Some may say good riddance. Others may say awww crap.
I am willing to bet my ass that there are people on these forums that used it and probably will be affected.
Whats your view? :confused:
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Some may say good riddance. Others may say awww crap.
I am willing to bet my ass that there are people on these forums that used it and probably will be affected.
Whats your view? :confused:
Definitely sucks for me, it was my go to site lately:p. Not sure why anyone here would say good riddance, unless we have some networks execs in hiding. What is the deal with some of these cheap pay stream sites, are they perfectly legal or could the same thing happen there? Also is the quality feed much better and safe from freezing up etc?
We have heard and it is terrible news for us true boxing cheap ass fans.
Mann I miss how things used to be around 2011.. On a packed fight week, Id wake up very early Saturday morning to watch the British fights on Guru while eating breakfast... Then Id play with my girl for a bit and start drinking beer until the American fights starts at night..
Havent been doing that for awhile.. :(
i used it every time if anyone has an alternative please PM me :(
I second that motion! PM me as well.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by chip
Thanks in advance.
That is a nice dayQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
SAD day, this today, not the day finito described which sounds like a fairly good day.
The City of London are a murky lot. Basically anything goes as long as there is money for them and a masons handshake will seal the deal. Government pervs, banking corruption....all fine. Handshakes and envelopes will settle it, but if you want to watch some boxing on a grainy broken stream? Well we are having none of that. This story is a direct summary of modern Britain.
I would appreciate the pm also
Will this encourage more people to pay for ppv events and subscribe to channels such as Box Nation or will people just look for alternatives?
It would be a good thing ultimately if more money pumped into the sport went towards boxers, gyms, facilities, events etc but my gut feeling tells me that most money goes to the middle man.
I usually do ppv events if its a fight with interest among a few friends, get the beers in stay up late get drunk and watch the boxing. But now i will miss all those fights that i would watch out of curiosity, fighters i never heard of and fighters that are just starting pro etc etc ...
To be fair i think boxingguru actually promoted the sport. Now its gone a lot of people will loose interest.
I've had the piracy argument tons of times before online and in person, and it's always the same thing. People support piracy because they get shit for free, plain and simple, and look at it as a good thing, but it's not. These guys that run the streaming sites are STEALING a product that someone else concieved, bankrolled, and brought to fruition, and they are profiting from that stolen property by spamming you with junk ads.
We've all pirated and streamed before, but there's no way to defend it.
Think the prices for PPV are too high? Then don't buy it. That's your right as a consumer. As a society, we don't get to steal whatever we deem is too expensive. That's silly.
Think you're sticking to "the man" when you pirate? You're not. You're hurting the little guy, because those are the guys who lose their job when the bottom line is lower than expected.
Stealing and giving away the product for free (and making a nice profit of your own through the junk ads on your site) doesn't really fit my definition of promoting the sport. They're leaching off the sport, is more like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
And if people lose interest in the sport because they can no longer steal the product for free, fuck em.
Nobody is going to pay for every single PPV event and subscribe to every channel that shows fights unless you are flush. I am willing to pay money to watch fights that i want to watch. However i am not prepared to pay for every single fight on TV, but i am curious about watching some fights. For example i had no idea who GGG was before the Rosado fight and i would not have ever seen him fight if it wasn't for boxingguru, Now i am prepared to pay to watch GGG's fights.
That's promotion right there however you look at it.
Beanflicker how does a guy who wasn't buying the ppv anyways hurt those who bankrolled it??? He was never going to buy it, him streaming it has no effect on the sales of the ppv, I'm not saying streaming is right but to act like its some crazy evil and akin to physical stealing is wrong. When you physically steal something you take possesion of it and exclude the other person from enjoying that good, when you stream somethin it doesn't affect the enjoyment of others at all
Bean flicker must have some shares in HBO and showtimeQuote:
Originally Posted by armin
Troll talk from Beanz. The fuck is wrong with you?
I dont download any music artist i enjoy so I suppose the same should be said about boxing.
Im sure we have all streamed but its not an enjoyable occasion anyway with all the buffering and ads as already mentioned.
