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Guillermo Rigondeaux is arguably second to FM in the P4P lists
It's amazing to say that about a guy who has only fought as a pro 13 times
No-one wants to fight himm not Frampton, Quigg, Martinez or Cruz.
I think everyone should be thankful he's 33, not 23 years old,
There have been plenty of people with great skills and abilities who did not make it very farQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Say, George Benton
Even Pernell WHitaker (ironically taught by George Benton early in his career) struggled to get worthy opponents late in his career
I have a feeling, Guillermo Rigondeaux, does not believe in Jesus, but he relies on his natural abilities only.
This explains his failures. It is not about how good you are, it is about how good is our offering to God.
Floyd, in turn, believes in God and admittedly is praying all the time. Even though his boxing is VERY boring (but efficient), he not just wins, but gets best paycheck.
In this life, it is all about finding the first principle.
God's fault for sure!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminThere have been plenty of people with great skills and abilities who did not make it very farQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Say, George Benton
Even Pernell WHitaker (ironically taught by George Benton early in his career) struggled to get worthy opponents late in his career
I have a feeling, Guillermo Rigondeaux, does not believe in Jesus, but he relies on his natural abilities only.
This explains his failures. It is not about how good you are, it is about how good is our offering to God.
Floyd, in turn, believes in God and admittedly is praying all the time. Even though his boxing is VERY boring (but efficient), he not just wins, but gets best paycheck.
In this life, it is all about finding the first principle.
Rigo is a fantastic pure boxer who clowned the network glory boy in Donaire. That was huge! But it doesn't make him a victim. If you're great, you are not claiming the victim card early on. I think he finger paints when he might be able to do more and you have to earn that pass
his problem is that he is boring and at a low weight. if he were a welterweight, he would be fine. its just that most people dont care about fighters his size especially if they are boring.
rigo is good but i think that he got overrated quickly after his donaire win. yes, he has an extensive amateur background, but he has really only looked really good in his last few fights. he has struggled with previous opponents. i would in no way put him at #2 p4p. i could say he is in the top 10 but has done absolutely nothing to make him in the top 2. not even in the top 5 IMO.
Your do see that the god you are describing is a dick right? Deciding which man gets beat up on who better feeds his ego, it's shameful. I know very few regular people of such low character.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminThere have been plenty of people with great skills and abilities who did not make it very farQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Say, George Benton
Even Pernell WHitaker (ironically taught by George Benton early in his career) struggled to get worthy opponents late in his career
I have a feeling, Guillermo Rigondeaux, does not believe in Jesus, but he relies on his natural abilities only.
This explains his failures. It is not about how good you are, it is about how good is our offering to God.
Floyd, in turn, believes in God and admittedly is praying all the time. Even though his boxing is VERY boring (but efficient), he not just wins, but gets best paycheck.
In this life, it is all about finding the first principle.
He is far too boring.
The lower the weight class, the lower the number of boxers people can name.
^^this in turn means that there isn't a great deal of big fights for him, and even if he does get a fight, it's a stinkfest.
All in all he hasn't offered me anything to rank him. The other top 10 p4p fighters have almost all certainly did things in the sport to earn their places there.
Rigondeaux hasn't. He has literally bored me with every fight. Skilled? Yes. Exciting? No.
Rigo should stop feeling sorry for himself, if he even does, and earn the accolade of being a top p4p fighter. He has to dominate the division, beat the best at the weight and unify titles to be undisputed. Just stay busy and beat the best. There are plenty of good fights out there to be made and money if he is prepared to take the risk. He does not have to believe in god either.
Boxing is more spectacle than sport. If you're going to be skilled and utilize the sweet science as it's supposed to be used, you need to also play a character like Floyd Mayweather to get people interested. Otherwise the fans and networks will snub you. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
They're in the wrong business. Rigo is Ingmar Bergman in a world where people want to watch Michael Bay; T.S Eliot in a world where people want to read Robert Munsch. Can't change what the public wants.
