.be/sZO-DkW2VR0
Maybe Scott doesn't have a great chin after all.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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ninjaspy3
Yes the left hook looked a harder punch.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
^^ agreed master.
But Scott wasn't confident either.
After what happened with Del Boy, Scott was sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish market.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Vendettos
^^ agreed master.
But Scott wasn't confident either.
After what happened with Del Boy, Scott was sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish market.
That is the best put down ever!!!! ;D You must have a book? I need to read it!
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
^^ agreed master.
But Scott wasn't confident either.
After what happened with Del Boy, Scott was sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish market.
That is the best put down ever!!!! ;D You must have a book? I need to read it!
Lol, no book, just some creativity and a job that gave me 12 hours a night to think lol.
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
^^ agreed master.
But Scott wasn't confident either.
After what happened with Del Boy, Scott was sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish market.
That is the best put down ever!!!! ;D You must have a book? I need to read it!
Lol, no book, just some creativity and a job that gave me 12 hours a night to think lol.
You need to write a book then Batman. I have been at the end of some of those put downs. :)
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Re: fixed fight proof... Scott winks at Wilder and gives the sign.. " hit me now "
Scott is from Philly. If he took a dive he would been murdered before he got home