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Robert Garcia seems to think so
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Absolutely not.. He could accomplish as much as Kimbo Slice or butterbean
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Depends on the definition of "make it". If that means make good money, yes, his celebrity could get him some nice paydays. Boxing fans would tune in to see the MMA guy get starched and MMA fans would tune in hoping to say "see how good we are, and we can kick, knee, elbow, wrestle and use BJJ". The money is there.
But he absolutely could not be a top guy. There is a huge gap between good MMA hands and good boxing hands. A chasm.
I don't think he could be a success in boxing but he is so far beyond Buttbean and Kimbo Slice they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I think if you brought the subject up to him, he would laugh in your face. He is big, bad and Mexican he is not stupid.
Don't think he has a chance in hell now, but who knows what would have happened if he had started out in boxing...
Well the thing that Cain has going for him is he's a freak athlete who picks up things VERY quickly, and his cardio is insane even by athlete standards.
That's not his sport though. He's a wrestler first and foremost.
He is the baddest man on the planet right now though. In a REAL fight, he would kill any boxer.
I'm sure can be WBU or WBB champion. That's about it
When's he fighting Tyson Fury lol
Cain could become a fringe contender in much the same way Deontay Wilder has.
Does the guy have power? Sure
Does he know how to throw punches? For an MMA guy yeah
Is he in good shape? Yeah
Now for the stuff he would have to worry about: chin, strategy, and technique
Lets not undermine Wilder so easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
In a boxing match he'd KO Cain in a round. Or he could masterfully outbox him if he wanted to. Shannon Briggs would do the same to him.
Cain is a killer and great athlete. But, he's the best all around heavyweight fighter in the world. NOT the best boxer. Or close.
I would favor him to beat Kimbo in a boxing match for sure.
He has the power to beat up some bums to a impressive rec liek Seth Mitchell but no chance against the top guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by Hulk
I like wilder, I don't mind the guy, I think he's a good dangerous fighter. HOWEVER the guys he has fought ain't the greatest which is my point.
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Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I like wilder, I don't mind the guy, I think he's a good dangerous fighter. HOWEVER the guys he has fought ain't the greatest which is my point.
Fair enough. He has beaten some bums. And his last opponent took a dive in my opinion.
Cain being at around 30 years old plus he is a smaller heavyweight so at this point it would not look favorable for him to do any better than Seth Mitchell. I do agree he may beat Mitchell because of that chinniness of Seth but Cain's career in boxing at this point would probably look similar to Seth's. Then you have to factor in the boxing of MMA is(and has to be) taught quite different in a technical aspect so those teachings would have to be undone like a bad habit is. Cain is an exceptional physical and mental type of athlete but its too late for him to be formidable in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHe has the power to beat up some bums to a impressive rec liek Seth Mitchell but no chance against the top guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
If he's the baddest man on the planet he'd be ruling boxing instead of that primitive shit he does in that weak ass sport he's in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
No. My god they need to just put a bullet in the head of what is the heavyweight division if we're serious here.
I don't think he would even be interested.
If can or could be a boxer he would but he can't so he is a ufc guy who does not even make a dent in the real hw champions pay. How is the ufc ever going to get better athletes if they pay them shit hell the hw division even has a limit to it what kinda of shit is that any how no he would be killed.
LOL, yeah if you want to be the baddest man on the planet why would you compete in a sport that allows it's fighters to use all the weapons of the human body, as opposed to just two. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneIf he's the baddest man on the planet he'd be ruling boxing instead of that primitive shit he does in that weak ass sport he's in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Sir, it's not primitive it's the most advanced. Personally, I don't see how a boxing fan can't be an MMA fan and visa versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneIf he's the baddest man on the planet he'd be ruling boxing instead of that primitive shit he does in that weak ass sport he's in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
The real draw for me, is there in both sports, one on one or man to man.
A fight is a fight, I've always been drawn to 1v1 competition, be it boxing, MMA, kickboxing, whatever. I think a real fight fan should be able to appreciate a true fight, regardless of the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
It's a shame so many boxing fans are butthurt that MMA has taken a bit of the luster away from boxing.
No because his sense of range is all fucked up having to worry about being tackled and smelling scrotum and man anus
He probably thinks about the money he makes, his wife and daughter, his new house and cars just like we all do when we have to deal with the unpleasantries of our jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jahmez
I'm doubting he would be dwelling on man anus smell, like you apparently do. Lol
Why would you even put a lol at the end of that statement? All you did was go "nah that's what you do".Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHe probably thinks about the money he makes, his wife and daughter, his new house and cars just like we all do when we have to deal with the unpleasantries of our jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jahmez
I'm doubting he would be dwelling on man anus smell, like you apparently do. Lol
Cain Velasquez did what no Mexican could do in boxing... win a HW title hahaha