Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr camps set to talk on Tuesday night 10/6/14

Eddie Hearn will open talks with the representatives of Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr on Tuesday night as he attempts to make the Las Vegas superfight that will tick the last box in Carl Froch’s incredible career.
The Nottingham fighter is desperate to headline in Vegas before retiring from the ring and Hearn, his promoter, is keen to make a bout with Mexico’s former middleweight world champion at the end of November or in December.
Talks have already opened with James DeGale, the mandatory challenger for Froch’s IBF super-middleweight title, but that fight does not need to take place until February, while Hearn will also discuss a third fight against Mikkel Kessler this week.


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Would love to see the Chavez fight.
The Kessler and DeGale fights leave me cold, DeGale seems a little inexperienced for Froch and the Kessler fight has me asking what else is there to prove.
Of course, I'm from the US.

Agree this is a good matchup, I think is pretty much Guaranteed Froch wants to go this route as he's dying to fight in Vegas ;)

I also think he'll win this then want some more of the Vegas vibe and fight out there again, would LOVE to see him in against GGG at some point before he retires.

Hate or love Froch you can't begrudge him the chance to fight in Vegas. What do you think the chances are of a matchup with GGG in the future?

Froch wants to fight in Vegas which really means he wants to fight Junior for big money and less risk. Would he fight Ward in Vegas. Probably not but he may want to fight GGG in Vegas as a back up.

I know vegas has historical significance for a boxer but so does MSG and I do not hear him say he wants to fight there. Must be tax reasons to fight in Vegas.

Chavez don't deserve a shot at all. I would be annoyed if this was carls last fight to be honest. He still has bigger fights that can be made and will be highly capable of winning those fights too...

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Chavez don't deserve a shot at all. I would be annoyed if this was carls last fight to be honest. He still has bigger fights that can be made and will be highly capable of winning those fights too...

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Even though Froch would be taking the smaller purse against Chavez it would still be more than he would make in any other fight

Referring to the "dumbest boxing fans" thread... I can't of any stupider fans than those who make Chavez Jr. such a big draw, when all he has to show for his efforts is a bloated record, a humiliating shutout by the first elite fighter he faced (Martinez), a long record of cheating to make weight, and the ability to sponge of his pappy's name.


Now THOSE are some stupid fans.

Carl is stuck between a rock and a hard place. After all that he has given to this sport he deserves to fulfill one of his dreams just for him. That dream is a Vegas fight but he cant just grab Degale or someone and expect to garner a bunch of cash. He'd have to get on a Floyd undercard for that and be the second last match of the evening. I'm not sure a third Kessler fight does all that well either. Even unification with Abraham or Bika would not be worthy of either network and Ward is in perpetual limbo.
@Violent Demise is right. Even a Ward fight wont provide the kind of cash a Chavez fight will whether he deserves it or not. In addition I'm not sure that he would be less dangerous then Kessler, Bika or Araham and may even be a tougher fight aside from the rankings at this point.

I've been unfair to this kid because of his seemingly endless coddling but he's a pretty damn good fighter. He deserves some props for taking this fight if he does because he most likely has a much easier route to a title via Bika. That's actually what I have been expecting but he also makes more money with Froch. If I'm honest with myself I think Chavez beats Bika and Abraham and maybe Kessler so I cant then admonish Froch for fighting him. He's a big kid who can punch, has more chin then a Chinese phone book, loves the pocket and is as fundamentally sound as Groves paying Froch twice as much or at least double digits. I've kind of talked myself into liking this fight.

Damn.

i mainly want this fight to happen because i want chavez to get beat badly. there is no way that he beats froch and i would predict a KO win. people talk about chavez having a granite chin but he has never fought anybody of this size with this kind of punch. froch is a whole different animal than what chavez is used to. this would probably be the worst fighter that froch has faced for years.

Ward is where it is at to be considered the best super middleweight in the world. They can all pretend he does not exist, does not bring in the money or has contractual disputes but he is the man at the weight.

Froch is gonna fight everyone but Andre Ward... lololol.... is Froch scared??

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Froch is not scared behave yourself. He has earned the right to make money and I am sure he will want to rematch Ward before he retires, he has pride about his legacy.

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Froch is not scared behave yourself. He has earned the right to make money and I am sure he will want to rematch Ward before he retires, he has pride about his legacy.

