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Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
now that Manny is back on top again. how many more lame excuses will we get from Mr Mayweather to get out of this potentially historic matchup? its no secret that floyd has been running scared from Manny for years now. real champions fight the best. Bradley isnt the best, but he fought hard and did the best he could, and fought the best! Bradley may have lost, but he has 10 times the heart & class that floyd does.
Maidana is gonna put a hurtin' on floyd, i hope and pray.....
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
I completely agree regarding Pac. Bradley is indeed a good fighter too.
There never was any excuses left anyway, this just humiliates Floyd even further and adds another large gash in his legacy.
As for Maidana, I don't think he's gonna be putting much hurt on Floyd. I think that's gonna go the other way round. Floyd is better than that, he is just scared of putting it all on the line with Pac.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
The same excuse he has had for years he will not fight an Arum fighter.
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Yea that fights not going to happen. I'm a huge floyd fan and even I know something is not right there, he's all about money so why does he not go out and make the most money and fight pacman.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Or what excuse has Pac had all these years for not fighting Floyd? They are both to blame. Mayweather would absolutely destroy Pac. It wouldn't even be close.
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As long as Arum is alive. There will be no fight.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Why do people accept that Golden boy and Top rank fighter won't fight each other, but ignore this with regards to Floyd? Let's face it Floyd may have a better deal and claim co promotion but Flyd is a Golden Boy fighter.
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Floyd can and does do whatever he wANTS.
Have you got him on facebook? He says I'll fight whoever the public chooses and then lists only Marcos and Amir. The abuse came flocking in to fight Pac and he dodged it completely.
That can only say quacker mate!
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Pacquaio has slowed down a bit more than Floyd has, but he's the ONLY one who can give Floyd a run for his money.
Floyd knows this and I'm sure believes he would beat Manny. As do I. But there's a little doubt in Floyd's mind and that is what has largely motivated him to look elsewhere for opponents.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
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Hulk
Pacquaio has slowed down a bit more than Floyd has, but he's the ONLY one who can give Floyd a run for his money.
Floyd knows this and I'm sure believes he would beat Manny. As do I. But there's a little doubt in Floyd's mind and that is what has largely motivated him to look elsewhere for opponents.
That pretty much sums up my exact position on this.
Floyd wants to act like he has already beaten Pac. As far as I'm concerned you cannot go around calling yourself the greatest boxer the world has ever seen if you have avoided fighting the number 2 lb for lb guy, even if it wouldn't be such a competitive fight now!
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I'm shocked peeps. There has been so many floyd nut-huggers on here I thought for sure I would get backlash for voicing my opinions, but it seems I'm not alone in my disgust for Floyds refusal to fight anyone with a good chance of winning.
The sad part is, Floyd more than likely could possibly win and truly cement his legacy in boxing and be the great all time boxer he thinks he is. However....All-Time Greats do not avoid the greatest obstacles in their paths. what a waste.
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Jimanuel Boogustus
As long as Arum is alive. There will be no fight.
Amen.
(And i dont wish bob any ill health)
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
I hear Pac wants full steroid testing and Mayweather is afraid of needles...
I guess that's the new excuse.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Fraud? Lol he's the complete opposite of that.
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Max Power
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Hulk
Pacquaio has slowed down a bit more than Floyd has, but he's the ONLY one who can give Floyd a run for his money.
Floyd knows this and I'm sure believes he would beat Manny. As do I. But there's a little doubt in Floyd's mind and that is what has largely motivated him to look elsewhere for opponents.
That pretty much sums up my exact position on this.
Floyd wants to act like he has already beaten Pac. As far as I'm concerned you cannot go around calling yourself the greatest boxer the world has ever seen if you have avoided fighting the number 2 lb for lb guy, even if it wouldn't be such a competitive fight now!
P4p number 2 is andre ward.
Are we saying that pac is better than marquez?..or did that horrific ko not happen?..is pac still above old man marquez.?
