Just curious to see if anyone here is picking Maidana for the W.
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Just curious to see if anyone here is picking Maidana for the W.
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You know how professional poker players say amateurs are the hardest to get a read on? They tend to overplay and or underplay certain hands, and are subsequently unpredictable? That is Maidana's chance, he is so far out of Floyd's league that he just may hit Floyd with something that he doesn't expect. Significantly less then a punchers chance, really. In fact his power is being way over valued leading up to this fight.
im picking maidana to land a punch
No, for several reasons.
I don't think this is a complete gimme like most people think. Maidana is a rough customer who hits hard and is relentless, and Floyd isn't as fast of hand and feet as he once was, so I can see Maidana crowding Mayweather and making it rough for him.
A few things that make Maidana and interesting fight is that he's a lot grittier and more relentless than the guys Floyd has been fighting as of late. I don't see him giving up mentally, because he's used to being the slower guy in there who has to eat 3 or 4 punches to land 1. He is also a lot more unorthodox in his punching than guys like Canelo, and we saw that in the Broner fight. The shots he hurt Broner with were all from crazy angles, or punches that changed trajectory mid-flight. He's very effective on the inside and throws from crazy angles, so guaranteed he will land on Floyd on the inside if Floyd choses to go into a shell in front of him.
Other than that, I just don't think Maidana quite has the one-punch power needed to catch and blast Mayweather out of there. He might hurt him ala Mosley, but Floyd has showed a fantastic chin and ability to remain calm under duress, so even if Maidana hurts him I don't see him being able to close the show.
And as clever as Maidana can be with his power shots, he really only has one gear, and if he's tagging Floyd with any consistency in the early rounds, Floyd is intelligent enough to make the adjustments (unlike stupid Broner).
I'm looking forward to the fight, I'm hoping that Maidana can make Floyd uncomfortable in there, land some blows and maybe a couple of elbows, make it a street fight. And there's always that possibility that Floyd gets old overnight and all of a sudden his reflexes and punch resistance are diminished and Maidana cashes in a lottery ticket ala Antonio Tarver.
This is the Broner vs Maidana fight all over again, all of us are picking Floyd, and some of us are secretly hoping Maidana gets lucky.
No secret about it, I'm really hoping Maidana gets lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Do you mean throw one?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
To put it in perspective, the odds for Canelo-Mayweather were 2-1 or 3-1 for Mayweather. The odds for Maidana-Mayweather, with Maidana coming off arguably the biggest victory of his career are 13-1 for Mayweather. This is the definition of a gimme fight. I don't see any way Chino wins. Mayweather might actually get his first stoppage since Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
By the way, did anyone notice Floyd is making $32 MM for this fight and Chino is making $1.5? How much did Marcos make for his fight against Broner?
Well, besides the obvious fact that Vegas odds makers are far from infallible and odds don't really accurately represent the dangers of fighting an elite level boxer, I think the odds difference can be explained largely by the fact that Canelo was the much bigger man who Floyd was moving up to fight, and was also undefeated.
Maidana is a rough customer and he's not going to quit or beat himself in there. He's going to come out firing and make Mayweather work. This is not a "gimme" fight. The odds would have been equally bad (or at least close to it) if it was Khan fighting him as well. It's just a testament to how dominant Floyd is in the sport.
I think $800,000 but I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I don't think Maidana is any tougher or grittier than Robert Guerrero or Canelo, and the latter guy would clearly kill him. Watch his fight with Alexander, he was totally lost in there and looked just like those guys did fighting Floyd. I give him virtually zero chance here as well.
I think Maidana's power is being over hyped. I don't think he is a KO artist at 147 at all. The Broner fight isn't a great barometer either...Broner had no business at 147 so quickly, he is much easier to hit than Floyd, and even though Maidana stunned Broner...he by no means BADLY hurt him.
No but we are all hoping.
The last time I picked against Mayweather was vs Hatton :-X In fool disclosure I was also a daily user of high grade marijuana and the occasional and very accidental hallucinogen. If Maidana pulls a miracle I will love it, I'll also piss myself to the point of my bladder exploding. I just cannot see it all aligning for him.
Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I'm not even picking chino to win a round.
Did any1 see the face off sounds as if this could be maywathers last fight.
Yes we are hoping. It's just a shame a lot of us are going to drop a good amount of money to see what we hope will be an almost impossible upset. Maidana isn't a bad fighter but I think he will look like an amateur facing Floyd. I would love to know what's goin through his mind. What does he think he can do that 45 others haven't done. I think he is going to get flabbergasted with Floyd's movement and he may spend a lot of time looking for one punch.
I have spent sometime reading articles and opinions on the fight and I have not come accross any That think Maidana will be victorious. They all talk about Chinos history of pulling of upsets which is true but this is Floyd he is fighting, I don't think it will.happen Saturday night.
