He had Collazo struggling and even though Luis is as tough as nails, he could've gotten him outta there.
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He had Collazo struggling and even though Luis is as tough as nails, he could've gotten him outta there.
Collazo is a durable guy, having been knocked out only once early in his career.
Khan fought very well tonight. Some idiots even picked collazo to beat him so he actually exceeded expectations.
Shutouts can be more impressive than a KO and khan shut him down.
Yeah. He dominated him but I also think he got away from his jab-right hand which I think could've eventually ended it via stoppage. Khan is a very good fighter imop and he seems to be getting better.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
A KO didn't matter. He showed that he is still a solid contender.
Many boxers are successful without being KO artists.
It was no secret anyway that Khan has "can't crack an egg" type power.
He's good to make do without it.
Khan may not have the punch power at welterweight at the top level but he does have the speed and height to cause the best fighters trouble.
Kahn impressed me tonight with his focus. Collazo is though, slick and cagey but just couldn't keep on track with Khan and kind of went to pieces.
Khan is pretty good at keeping southpaws boxed in.
I felt sorry for Collazo who was getting hugged and was constantly being leaned on. At the same time though, I don't think he fought an effective fight. He was constantly keeping his hands by his side and seemed to be relying on the one big shot. It could be argued that Khan is getting smarter, but John Ruiz doesn't get credit for it, so I don't see why Khan should. A bad chin is no excuse for cheating.
Funnily enough, I think still Amir Khan could outpoint Mayweather, but would get flattened by Maidana.
That is just a bit sad Miles. Give the guy a bit of credit that was at times an almost masterful performance by Khan and you feel sorry for Collazo. Straight up hate mate. From your neck of the woods too and yet you dangle off egg head Bradleys nuts ? Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Maidana has been beaten by Khan already, he would lose again. Floyd would beat khan eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Well stated. Never been a fan of the guy. Appreciate his gifts but not his attitude or ability to crumble. He looked great last night. Held it together and boxed beautifully. Even his clinches were perfectly executed when he felt the need to tie up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
Khan did a LOT of clinching.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I thought you hated running pot-shotters.....hmmmm....
Khan got walked down and clocked for most of the fight.
Don't forget all those shots he took.
Khan...Vlad...and Carlos Molina ....are like boxing's answer to Velcro.
You can add Hopkins to that list as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneKhan did a LOT of clinching.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I thought you hated running pot-shotters.....hmmmm....
Khan got walked down and clocked for most of the fight.
Don't forget all those shots he took.
Khan...Vlad...and Carlos Molina ....are like boxing's answer to Velcro.
Well, be prepared for a shock! I can't stand Khan, think his speed is an overrated weapon at the highest level, but..... I thought he boxed a fantastic fight, very skilful. I still think he'd get found out by the elite fighters at WW, but he's been out of the ring for a year and it is his 1st fight in the division so although he doesn't have the KO power, all things considered , he did great. Let's not get carried away though, he still doesn't deserve Mayweather, but if his next fight is against one of the top, top guys and he wins, good luck to him..
quite incredible how people are over selling Khan after last night. vic is a disgrace of a referee.
... and then get caught in the exchanges with a shot, and then what would we say? Every fight Khan has lost, by ko or by the robbery vs. Peterson, Khan was WELL ahead in the fight. He boxed smart and took his opportunities when they were presented to him. I liked the way he fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
I agree with most of what you said, but I think he should had gotten the KO win over Collazo last night. If there was ever a boxer inviting a KO, it was Collazo. Following Khan around with his hands down, allowing himself to be grabbed and held, talking to the referee while Khan was throwing punches, throwing wild punishes that were missing by a foot or more and playing the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I don't know what triggered his stupidity, maybe he saw Khan's speed and movement were too much and just went head hunting. Man, what a disastrous night for Collazo, the potential fight with Floyd vaporizes plus he puts on a display of unmatched stupidity!
