Who would win if they fight?
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Who would win if they fight?
1 in 5 or 20% punchers chance for Wilder. Range, speed and power are such that that cannot be dismissed.
However Wladimir is so much more skilled and seasoned and 20lbs heftier than Wilder, he would punch the ridiculous Wilder into next week within 6 with the same ease with which he dismantled Mariusz Wach. Except Wilder can't take the same punches.
Wlad is seasoned and would take him into depths that Wilder has never swam in and drown him.
Can't ignore the experience and the skills of Wladimir..
WTF has WIlder done to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Wlad..
Wilder is the HW version of Tyrone Brunson until he proves otherwise..
Brunson had a killer KO with some hype behind him until he ran into his first decent opponent in Carson Jones..
Wilder hasn't faced an opponent on the level of Carson Jones, P4P..
Right now, Wlad dominates him..
I don't think Wilder has a solid idea how to use his range effectively. Has hasn't had to and walks in on top of his own jab. It's getting into the deep end of WTFville with the Wilder hype and can only see Wlad carving him up in brutal fashion. Wilder ain't ready for this.
wladimir is quicker and more maneuverable than many people give him credit for(whether or not he is an atg or not is another matter ) but i think he would handle the height and reach of wilder quite easily and just out jab him pretty easily and eventually knock him out with his left hook in the later rounds ... it woudl probably be a very boring encounter but wilder does seem to have scary power. I thought in wilders brief encounter with liakovich he looked a bit confused and off when the belarussian jabbed him and that would be a lot worse v wladimir. I also dont think wilder , whilst having quick hands, is quick enough to hit wlad well or maneuverable enough to avoid klitschko at all :S
wilders fun just now though, I like him!
I don't think Wilder is looking for decisions in these times.... I dare say Wilder has not lost a round in the pro's either. With that being said: Would Wlad want to venture in to get clipped by Wilder? Price, Firtha, Sergei, et al, either got clipped early and went down OR got clipped and halted their assault.
I don't think Wilder is ready for Wlad either and I don't think a punchers chance is going to get him to the the promised land against Wlad, but with 31 KOs in 31 fights you have to say he does know a little about fighting at the proper range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Not against guys who come to win or are top level, I don't see it. His jab almost looks too rehearsed, like he's watching himself in a mirror. He's trying to learn it but range matters in legs too..in positioning and his feet often look scattered. Lunges off long right hand with left foot flying through the air and lands squared up. He's just not 'fluid' using natural gifts, to me anyway. He's trying you can see that for sure, but against all of these muffin tops and lesser guys you eventually stop learning and become predictable. His people are doing him no favors trying to tight-rope walk him to a championship...this guy needs to get scuffed up and strive to survive to learn for himself what he really hasQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI don't think Wilder is ready for Wlad either and I don't think a punchers chance is going to get him to the the promised land against Wlad, but with 31 KOs in 31 fights you have to say he does know a little about fighting at the proper range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Not voting 'cause it's a lame poll.
Wilder's been fighting a dead man every time out.
Yeah, 31 wins, 31 KOs, and over 5 years as a pro, yet he still hasn't stepped in with even a fair-to-middlin' opponent yet, let alone a top 10 fighter?
For $#!t's sake...
Wlad has boxed well over 300 rounds in his pro career, Wilder barely 50 against poor opponents. Wilder's got a punchers chance but so did Haye and what did that count for? Wladimir has reduced the risk to his suspect chin remarkably since he got the belts.
I don't think it will be that boring of an affair actually. Against taller opponents, recently like Tony Thompson and Mariusz Wach, Wlad in fact showed us great athletic boxing prowess.
Punch speed and punch power won him those fights!
I think Wilder would take it to him to start and if he remains brave enough after being countered left right and centre we might see a right punch up!
Although Wilder could just as viably get deterred early and in which case we would see the usual methodical breakdown until Wilder can barely move followed by a massive KO of one of America's hopefuls.
Honestly I think Chris Arreola has the best shot out of the US in producing both a challenge AND a good hard fight.
He is the only American HW truly "tough" enough.
I agree with you, just like everyone else, except his handlers. He has to get by Stiverne or Arreola if it plays out that way, plus Haye? and or Fury? There are plenty of ifs before he gets in the ring with Wlad and more when he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNot against guys who come to win or are top level, I don't see it. His jab almost looks too rehearsed, like he's watching himself in a mirror. He's trying to learn it but range matters in legs too..in positioning and his feet often look scattered. Lunges off long right hand with left foot flying through the air and lands squared up. He's just not 'fluid' using natural gifts, to me anyway. He's trying you can see that for sure, but against all of these muffin tops and lesser guys you eventually stop learning and become predictable. His people are doing him no favors trying to tight-rope walk him to a championship...this guy needs to get scuffed up and strive to survive to learn for himself what he really hasQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI don't think Wilder is ready for Wlad either and I don't think a punchers chance is going to get him to the the promised land against Wlad, but with 31 KOs in 31 fights you have to say he does know a little about fighting at the proper range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
purely depends where the fight was held, if wlads people were promting it wlad would win
anyone else it mnight be interesting
Wilder will land at least once and I don't think Wlad could take it.
Wlad can't keep fighting bums.
It would either be a boring 12 round decision for Wlad.
Or wilder believes the hype and ends up getting himself KO'd in 3 rounds.
You mean NOW?
I voted Wlad by decision.
A scared shitless Wlad would, clinch, foul, arm-tangle, push, and otherwise frustrate the powerful but still raw Wilder into a foul-filled, wrestling, ugly, "stink-up-the-joint" affair. Don't forget.... Wlad's an old pro. He knows all the tricks. He ain't about to let any part of Wilder's gloves anywhere near that brittle chin of his. And Wilder is too raw and unseasoned to force the issue with any effectiveness. It would be ugly.... there'd be a lot of booing.... and it would make Wlad-Povetkin look like Ali-Frazier III in comparison.
Wow poll closes in 2016 :confused: even then Wilder still gets KTFO ;D
Oops. Forgot to vote. Wilder gets KTFO :teacher: - :flamed: style
Wladimir is not my favourite HW Tito but tell me...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Can you give us all an example of when Wladimir Klitschko has ever fouled and wrestled a tall opponent?
Those opponents bring out the best in Wlad.