Who has the better traits as a fighter and who would win at their best?
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Who has the better traits as a fighter and who would win at their best?
Vitali would win. He is tougher and would take it to Wlad who is more fluid and a better boxer but weak and will fall a part with the first sign of a concerted attack.
I agree.. One of the many things that I learned about brotherhood is that the big brother always has the psychological advantage because he's used to kicking the younger one's ass while growing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
With both of them being elite fighters, Vitali will always kick wlad's ass..
Yes big brother syndrome would ensure a victory but even if they were not brothers he would still win. There is no way Wlad could take the beating Lennox put on Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI agree.. One of the many things that I learned about brotherhood is that the big brother always has the psychological advantage because he's used to kicking the younger one's ass while growing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
With both of them being elite fighters, Vitali will always kick wlad's ass..
I think it's a pretty even affair. Wlad is technically better but as said already the elder brother had better fighting heart and was definitely more durable, he could rough it up when he needed too.
In Vitali's second innings though I think Wlad could have beaten him, Wlad seemed unbeatable since then and Vitali noticably not quite as good as he was.
But best vs best I would have to tip Vitali. Wlad's holding and defensive jab routines would not work against him and he'd definitely be getting belted lots from another very big man who can take his punch also.
I agree, Wlad is a much better boxer, a better technician with a superb jab. However, Vitali was a fighter to the bottom of his soul, teak tough with a granite chin and very strong and durable.
The big question "what would happen if Wlad fought someone as big as he is, who would not be intimidated and who would be strong enough to rough him up and not allow himself to be held and leaned on?" proudly be answered.
Vitali would bully him and Wlad would panic up close. The jabs and big right would just bounce off Vitali and I see a mid rounds stoppage as soon a Vitali can close the distance and start busting Wlad up
Possibility of being the worst fight ever. These two love, respect, and only want the best for each other. They'd probably be doing as little as possible in an effort to let their brother win. Possibly a first round KO with a phantom punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
The fight you want to see would never have happened, not in public anyway.
Hypothetical fights? Your favorite fighters always win and the fighter you dislike always loses. That's how it has been and that's how it will always be. They should be in your Amazon.com account wish list instead.;D
I dunno, I'm a big Muhammad Ali fan, but I think he would have lost a hypothetical rematch against George Foreman.
I love Rocky Marciano, but don't think he would have got to 49-0 if he had fought the young Sonny Liston?
I think Ali beats Foreman in the rematch too it was not as if he was losing the original fight in Zaire.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Good to see you back, Finito.
Are we talking about them as brothers facing each other? Or, if they weren't related, and with the same traits?
It's great to be Vitali and be propped up by Wlads accomplishments.
Wlad had the better kickboxing career but "Vitali was better"
Wlad had the far more successful amateur boxing career but "Vitali was better"
Wlad had an even greater gulf between his pro career and Vitali but "Vitali was better"
The guy that routinely far exceeded the other is always lesser because this guy thinks and that guy thinks. Shows you that what you actually do is completely fucking irrelevant. You want to know why fighters look for paydays rather than actual glory take a good long look in the mirror because you have made genuine accomplishment irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Nah. Although you are correct in that Wlad has the better all around performance, in a hypothetical battle against Vitali, we need to compare the positive and negative traits of each man. It just so happens that Vitali has the right positive traits to be a nightmare for Wladimir. Slightly bigger, solid chin, awkward, and with a decent punch. I just can't see Wladimir being victorious.
Obviously this is considering if they were to fight each other as if they were not actually brothers. I'm just looking at the traits.
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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
It's a bumped up thread.
Finito is kaput, terminated, acabado, gone, yesterday's news... well..... finito.
Yes, Wlad has a great jab. I always thought he and Floyd throw the best jabs in boxing. I was surprised how poorly he used it in this last fight.Kind of stuck it out there leaving it. Strange for someone with such a great jab. I think betwixt he and Vitali it would be a family hug fest, probably worse than the povodkin fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
It would be like the williams sisters playing a tennis match, they have been rubbish.
Vitali all day. Cue Lyle to come in and point out Wlad is the much better boxer. Vitali never lost badly like Wlad, Vitali's two losses were when he was up on the cards and got injured. I do think Lennox may have stopped him though.
For Durability reasons, i'd go for Vitali. But i wouldn't be surprised if Wlad's lead hand ended up making Vitali's face look like Hamburger meat
I've got Vitali on brass and bulk as well. They call them big brothers for a reason. He'd force exchanges after that 'buffering' jab of Wlad and when lil bro depends on the tie up/clutch/brothers hug/ crap he does inside.
This is getting complicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Me too, unless they rewired Foreman's brain to get rid of that bullheaded streak. A man who names all of his son's with the same name, isn't someone you are apt to win an argument with, so I'm thinking he comes back with same dumb ass fight plan in the 'second' fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Ali beats Foreman in the rematch too it was not as if he was losing the original fight in Zaire.Quote:
Originally Posted by X