But the thing is the top guys don't want to fight Rigo. It's amazing that the number one fighter in the world at that weight, him and his team have to go beg Frampton for a fight, to the point where they were even prepared to go to Ireland to fight himQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Team Rigondeaux wants fight with Carl Frampton, offers to go to Belfast - Bad Left Hook
Don't get me wrong Frampton says he'd love to fight Rigo
http://boxingnewsonline.net/latest/f...-leo-santa-cru
But if that's the case then why didn't they take the Rigo fight when Frampton was made mandatory for Rigo's belt ? But Frampton and his team said "Na, swerve that" and opted for much less demanding task against Cruz
Yes.
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Boxing is hitting and not being hit. On that basis you can make a case for Rigondeaux being pound for pound numer one.;
But we all watch boxing almost exclusively on the telly. And the telly peeps demand excitement because that's what their customers want. In terms of excitement Rigo doesn't crack the top 100. Make a fight like Soto Karass against Josesito Lopez and you have a fight that cable subscribers want to watch.
If Rigondeaux wants to become anything like a TV attraction then he's going to have to become more aggressive and give the TV fans what they want. But that isn't who he is.
Boxing is entertainment and rigo is too boring.
Rigondeaux needs to be matched right to provide entertaining fights :D Santa Cruz would provide some thrills :cool: Why isn't Quigg pushing for the fight :confused: Avalos would be fun :)
No, I do not. God is righteous in defining what is good and what is bad, since he is the creator and owner of everything. God does not respect a person, he respects faith. That's just the way it is, now deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
1. Guillermo Rigondeaux straps a harness around his body and pulls Ford Excursions 5 miles uphill twice a day. Then afterwards, he jumps in the pool and remarkably comes out dry as a bone. ( he pulls the Excursion while also carrying a refrigerator over his shoulders at the same damn time.)
2. Guillermo Rigondeaux also shadowboxes in a pool of wet cement, though before Donaire fight they switched to yogurt
3. Guillermo Rigondeaux conditions for body shots by paying MLB players to throw fastballs at him all day
4. Guillermo Rigondeaux eats lightning and craps thunder.
5. Guillermo Rigondeaux spars with Chuck Norris
6. Guillermo Rigondeaux is doing laps in a quicksand pit and heard he runs hundreds of miles at a time with the Kenyan Olympic team atop a mountain.
7. During the runs with Kenyan Olympic team, Guillermo Rigondeaux consecutively beats one by one world records at 100 m, 200 m, 400 m, 800 m, ... up to marathon. He is gracious enough not to compete at running, so that Kenyan people can have some food.
Dude is fucked he is in a low weight class is boring as can be and just gave the biggest star near his weight a boxing lesson dude is fucked. No one cares about anything below ww even lw is pushing it. I mean Look at Wald he is boring as fuck and makes 15 mill a fight know why because he a hw.
Rigo is a master boxer, he made Donaire look a fool and I always rated him, yes like many Cuban
boxers they are to good for the rest, they may not be the most entertaining but they win.;)
It was quite a show. Here is was in his 12th fight as a pro against a guy that was as high as 3 on some of those phantom lists. A guy known for his strengths and speed on the inside and countering ability in the kill zone. Rigo made him look like a guy they pulled off the street. I think he took Donaires heart in the process. I'll be surprised if he beats Vetyeka this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
As for this generation of Cubans, I think for the most part they have been a group of underachievers and slackers. Consider Perez. The guy entered most likely entered the least competitive division since Marciano and has showed ambition on the level of a sloth. Btw I was really looking forward to the Jennings fight. Gamboa has absolutely wasted his talents.
Lara has thought the world needs to come to him but to his credit he's another guy most don't want to fight. Rigo needs out of Top Rank and even then he's a star wrecker now(bad for business) and the way the risk and reward system works today, he will be hard pressed to get a marquee fight. I agree with the point on the weight class also. The best weight classes in boxing are the ones that are ignored.
I don't think so. He just needs to go up in weight and start fighting big names. No one really cares about the divisions below 140 or 135 unless you're a hardcore fan. If he started fight names right now and beating them he'd blow up like manny did when he went up in weight. I guarantee it.
Fighters like Rigo, Floyd and Sweat Pea are not watched by the majority of fans for the skills but by who they fight. These fighters have to unify titles, go up in weight and take extra challenges to get the attention of mainstream boxing fans never mind mainstream public.
In a word, Yes