We all know this makes the most money for floyd but the haters cant seem to understand that floyd has never fought a top rank fighter since leaving!!
Lets just ignore the real reason why floyd and pac havent fought as its easier to call floyd a chicken and a runner and scared of southpaws etc.
Nothing has changed after this fight with bradley and nothing ever will!
If bradley beat pac last night he still wouldnt be able to fight floyd because of bob arum convienient contract...jeez.
It suits manny not to fight floyd as his next few fights are going to make him look even more superior against more top rank opponents...
Pac vs rios 2?
Pac vs marquez 5?
Pac vs bradley 3?
Pac vs clotty 2 (catchweight)?
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Well your lame excuses and twisting of the blatant obvious to rescue your hero boy Floyd are not worth even mentioning but sure, Pac ain't the number 2 anymore but he has been historically considered the unsorted business of Floyd.
Marquez might be better but Floyd PROVED he could beat Marquez.
Andre Ward is beyond Floyd and Pac in weight.
Floyd cannot use triangulation to claim a nominal victory over PAc without a fight, that's BS!
There are no impediments for the fight except that Floyd doesn't want it. They have been CALLING HIM OUT!
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Max Power
Well your lame excuses and twisting of the blatant obvious to rescue your hero boy Floyd are not worth even mentioning but sure, Pac ain't the number 2 anymore but he has been historically considered the unsorted business of Floyd.
Marquez might be better but Floyd PROVED he could beat Marquez.
Andre Ward is beyond Floyd and Pac in weight.
Floyd cannot use triangulation to claim a nominal victory over PAc without a fight, that's BS!
There are no impediments for the fight except that Floyd doesn't want it. They have been CALLING HIM OUT!
They are worth mentioning as its facts.
I dont need to rescue anyone.
Was marquez with top rank when they fought?
My issues have never been with pac it has always been top rank.
I dont need to call pac a chicken because no matter what freddie or pac say they are puppets and have no control over anything...bob arum controls everything they do..
I want to see the fight as much as you do but the problem still remains that manny is a top rank fighter!
Ignore pac saying he wants 50-50 and turned down 40 million
Ignore pac saying he is scared of needles
Ignore everything that he says because he cant make anything happen apart from what he does in the ring.
Is pac the best fight for floyd right now or even 5 years ago?
YES.
Manny did a good job last night and its great that he is putting that devastating ko behind him AND i hope he has another prime opponent in his next bout.
Im just tired of all the bickering.
Its pathetic.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
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powerpuncher
Or what excuse has Pac had all these years for not fighting Floyd? They are both to blame. Mayweather would absolutely destroy Pac. It wouldn't even be close.
Here here Bud . .couldn't have put it better myself . . Paq
is a great fighter no doubt about it . . But I believe that Floyd would do as he liked in a fight with paq before he eventually stops him . . Floyd is maybe a victim of his own success. . But far too good for pac man.-
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He'll probably say they can't do it without 6 months of promotions
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That his little cut can't heal in 7 months
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That they need a new stadium
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That he doesn't know who to negotiate with
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Tell the media he will accept one amount then demand a higher percentage in actual talks
Oh wait.....
Anyone that thinks one side to blame is daft and frankly dishonest. They each improve the others PPVs as long as the possibility is looming next. If the fight they get one big payday, if they don't fight they get many big paydays. You can only kill a sheep once but you can shear a sheep.....
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Ok Imp, I have one question then,
What does Bob Arum have to say on the matter?
I always hear everybody bag Arum about this shit but I've not seen any statements made from him directly.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
@imp
It seems Arum's position is in line with Freddie, Pac and the rest of the world
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/here-s-...00-boxing.html
Only Mayweather promotions seem to be eluding the big fight from what I'm seeing!
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
Manny is past his best.
But I do not find maywether a exciting fighter, he is boring.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
10 years ago this was a 50 million dollar fight.
I do not think Manny has ducked floyd, I can not say with certainty Floyd has ducked Manny, but he has successfully avoided him and made a lot of money, Floyd is not a active fighter, but has been very successful at what he does.
