Kev looks like a middle lol. Hop Joshua has a chin although in this lame ass hev division he probably wont need one.
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Kev looks like a middle lol. Hop Joshua has a chin although in this lame ass hev division he probably wont need one.
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Dont like like Joshua is built for taking shots to the body. Mitchell looks wider at the waist!
Yes Joshua would be much better at taking body shots if he looked like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
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People with a bit of flab around the mid rift are generally better at taking body shots then guys who are ripped
That is true SilkyJoe... dammm my boy Mitchell is beastin it!
Yes people like Holyfield , Bruno , Wlad , Haye were all dropped multiple times with body shots because of their low body fat count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Im not 100% sure but think its to do with certain positions around your body where there are little to no muscle where fat gives a bit of extra paddingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes people like Holyfield , Bruno , Wlad , Haye were all dropped multiple times with body shots because of their low body fat count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Twat...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes people like Holyfield , Bruno , Wlad , Haye were all dropped multiple times with body shots because of their low body fat count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Holyfield was known for not liking body shots. Thats how Toney put him down;D:rolleyes:
Also, I'm not on about body fat but the actual mass there. Compare his thin waist to Mitchells thicker trunk. Joshua has to take heavyweight power on his waist.
Interesting how people look at the same thing and are drawn to different aspects. Joshua is alarmingly thin at the waist but I never would have noticed because I couldn't get past that crane neck. It has to be impossible to tuck your chin when you're neck is 8 inches long.
I forgot about the 41 year old Holyfield getting stopped with body shots for the only time in his career , silly me.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossTwat...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes people like Holyfield , Bruno , Wlad , Haye were all dropped multiple times with body shots because of their low body fat count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Holyfield was known for not liking body shots. Thats how Toney put him down;D:rolleyes:
Also, I'm not on about body fat but the actual mass there. Compare his thin waist to Mitchells thicker trunk. Joshua has to take heavyweight power on his waist.
Funny, I recall Holyfield getting stopped because he fucked up his shoulder fighting Toney...but hey I mean it's not like he had just had surgery on that same left shoulder prior to the bout vs Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Smaller waist means less area to land a flush shot on....whereas you have a waist like Butterbean that is a mighty large target
Can he fight much ???
Well we will have to wait and see , however he is at least in great shape not a flabby bastard like many other British HW'S.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Dont worry we all know your knowlEdge of boxing starts and ends with the Klitschkos;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongFunny, I recall Holyfield getting stopped because he fucked up his shoulder fighting Toney...but hey I mean it's not like he had just had surgery on that same left shoulder prior to the bout vs Toney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Smaller waist means less area to land a flush shot on....whereas you have a waist like Butterbean that is a mighty large target
Yeah... It must have been Holyfields own shoulder that threw him to the deck:rolleyes:;D
Well we do know for certain Holyfield had surgery on his shoulder after the loss to Chris Byrd and then his excuses for looking poor vs Toney and Larry Donald were that his shoulder was still fucked upQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
But hey whatever you say, it's not like Holyfield was 42 when he fought those guys and I'm certain age had 0 to do with how you take a punch regardless of how in shape you are
No I clearly remember him saying that he just couldn't keep up with Toneys speed and that he couldn't pull the trigger. He said he could see what he needed to do but wasn't quick enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell we do know for certain Holyfield had surgery on his shoulder after the loss to Chris Byrd and then his excuses for looking poor vs Toney and Larry Donald were that his shoulder was still fucked upQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
But hey whatever you say, it's not like Holyfield was 42 when he fought those guys and I'm certain age had 0 to do with how you take a punch regardless of how in shape you are
For max power, this was an old middleweight as well. Another fighter who moved up and beat good big men with skill, not size;)
Joshua looks the part for sure , I hope he has the skills and chin to back up his impressive athleticism .
Joshua can be better and greater than Lennox. He had a better, tougher start than Lennox. The only thing with Joshua is that he isn't a crisp enough puncher as Lewis was when Lewis first started.
Lewis, from the am's, could throw a straight up punch like a pro. Josh ain't there yet. He's Bruno-esque.... hehehehe....
Joshua is too stiff of a boxer to beat what Lennox Lewis accomplished, he may end up being better than Frank Bruno but I would guess that's probably his ceiling. The good news is Frank Bruno would be a big time serious challenger these days and once Wlad retires, a possible champion. Joshua should still try to relax a bit more in the ring.
He is a dead ringer in the face to a hulked up Demetrius Andrade ;D. Certainly hope his legs are not as stiff in the ring as they are here. Be interesting to see him progress
Kevin Mitchell will still not manage to win a world title no matter how many muscles he puts on. As for Joshua...well...lets see how he copes when he's in a real fight...
Stop smokin that shit.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I see they got the good steroids in the UK
Fat definitely helps with punch resistance as would a thicker set waist for body shots. But I think Joshua's middle is still extremely strong and durable, I think it's the proportions of the rest of him that give a underwhelming appearance of his waist. Being tall he should be able to avoid too much body damage anyway if he develops into a technical fighter.
Fuck they both look strong though, forces to be reckoned with there. I wonder how they're going to cover that up come testing time lol
Also I'd be surprised if Kev could make the LW limit anymore looking like that!
If that's a lightweight these days fuck me! lol
Joshua looks like a typical black guy who goes to the gym.. Black guys dont have to work out as much to get cut so im not impressed.. It's in their genes..
Mitchell looks to be in great shape..
Joshua has nowhere near the pedigree that Lewis had. That will probably be his limiting factor career wise!Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaStop smokin that shit.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
For some reason everybody thinks that a muscle bound 6'5"+ boxer these days is automatically in the running to be the next dominant champ!
PRoblem is most of those guys were late starters in the sport and turned pro with limited ammy experience.
Big guys like Wladimir, Vitali, Lennox and Bowe were great because they were born and bred boxers from the start!