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the more i think about this fight the more i think groves is going to win on points
i am as impartial as the come, i like both fighters and i havent watched any of the build up of either fight to be swung either way by personalities
i think groves will fight totally different and i think froch will be a bit more cautious and it will work in groves favour
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Originally Posted by erics44
I want Groves to win but it's 50-50 for me.
How much wear and tear has Froch got now after loads of tough tough fights?
Has Groves got the engine to sustain the sort of pace and punch output to finally deck Froch then keep him there?
2 HUGE factors for me that i think will effect the outcome. ;)
Can't wait for this one, anyone know who the referee is yet?
I think Froch will really bring it this time, Groves will be in a better mental place than before much more settled camp and has felt the power of Froch late on. Groves on points for me.
I very much doubt it goes down to pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
hmmm, you make a really interesting pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24I very much doubt it goes down to pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
full of death and structure
one cant possibly ignore it
Actually quite tempted to put some money on Groves to stop him. I don't think Froch has it in him to improve his game at this stage, and Groves will be better for the experience. Froch has a lazy guard and is not fundamentally sound, something Groves exposed quite fully in the early stage of the first fight. It really depends if Groves can maintain his game plan throughout the later rounds and if he can catch Froch coming in. If not he should still win easily on points. Only way Froch wins is if he catches Groves with a massive shot or Groves gets tired and overwhelmed in the later rounds. Whatever happens should be a cracking fight though, the first one was good and because of how it ended both men feel they have something to prove.
I'll elaborate if it pleases you. Both have decent KO records and hate each other. For that reason I don't see this being a technical fight, I see them both getting stuck in. Therefore I don't see it going the distance because the fight will be a fast tempo and the one gases out first goes. Is that more structured for you? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44hmmm, you make a really interesting pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24I very much doubt it goes down to pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
full of death and structure
one cant possibly ignore it
Groves via UD... Both are going to be better prepared and smarter in this rematch..
I doubt it will be as exciting as the first one but it'll be pretty good regardless..
Froch will knock the stupid gingerbread Chelsea fan the fuck out
You sound really worried that Carl is going to get embarrassed, AGAIN :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
yep much better well doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24I'll elaborate if it pleases you. Both have decent KO records and hate each other. For that reason I don't see this being a technical fight, I see them both getting stuck in. Therefore I don't see it going the distance because the fight will be a fast tempo and the one gases out first goes. Is that more structured for you? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44hmmm, you make a really interesting pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24I very much doubt it goes down to pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
full of death and structure
one cant possibly ignore it
i done agree tho, i think it will be a more technical fight
but that im not totally convinced, thats what makes it interesting eh :)
I keep on changing my mind who will win and who I want to support for this fight so made a list.
Groves love his temperament and mind games hate that he support Chelsea.
Froch is a warrior and not afraid to fight anyone anywhere, he has a hot wife, support Forest.
Froch can be out boxed by Groves early because he has the speed and skills. Froch is stronger and harder puncher which can pressure and tire Groves late and stop or win a tight decision. Either way it will be a very exciting fight.
Never been worried ever about the cobra, he's always steps up and I've only heard positive things come from his training camp. He's up for this and he will show the last fight was a blip. It won't be easy, but he will get the W. Trust me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou sound really worried that Carl is going to get embarrassed, AGAIN :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
And also there's no embarrassment when a champion gets off the floor , losing the fight and pulls out the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou sound really worried that Carl is going to get embarrassed, AGAIN :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
None at all, maybe Carl will get the chance to actually do that this time without a third party interfering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonAnd also there's no embarrassment when a champion gets off the floor , losing the fight and pulls out the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou sound really worried that Carl is going to get embarrassed, AGAIN :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Well this is why the rematch will settle itQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonAnd also there's no embarrassment when a champion gets off the floor , losing the fight and pulls out the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou sound really worried that Carl is going to get embarrassed, AGAIN :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Wonder If Froch will get into the hall of Fame i mean i think he really fell short of Cazlaghe and i am not sure if i rate him over Hatton. Does never being the man in his divsion hurt his chances i know its off topic but this might be one of his last fights does Froch get into the hall or no.
I think you could put him in there because he is so consistent in the quality opponents, I don't think anyone in boxing has done what he has in terms of back to back fights and winning with his desire and will to just win or atleast die trying in a losing effort!
Calzaghe fought a lot of bums which is why his record is big, add to the fact froch is well travelled without any quibble each time.
Huge froch fan since class of 2002 but he would lose to Calzaghe on points without getting hurt but would say Calzaghe would be pushed more than ever.
Froch wouldn't get hit like lacy did as he uses range so well.
He also times his opponents well. Tough one though.
This is a wind up right? Froch , Hall of fame? What hall of fame? World- NO, British- didn't know it existed , but NO. Nottingham or East Midlands - Perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
It is a bit off topic, but let's end this once and for all. Calzaghe is superior to Froch in EVERY SINGLE WAY!!!lots of criticism was labelled at Calzaghe and one was that he fought the Yanks when they were old and past it. I think that's a fair comment, but remember he beat Hopkins 6 or 7 years ago, and Froch would get easily beat by Hopkins now! Also Calzaghe beat Kessler when he was young, unbeaten and in his prime. Froch then loses to him, and beats him years later when he's a bit more shop worn. I could fill pages proving my point, but I can't justify wasting time on it.
Was a little surprised last night when I learned HBO was covering the fight. They don't usually leave this continent.
This is a hugely hyped fight and they need to start competing against Showtime so they are trying harder. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit