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I've been looking for someone who throws a lot of jabs (effective) and someone made a reference of the man paulie malignaggi which I agree. I've been watching his fights lately and man he throws A LOT of jabs,not just flicker and tapping jabs but actually jabs to land. Usually up jabs and combines that w/ feints also.
Question is what else do you think is the reason for his successful jab through out the years? And do you think this is a must add to your game? ie; increasing jab output
Paulie is not bad, but overall he is B- or C+ level.
Study the best: Leonard, Holmes, Mayweather
I think Paulies jab is more deserving of a mark higher than B- At least a B, B+. Not a lot of people speak on Mayweathers jab. It is amazing. He can win a fight with it. No one has an answer for it. Damn near perfect if such a thing could be said
OK, I was wrong. But still, I would study somebody esleQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Besides mayweather who are some lighter weight fighters with a GOOD and active jab I can watch???
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Originally Posted by hma123
Shane Mosley, not only does he have a beautiful jab but the way he creates things off of it is beautiful as well.
Whats everyone think of andre wards jab? or even broader how about he use of the lead arm? almost cuban style, lots of pawing and activity with it.
Mark Antonio Barera had reasonable classical jabbing techniqueQuote:
Originally Posted by hma123
Watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzu4ryw7mLw
There is a huge amount of wisdom and insight in this video. And that is a pro that can't punch much.
Are you joking? LMFAO When I think of Jabs, Mosley is nowhere near my mind..Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by hma123
Shane Mosley, not only does he have a beautiful jab but the way he creates things off of it is beautiful as well.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAre you joking? LMFAO When I think of Jabs, Mosley is nowhere near my mind..Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by hma123
Shane Mosley, not only does he have a beautiful jab but the way he creates things off of it is beautiful as well.
Mosley had a phenominal jab. He didn't dominate fights with it but the way he worked off of it was amazing.
What period of Mosley' career are you referring to? Could you name fights where his jabbing was great? I will study themQuote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAre you joking? LMFAO When I think of Jabs, Mosley is nowhere near my mind..Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by hma123
Shane Mosley, not only does he have a beautiful jab but the way he creates things off of it is beautiful as well.
Mosley had a phenominal jab. He didn't dominate fights with it but the way he worked off of it was amazing.
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Originally Posted by NVSeminWhat period of Mosley' career are you referring to? Could you name fights where his jabbing was great? I will study themQuote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaAre you joking? LMFAO When I think of Jabs, Mosley is nowhere near my mind..Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by hma123
Shane Mosley, not only does he have a beautiful jab but the way he creates things off of it is beautiful as well.
Mosley had a phenominal jab. He didn't dominate fights with it but the way he worked off of it was amazing.
Probably any fight. The jab itself isn't phenominal but the way he works off of it. Its how he creates those sweet ass combos. He keeps that jab pumping and thats what he creates off of.
Lets put the discussion to a hold
I plan to study jabbing more in future, so I will comeback to this thread
I cannot really back up any statement at the moment
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Originally Posted by NVSemin
Mosley's footwork might be the most amazing aspect of his game. With that being said Mosley was at his best when he was pumping his jab and doubling/tripling it up and creating off of it.
I as well am going to go back and study some Mosley, its been awhile since I have watched him.
Could you make some GIFs in gifsoup for instance and post here, illustrating what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSemin
Mosley's footwork might be the most amazing aspect of his game. With that being said Mosley was at his best when he was pumping his jab and doubling/tripling it up and creating off of it.
I as well am going to go back and study some Mosley, its been awhile since I have watched him.
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Originally Posted by NVSeminCould you make some GIFs in gifsoup for instance and post here, illustrating what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by cambay411Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSemin
Mosley's footwork might be the most amazing aspect of his game. With that being said Mosley was at his best when he was pumping his jab and doubling/tripling it up and creating off of it.
I as well am going to go back and study some Mosley, its been awhile since I have watched him.
Ive never done the GIF thing before but I am figuring it out. Until then check out the first De La Hoya fight.
I saw Mosley fight one night at the Forum, early in his career after a long lay-off. He was off, missing punches badly and out of sync. Until he started working his jab. Then he got sharp and started landing punches and knocked his opponent out. I have seen a lot of Mosley, going back to when he was 9 years old, and his jab works real well.
Ricardo Lopez
Forrest had Shanes measure,but Shane was as fast as in this period and would shuffle forwards with a jab and a combo instantly off a reaction while still moving in so there was devastating power and body weight coming in behind the added speed of his jab. Vernon had a solid jab he would stick it then move out from behind it, always did fight more traditional style. I thought he had a real hope in this fight years ago just cause of that (Mosley moving in and Forrest sticking it). I wasnt expecting the uppercuts or for Shane to be put into raw survival mode so early on though, after the knock down for 2 or 3 rounds they both forget their jabs Forresst is rightly trying to blow him out of the water and Mosley is trying to survive.Early in Round 5 you'll see them both return to their usual and it stands out even more in the first half of the round cause they settle.The rest is history from then on Vernon wasnt worried about fighting inside or outside once he landed clean it was on where ever. Shane didnt want to be caught comming forwards again so I dont think he got the chance to relax into his normal mode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzSchHwliNY
Hagler!
Unbelievable what he could do with it alone or a set up for his combinations.