Fcki. Props to Cotto. True warrior
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Fcki. Props to Cotto. True warrior
Age forgives no one and injuries introduce you to age.
I just found out Martinez had tore his acl......this was all about a final pay check. Walking in with two bad knees, its like a sprinter racing with two bad hamstrings.....you know you cant win
The 12th round of the Chavez fight ruined Martinez. The knockdown fucked up his knee and he has never really recovered
Wish I hadnt watched a rdQuote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Martinez was what <85% to start? and then gets rocked straight away. He started to get his wits back about the 6th round but his legs where still crap. Yea looks like it was about the paycheck same as his fight in Argentina.
Same here. I didn't know just how bad the injuries were and have only read more post fight. I knew Martinez had issues, but not to that extent and this is a man that relies on his legs to do everything including spending half the fight with his hands perched at his waist.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
That first round and seeing how his legs were both upright and on the canvas made me feel a bit sick inside. It was obvious that this was a freak show. Credit to Martinez for even lasting as long as he did like that, but that was not even 30% of the fighter he was as much of what was good about him came from being unorthodox and athletic and it came from the legs. I'm surprised his team let him fight as they must have known and admitted as much post fight.
Sure, fighters need to be fighting for paychecks and pick their opponents, but I felt this was a bit shameless on the side of the Cotto camp. At the same time, Martinez must have known how bad his lower body was. It thus wasn't an elite fight and certainly no defining moment for Cotto. It is a tarnished fight, but Cotto did what he had to and looked sharp doing so, that is as far my credit can go.
Cotto looked tremendous.
I picked Martinez to win, but like everyone I was concerned with his injuries.
It does feel like a paycheck fight n hoping to land a big one as Sergio had to have known going in that he was severely handicapped.
If I had picked Cotto then I woulda enjoyed this fight a lot more lol
Mayorga is better than Martinez;D
Floyd could have got that middleweight title easy. Still can;)
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Originally Posted by GandalfSame here. I didn't know just how bad the injuries were and have only read more post fight. I knew Martinez had issues, but not to that extent and this is a man that relies on his legs to do everything including spending half the fight with his hands perched at his waist.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
That first round and seeing how his legs were both upright and on the canvas made me feel a bit sick inside. It was obvious that this was a freak show. Credit to Martinez for even lasting as long as he did like that, but that was not even 30% of the fighter he was as much of what was good about him came from being unorthodox and athletic and it came from the legs. I'm surprised his team let him fight as they must have known and admitted as much post fight.
Sure, fighters need to be fighting for paychecks and pick their opponents, but I felt this was a bit shameless on the side of the Cotto camp. At the same time, Martinez must have known how bad his lower body was. It thus wasn't an elite fight and certainly no defining moment for Cotto. It is a tarnished fight, but Cotto did what he had to and looked sharp doing so, that is as far my credit can go.
I agree. A 100% Martinez beats cotto worse than what pac did to him.
I think its the end... he cant compete if he is gonna have knee problems.
It wasnt his knee that caught him the first time he got hurt. He got caught and hurt early and couldnt get back in the fight.
He got caught because he couldn't move out of the way fast enough.. he is old, and has ligament problems. Go figure?!!?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Cotto pounced on him... Cotto was 120%. Even if Martinez was 150% it was gonna be a tough fight for him vs. Cotto. Cotto came up and ready for the fight.
Jesus give Cotto some credit. You guys have been overplaying the knee since they called a sleeve a brace. The knee did not do him in, the first rd did. He said he never recovered from a punch in the first round and that the knee had nothing to do with it. I thought for sure that he'd fake a limp if he got into serious trouble but they threw in the towel instead.
Exactly, its like Cotto has shattered some perceptions that may also lead to Golovkin getting smashed by a smaller fighter so they want to explain it away with an injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Re-read my last entry before this- I SAID COTTO CAME UP FOR THE FIGHT AND POUNCED ON HIM.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
But, let us not diminish what knee problems can do to a fighter- sure, they fight with their hands, but if he can't move he can't move. Sergio was a sitting duck.
Even if he was 100% the fight was tough for him. Cotto does get credit for dispatching a lame duck in early fashion, the way he was supposed to.
If Cotto took the fight hard and couldn't finish him off the way he did, we would have questions about Cotto's ability.
What Cotto did last night is a million times better than what Golovkin managed in his last fight. Moving up amd in his first fight at the new weight he fights THE lineal world champ amd smashes him in to the canvas three times in the first round!Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaRe-read my last entry before this- I SAID COTTO CAME UP FOR THE FIGHT AND POUNCED ON HIM.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
But, let us not diminish what knee problems can do to a fighter- sure, they fight with their hands, but if he can't move he can't move. Sergio was a sitting duck.
Even if he was 100% the fight was tough for him. Cotto does get credit for dispatching a lame duck in early fashion, the way he was supposed to.
If Cotto took the fight hard and couldn't finish him off the way he did, we would have questions about Cotto's ability.
On the other hand, Golovkin looked like dog shit. You can only be judged n your last fight and judging by their last fights, if they are matched together in their next fights Golovkin gets his first loss by a smaller fighter because for once hed finally be fighting a world class fighter and ind out what its like to get hit back.
Age and injury wait for no man, Sergio came in for the pay day no more no less he was past his
sell by date, a good pay day and in boxing forget glory it's about the money.
If you think it's about glory your living in crown cuckoo land, boxing is about cool hard cash Sergio
came into the fight a crocked injured fighter, the money was to good.
Cotto is no middle weight, Canelo wins his next fight end of the year those 2 meet, large pay day
in a Hispanic slug fest.
Sergio should take on GGG or Quillen now. :)
I think he will retire.... if he got anywhere near 1.5 mil for the Cotto fight, you had better believe it is quitting time for Sergio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Yup. I didn't even know the actual purses when I posted my last message. Cotto assured of 3 and guaranteed 7 mil, with Sergio guaranteed 1.5 mil plus ppv revenue- which may or may not have netted him an extra 300k or so.
I'd walk away... unless Floyd or someone else (doubt anyone can generate that kind of money for him) wants to fight me for 3 mil, then fuck it. lololol.... BYE!!!