Not to big a deal, there are numerous other sites
Rolles Royce could start giving away their cars, that would be good promotion and publicity, but is it really conducive to profitability and having a strong business model?Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
The "stealing" part was moreso meant for the owners of the streaming sites, who are using someone else's intellectual property to profit from illegally.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
I'm not saying it's a "crazy evil", I understand the differences between piracy and actual theft. I've watched streams just like anyone else. I'm just saying that no good comes from illegally streaming a PPV. It does absolutely no benefit for the sport.
I guess my biggest flaw is not being an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Oh got ya now, that's a sensible view and I can respect it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThe "stealing" part was moreso meant for the owners of the streaming sites, who are using someone else's intellectual property to profit from illegally.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
I'm not saying it's a "crazy evil", I understand the differences between piracy and actual theft. I've watched streams just like anyone else. I'm just saying that no good comes from illegally streaming a PPV. It does absolutely no benefit for the sport.
What about Rolles Royce let us even see the the car before we test drive it and before decide to buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerRolles Royce could start giving away their cars, that would be good promotion and publicity, but is it really conducive to profitability and having a strong business model?Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
I remember when 'streaming' a live fight was calling a far off friend who had cable and having them set the phone on speaker and turn the volume way up ;D
Bean just wants y'all to stop being cheap bastards and pay for the muthfukkin fights. If you got money to eat. You got money to pay for the fightsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterBean flicker must have some shares in HBO and showtimeQuote:
Originally Posted by armin
I think people should pay to watch fights and given the choice I would, but I live in a country where live boxing isn't shown. I imagine many people use streams for similar reasons. It certainly isn't because of image quality and a kinky thing for choppy streams.
It's a shame that the City of London trolls need to go after small things and yet turn a blind eye to massive white collar crime on their doorstep in one of the most corrupt places in the world today. The British stay up until 4am to watch a fight on a choppy stream. Is that what these trolls need to be concentrating on?
Lame. And yet you can watch any of their other sports elsewhere just as easily. It's a battle they cannot win, so I don't know why there are bothering. 'Ooh let's make an example of him'. The only thing worse than criminals are the police themselves who are in scandal after scandal.
They should be closed down. At least Guru was only showing fights.
Something else will pop up... it always pops up.... always...
Google wiziwig boxing and fighting forum.
Also try cricfree.tv.
Wiziwig have a weekly thread with various streamers posting streams for that week so bookmark it and you won't have a problem finding a stream anymore.
That's my first choice for direction. I'll miss guru and nutjob though because of the consistent quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Nutjob was my go-to for boxing and MMA. Great quality.
Only an idiot would think Tim Bradley could knock out Many Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI guess my biggest flaw is not being an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Boxnation is worth £10 per month the fans in the USA, are getting ripped off, and I can understand
people wanting to stream fights.
Remember greedy networks only have them selves to blame,$75 for a PPV that's steep make it
affordable and people with pay.
So carry on streaming chap, some people call it steeling I call it recycling the air waves.;)
10 pounds per month is great value and I don't understand why anybody would use a stream when you have that. 75 dollars for a PPV is just flat out abusive and not reasonable and for that I think a stream is a viable alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
£10 is a good deal if that was all boxing in one bag. But then you have to pay additional for PPV, then Sky Sports, Fox, ESPN, etc
If everyone could pay £10 a month and was guaranteed all fights added to your sports package that would be realistic and fair, and i bet you would see lots more people into boxing.
It needs to be nationalized rather than loads of different capital companies trying to make a buck out of it and fucking it up for the fans.
good use of tax money, since they caught all the murders and rapists, copyright infringement is a serious crime, which effects people and more resources should be spent combating the free market.
copy right is not stealing, it is copying, there is no tangible lossQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Remember money looks after money,!;) the internet is there for everybody not just Sky, HBO PPVQuote:
Originally Posted by boyla
etc but , people feel pissed off paying for ever event under the sun, gone are the days boxing
on the BBC and ITV for free, imagine the viewing figures for Froch V Groves two if it was on ITV
millions would tune in but alas that's a thing of the past.:(
The idea that "stopping piracy will have more money spent on PPV's" is the same outlandish claim the music industry made. More people were happy to spend money on VALUE items. It's why things like Netflix, Spotify and Google Play Music have taken off so well whilst album sales and the likes have stagnated or even shrank.