Does anyone else think I'm right that Chino will get frustrated early in the fight and spend his time looking for that one punch.
I hate watching lopsided fights but Floyd is amazing to watch. I am always impressed with his jab. I think he has the best jab of anyone currently fighting. It allows him to control so much if the fight. I think Floyd is dying to give his fans a kO or stoppage as that is one critique I hear even from the Floydboys. It is possible that Chino will get frustrated and wild and Floyd could actually get at least at stoppage.
Anyway, I'll be watching the fight to see Floyd's jab and hoping for a miracle from Chino
The only time Chino can get a lucky punch, like those awkward overhands, is as always in the first 2-3 rounds. Guerrero gave Floyd a fair bit of trouble in the very early part of the fight, after which it was all downhill, of course.
Not me.
Why are you hoping Maidana wins??Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Aren't you American??
I bet Argentines aren't hoping Floyd wins.
Why do Americans want another American to lose???Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You guys are the ONLY people on the planet that pulls against your own countrymen.
You best believe there aren't any Argentines pulling for Mayweather.
I'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.
On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.
People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.
What would be an "easy win" for you? For my money, Canelo was not an "easy win," nor was Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.
On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.
People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.
Guerrero, Ortiz and Baldomir were easy fights for a champion like Mayweather. Those aren't easy fights for most other people, but for Mayweather, they're easy fights.
Lepai beat up Boystov who was a world-level competitor to get himself into the ring with Wlad. Lepai is a relatively accomplished professional, but, I'm sorry, that was an easy fight for Wlad. Lepai is still a big Samoan with a big punch, but the outcome was predetermined. Maidana is a tougher opponent in a p4p sense than Lepai, but he's an easy opponent nonetheless.
Maidana presents nothing Floyd hasn't seen before. There is no suspense as to what the outcome will be like there was at least a little bit with Canelo. He's not faster; he doesn't punch harder; he's not smarter; he's not bigger; and he's not more technically savvy than Floyd's previous opponents. In every single category you would look at to compare with Mayweather, Maidana loses.
Maidana was a tough outing for Broner, but so was Paulie. Broner is no Mayweather.
I'm looking forward to the fight, I have a feeling Maidana is going to prove himself worthy to be in there. I don't think he'll win, but I think he'll make a fight out of it.
I think he'll do better than Canelo... and you can quote me on that!
VIVA ARGENTINA!!!
You are getting excited about nothing, this is a slow and hand-picked opponent and if Floyd does not stop him then it is a poor performance. You can quote me on that too. ;)
But if you want to know what I call an easy fight... look no further than Broner's opponent. A guy with limited experience on the world stage, a guy who's been inactive for two years, doesn't have a big punch, and has no momentum.
An easy opponent is a guy you can bring your B or C game to and still win. An easy opponent is a tune-up, a night off, a keep busy fight to look good in.
I don't view Maidana as an easy opponent for anyone because of his power, his tenacity, his unorthodox power punching style and his experience on the world stage. I don't believe he's a guy that's a night off, or a guy who you can go up against after a half-assed camp. If you sleep on this guy, he's going to knock you out, and that goes for anyone, even Floyd.
So that's my answer. I predict Floyd will beat him because Floyd never comes in half assed and always brings his A-game, which is a big reason why he's gone 18 years without a loss. I just don't see him as an easy night for Floyd, and I don't think Victor Ortiz was an easy fight for Floyd either.
What are you telling me for, Tweet that to Floyd immediately. I'm sure that information would be of the highest value to him. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Maidana isn't a jr MW like Canelo....he won't be able to take those shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
We said the same thing about your mother but you'd be amazed at what a person can do when they have the pressure of a large group of people watchin HAHAHAHHAAHQuote:
Originally Posted by cyclone
VIVA ARGENTINA!!!
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerWe said the same thing about your mother but you'd be amazed at what a person can do when they have the pressure of a large group of people watchin HAHAHAHHAAHQuote:
Originally Posted by cyclone
VIVA ARGENTINA!!!
Smashup is on a packed train laughing loud as I read that hahahaha
Do not get sarcastic with me, you know what I say is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerWhat are you telling me for, Tweet that to Floyd immediately. I'm sure that information would be of the highest value to him. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
On that basis, you would look forward to any fight with Maidana in it, which is a fair point because he's fun to watch, but some fights are so one-sided even with a fun fighter, they're just not good fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I'll go on the record to say that Maidana will gradually get broken down and stopped late or lose badly on the cards just as the odds makers predicted. It'll be more fun than the Canelo fight because he'll push the action but the beat down will be worse.
Maidana would be a fine opponent for Mayweather if Mayweather was coming off a loss. Coming off a good win, he's just not good.
What has Maidana done at welterweight anyway?