I was never really a fan of Khan's. Call it a mix between his at times delusional sounding smack talk and his hopping jousting style. I always felt a guy with his speed and long arms should be punching/counterpunching with accuracy and range. It looks like in the year off hunter had some time to address khans inefficiencies without a resetting khans propensity to abandon a plan and just go back to trying to out punch someone while hes hurt. He looked less hoppy and smoother with his footwork. I still feel his linear approach will cause him problems with doubling the force on counters he runs head long into and him landing stops him right in the range and the path that many guys hook in. The clinching and armbars are probably Hunters tactic to deal with that. If khan can do it when he has his wits about him, hes more likely to do it when he gets clipped and his legs to jelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI agree with most of what you said, but I think he should had gotten the KO win over Collazo last night. If there was ever a boxer inviting a KO, it was Collazo. Following Khan around with his hands down, allowing himself to be grabbed and held, talking to the referee while Khan was throwing punches, throwing wild punishes that were missing by a foot or more and playing the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I don't know what triggered his stupidity, maybe he saw Khan's speed and movement were too much and just went head hunting. Man, what a disastrous night for Collazo, the potential fight with Floyd vaporizes plus he puts on a display of unmatched stupidity!
I agree on Collazo fighting the dumbest fight possible. I think part of it is collazos belief that he would have to market himself if he wanted it (a win) to lead anywhere. Leading up to the fight you could tell Collazo was a bit delusional in his assessment that a win could put him in the mayweather sweepstakes and a loss would mean he would start from the bottom again. Did this guy actually believe he was going to get another shot after losing last nights fight at age 33. There's a reason they dug collazo out of a hole to fight khan. Before Victor Ortiz impaled himself on a collazo counter in victors comeback fight after a year off and tap dancing..., collazo's last fight of note was berto in Jan 09. That's 4 years in the shadows. With the pool of talent around the weight as thick as it is, thats not even gatekeeper status (judah, berto, Josesito). I'm not trying to degrade khans quality of opponents but i do think if collazo was the collazo of old, he would have had more matches with named players trying to solve his puzzle, on their way up. He used to be a guy that some fighters avoided because he was slick enough that he made it hard to look good against him. That version of collazo is gone since hes been feasting on club fighters in the small pond.
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Originally Posted by J_UndisputedI was never really a fan of Khan's. Call it a mix between his at times delusional sounding smack talk and his hopping jousting style. I always felt a guy with his speed and long arms should be punching/counterpunching with accuracy and range. It looks like in the year off hunter had some time to address khans inefficiencies without a resetting khans propensity to abandon a plan and just go back to trying to out punch someone while hes hurt. He looked less hoppy and smoother with his footwork. I still feel his linear approach will cause him problems with doubling the force on counters he runs head long into and him landing stops him right in the range and the path that many guys hook in. The clinching and armbars are probably Hunters tactic to deal with that. If khan can do it when he has his wits about him, hes more likely to do it when he gets clipped and his legs to jelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI agree with most of what you said, but I think he should had gotten the KO win over Collazo last night. If there was ever a boxer inviting a KO, it was Collazo. Following Khan around with his hands down, allowing himself to be grabbed and held, talking to the referee while Khan was throwing punches, throwing wild punishes that were missing by a foot or more and playing the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I don't know what triggered his stupidity, maybe he saw Khan's speed and movement were too much and just went head hunting. Man, what a disastrous night for Collazo, the potential fight with Floyd vaporizes plus he puts on a display of unmatched stupidity!
I agree on Collazo fighting the dumbest fight possible. I think part of it is collazos belief that he would have to market himself if he wanted it (a win) to lead anywhere. Leading up to the fight you could tell Collazo was a bit delusional in his assessment that a win could put him in the mayweather sweepstakes and a loss would mean he would start from the bottom again. Did this guy actually believe he was going to get another shot after losing last nights fight at age 33. There's a reason they dug collazo out of a hole to fight khan. Before Victor Ortiz impaled himself on a collazo counter in victors comeback fight after a year off and tap dancing..., collazo's last fight of note was berto in Jan 09. That's 4 years in the shadows. With the pool of talent around the weight as thick as it is, thats not even gatekeeper status (judah, berto, Josesito). I'm not trying to degrade khans quality of opponents but i do think if collazo was the collazo of old, he would have had more matches with named players trying to solve his puzzle, on their way up. He used to be a guy that some fighters avoided because he was slick enough that he made it hard to look good against him. That version of collazo is gone since hes been feasting on club fighters in the small pond.
That's a solid fuckin post right there. Good damn!
Ay great shout on Khan's footwork btw.