Fighters who had a major weakness/flaw that kept them from greatness
Frank Bruno - Stamina
Pavlik - Footwork
Paul Williams - Fighting "small"
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Ike Ibeabuchi - psychological problems
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Terry Norris: chin
Julian Jackson: chin
Mike Mcallum: charisma
Riddick Bowe: discipline
Ricardo Lopez: 50lbs of bodyweight or a boxing public who appreciated skill n toughness over size n mindless violence
Donald Curry:chin
Rafael Ruelas: intelligence in the ring + chin
Gabe Ruelas: a ref n opposite corner that had a clue n would've stopped his fight vs Garcia sooner
Bert Cooper: willpower
Meldrick Taylor: less balls vs Chavez
Jermain Taylor: confidence after the Hop fights...
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Mike Tyson would of gone down as the greatest of all time if he was focused and dedicated himself to the craft of boxing rather that throwing it away with hookers, drugs and beating up women.
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Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.
He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
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FinitoElDinamita
Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.
He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
You do understand why he acted like that right?
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FinitoElDinamita
Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.
He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
You do understand why he acted like that right?
Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.
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El Kabong
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FinitoElDinamita
Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.
He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
You do understand why he acted like that right?
Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.
For Joe Louis YES ! He was the second black heavyweight champion and Jack Johnson kind of ruined it for Joe. He was expected to act a certain way.
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El Kabong
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FinitoElDinamita
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El Kabong
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FinitoElDinamita
Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.
He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
You do understand why he acted like that right?
Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.
For Joe Louis YES ! He was the second black heavyweight champion and Jack Johnson kind of ruined it for Joe. He was expected to act a certain way.
Ic. So he was Mr Personality underneath it all yet he acted wooden because he was expected to. Lol
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Considering this is boxing that could be any fighter plagued with a bad chin!
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Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.
His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
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James Toney - discipline. Not that Toney didn't achieve greatness, but he could have been much more if he just kept his goddamn weight in check.
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Also people use chin a lot, but I think if Khan had even a respectable chin he could be the #1 guy.
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Jorge Linares - cuts easily
Emmanuel Steward once said that Linares was the best fighter he has ever seen..
Along with Leonard, Finito, and Marquez, Linares is also one of the greatest boxer ive seen in my era...
Words cant describe how enjoyable it is to watch Linares ... had he not been so fragile, he could have gone down as the best FW-SFW of all time and a top 10 ATG fighter..
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Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.
His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
Finito, he is right. Joe was a raver and had plenty of women but it was all kept under tabs. He was told never to gloat over a fighter he knocked out which is why he looked stone faced. Johnson ruined it for a lot of black fighters, at the lower weights it was ok to be champion but not at heavyweight.
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Well the funny thing now is that the people would rather have bad mouthing black guy and have him be a thug from ghetto in US. Now all we have are these white guys who look the same are doctors and help people around the world and they get shit for not having personality how times have changed.
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Well the funny thing now is that the people would rather have bad mouthing black guy and have him be a thug from ghetto in US. Now all we have are these white guys who look the same are doctors and help people around the world and they get shit for not having personality how times have changed.
So true....
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Well the funny thing now is that the people would rather have bad mouthing black guy and have him be a thug from ghetto in US. Now all we have are these white guys who look the same are doctors and help people around the world and they get shit for not having personality how times have changed.
Boxing is a gladiator sport where the loud mouth, thug types fit right in.. They are the ones who create excitement in this sport..
If Wlad had personality, I bet people would be more forgiving of his boring style..
That's how Floyd became the #1 cash cow ..
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El Kabong
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Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.
His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
Finito, he is right. Joe was a raver and had plenty of women but it was all kept under tabs. He was told never to gloat over a fighter he knocked out which is why he looked stone faced. Johnson ruined it for a lot of black fighters, at the lower weights it was ok to be champion but not at heavyweight.
Joe Louis pretty much was a white man with dark skin
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El Kabong
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Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.
His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
Finito, he is right. Joe was a raver and had plenty of women but it was all kept under tabs. He was told never to gloat over a fighter he knocked out which is why he looked stone faced. Johnson ruined it for a lot of black fighters, at the lower weights it was ok to be champion but not at heavyweight.
Joe Louis pretty much was a white man with dark skin
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