I do not even see this as a entertaining fight, maybe 5-7 years ago, but not now.
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Max Power
Ok Imp, I have one question then,
What does Bob Arum have to say on the matter?
I always hear everybody bag Arum about this shit but I've not seen any statements made from him directly.
I'm on my mobile so I can't do a link but if you go back a little ways it's not hard to find pieces where Bob says he is not even accepting calls from GBP. And Shaeffer confirmed, Bob would neither accept nor return his calls. Bob started the "I won't work with..."stance. Floyd just used Bobs play against him. You can see this over and over like a game of frickin ping pong. Remember when Floyd said he was fighting May 5th and Pac could be the opponent but Bob gave the whole "who is he to tell Manny when...." fake rant? If you recall it was only about 5 months earlier Bob did the whole "countdown clock". Bob does it then Floyd doees it, Bob does it then Floyd does it. You can even watch the years go by and whoever wants to fight goes back and forth. Late 09 early 10 Floyd had the 50/50 contract out there. 11 Floyd wasn't negotiating. 12 was when Floyd was pushing for it but the cut err stadium err needs 6 months promotion errr. 13 would have been Mannys year to push for it but he got sparked so it's a nothing year. So here we are 14 Manny says he wants it but he becomes Floyds mandatory and he immediately takes the one fight that will remove him from being Floyds mandatory. Keep in mind that "I don't need a rematch with Bradley", suddenly he does. It's clear as day both sides are playing the fans and fans are bliind to the fact they are remembering what they want and ignoringg the rest. I can list dozens of reasons not to fight frim either side, reasons they've made up. Both sides
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Lol at this thread. Look even if you believe FLOYD WAS SCARED four years ago when this traveling circus started what exactly did you people see last night to suggest he still is? Please explain based on Manny's performance last night what Floyd needs to be scared of. I'll say it again slowly.
I f i t w a s a n y t h i n g o t h e r t h e n b a d b l o o d b e t w e e n F l o y d a n d A r u m a n d b a s e d o n M a n n y ' s p e r f o r m a n c e l a s t n i g h t , F l o y d w o u l d b e o n
M a n n y ' s d o o r s t e p.
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Max Power
Max,
Listen, i could say the same crap bob or freddie say..its words...no action..stop jumping on the train and believing this rubbish!
None of us are aware what is going on behind the scenes.
When i hear from leonard ellerbe or al haymon its on..its on!
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
But, and also sad to say, the PAc 5 years ago- even though he whooped Rios and Bradley just recently, soundly and was beating the living shit out of JMM before he got ko'd- is not the same fighter we see now.
It's an easy win for Floyd if he faces Pac now... you can tell, it just isn't there.
The Pac that destroyed DLH and nearly killed Morales and Barerra, just isn't the same guy...
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
I love Floyd but... Its not about what the fans want because we have wanted this for quite some time and the fans wanted Khan but Money shrugged that off also. Manny has now agreed to whatever terms that Floyd has put out there including the random drug screening and the 40 million deal. I do not like Arum but I think this is something that can be worked around because if Don King and Arum can work together then so can GBP and Top Rank. Anyways here is my list of other long shot excuses for these 2 not to meet.
1.Floyd will say he does not want to fight any Asians unless they are Chinese or Japanese.
2.He will no longer fight southpaws.
3. He has started his own religion and does not want to start a holy war.
4. Justin Bieber and Floyd Sr. said no.
5. Manny has to fight Khan, JMM and Bradley on the same night and then maybe.
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The majority of fans wanted maidana and said khan didnt deserve it after his last performance..
If he would have picked khan then floyd would have got the same abuse..then hes labelled a fraud by some posters..jeez
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The Fans want it, have been calling for it for so many years, both parties are guilty of not providing it too us, such a shame as now it wont be as good, both fighters are past there primes.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
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imp
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Originally Posted by
Max Power
Max,
Listen, i could say the same crap bob or freddie say..its words...no action..stop jumping on the train and believing this rubbish!
None of us are aware what is going on behind the scenes.
When i hear from leonard ellerbe or al haymon its on..its on!
Fair enough @imp.
Words are just words, nothing concrete.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
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#1FightFan
I'm shocked peeps. There has been so many floyd nut-huggers on here I thought for sure I would get backlash for voicing my opinions, but it seems I'm not alone in my disgust for Floyds refusal to fight anyone with a good chance of winning.
The sad part is, Floyd more than likely could possibly win and truly cement his legacy in boxing and be the great all time boxer he thinks he is. However....All-Time Greats do not avoid the greatest obstacles in their paths. what a waste.
This is where you argument fails. Pac doesn't have a good chance of winning. He has really no chance
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#1Fightfan here picks every single guy Floyd fights to beat him, and yet he's still a fraud after all these years;D
I don't see how anything will have possibly changed regarding Floyd-Manny, I don't think Manny made a big statement last night, and most boxing fans must be sick of seriously giving a rats about the negotiations. The trouble for me is, if Floyd beats Maidana with ease, he doesn't really have much else out there in the way of a serious fight. I can't see him wanting to face say Lara at 154 over Pacquiao no matter how much he spites old Bob, and I'm not sure what other credible fight would even be out there.
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Re: Now what lame excuses will lil Fraud Mayweather have to NOT fight Manny???
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p4pking
#1Fightfan here picks every single guy Floyd fights to beat him, and yet he's still a fraud after all these years;D
I don't see how anything will have possibly changed regarding Floyd-Manny, I don't think Manny made a big statement last night, and most boxing fans must be sick of seriously giving a rats about the negotiations. The trouble for me is, if Floyd beats Maidana with ease, he doesn't really have much else out there in the way of a serious fight. I can't see him wanting to face say Lara at 154 over Pacquiao no matter how much he spites old Bob, and I'm not sure what other credible fight would even be out there.
no, i dont pick every opponent to win. because i know all about floyds BULLSHIT tactics of running/potshotting, cheating, and the corrupt judges on his side giving gift decisions like Castillo/Mayweather 1, which was a LOSS, no matter what anyone says. IT'S CALLED HOPING AND PRAYING - THAT SOMEONE CAN GET PAST HIS BS AND KO THE THUG POS." Hopefully" Maidana can do it.
credible fights? Lara, Martinez, GGG, if floyds so great why not move up in weight, instead of fighting smaller guys. lol
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No way Mayweather steps into boxing arena with Pacquiao's mom present to cast a voodoo hex on him.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...w3VuVn0ZU-I_uQ
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fan johnny
That would put any fighter off!
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#1FightFan
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p4pking
#1Fightfan here picks every single guy Floyd fights to beat him, and yet he's still a fraud after all these years;D
I don't see how anything will have possibly changed regarding Floyd-Manny, I don't think Manny made a big statement last night, and most boxing fans must be sick of seriously giving a rats about the negotiations. The trouble for me is, if Floyd beats Maidana with ease, he doesn't really have much else out there in the way of a serious fight. I can't see him wanting to face say Lara at 154 over Pacquiao no matter how much he spites old Bob, and I'm not sure what other credible fight would even be out there.
no, i dont pick every opponent to win. because i know all about floyds BULLSHIT tactics of running/potshotting, cheating, and the corrupt judges on his side giving gift decisions like Castillo/Mayweather 1, which was a LOSS, no matter what anyone says. IT'S CALLED HOPING AND PRAYING - THAT SOMEONE CAN GET PAST HIS BS AND KO THE THUG POS." Hopefully" Maidana can do it.
credible fights? Lara, Martinez, GGG, if floyds so great why not move up in weight, instead of fighting smaller guys. lol
smaller fighters? floyd has been fighting bigger fighters than him for years now for the most part. floyd is almost always the smaller fighter. im sure that maidana walks around heavier than floyd.