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I agree here. What the fuck is the point in rematching Ward? It wasn't a great fight the first time and I think Froch has very little chance of beating Ward. He gave a good effort and lost a UD.


Lets see him in exciting fights against other world class fighters.


And yes, Chavez Jr. is world class, barely. lol

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You got me there, Venereal Disease. You don't know exactly who your dad was... but you've managed to narrow it down to one of the apes who raped your mom on all fours when she broke into the primates cage at the LA zoo. They did some DNA testing... but it's hard to pinpoint one from the 50 or so orangutans and chimps who had their way with her that night.


Anyway, if it makes you feel good to have a coddled, spoon-fed, daddy-protected, run-of-the-mill, exposed fighter, who resorts to cheating and bending the rules to get his victories over no-names..... then good for you.


My only observation is that the fighters that hail from your general area tend to be scum-sucking low-life douchebags (JCC Jr., Margarito, Rios).... who have pea-sized brains and who will be serving fries at the local McDonalds long after their careers are over.


I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.


To each his own. You're a scumbag so you'll cheer for scumbags.


Carry on.

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I seen you suck off Juan Manuel Lopez. A fighter so classy he tried to ruin a referee career by making up shit just cuz he got his ass kicked not once but twice by a fighter he was suppose to beat. And you're always swallowing Trinidad. The fighter so classy in defeat he blamed the Hopkins loss on his mistress. Seriously get the fuck on with your bullshit. You just proved you don't even know what the fuck classy means. But keep embarrassing yourself. It's some what amusing.

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Your fascination with fellatio means you probably have calluses in the back of your throat from servicing fellow scum bags Margacheato and Melon Head.


Show me one instance where I defended JuanMa for his classless comments about the ref. One. I didn't think so. You talk a lot of shit, but can't back it up. Then you reach for straws by dredging up Trinidad's talk about his loss to Hopkins. Like Trinidad is the only fighter in history to try to explain away his first loss.


Are you really that much of a moron? Or is it because your mom kept sneaking back into the zoo at night after getting impregnated by a well-hung orangutan... and the horny ape damaged your developing fetus.


I would call you pathetic... but it would like kicking an unconscious drunk in the head.


Like I've said plenty of times..... you're kept here solely for your comedic value. Kinda like the village idiot that everyone gets a laugh out of every once in awhile.


And by the way, moron. Don't use the word "classy" until you look it up in the dictionary.
You have no fucking idea what that means.

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You got me there, Venereal Disease. You don't know exactly who your dad was... but you've managed to narrow it down to one of the apes who raped your mom on all fours when she broke into the primates cage at the LA zoo. They did some DNA testing... but it's hard to pinpoint one from the 50 or so orangutans and chimps who had their way with her that night.


Anyway, if it makes you feel good to have a coddled, spoon-fed, daddy-protected, run-of-the-mill, exposed fighter, who resorts to cheating and bending the rules to get his victories over no-names..... then good for you.


My only observation is that the fighters that hail from your general area tend to be scum-sucking low-life douchebags (JCC Jr., Margarito, Rios).... who have pea-sized brains and who will be serving fries at the local McDonalds long after their careers are over.


I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.


To each his own. You're a scumbag so you'll cheer for scumbags.


Carry on.

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I seen you suck off Juan Manuel Lopez. A fighter so classy he tried to ruin a referee career by making up shit just cuz he got his ass kicked not once but twice by a fighter he was suppose to beat. And you're always swallowing Trinidad. The fighter so classy in defeat he blamed the Hopkins loss on his mistress. Seriously get the fuck on with your bullshit. You just proved you don't even know what the fuck classy means. But keep embarrassing yourself. It's some what amusing.

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Your fascination with fellatio means you probably have calluses in the back of your throat from servicing fellow scum bags Margacheato and Melon Head.


Show me one instance where I defended JuanMa for his classless comments about the ref. One. I didn't think so. You talk a lot of shit, but can't back it up. Then you reach for straws by dredging up Trinidad's talk about his loss to Hopkins. Like Trinidad is the only fighter in history to try to explain away his first loss.

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It doesn't matter if you defended him or not, stupid. Are you gonna tell me you never cheered for Lopez? One of the most classless fighters of the last 20 years. We both know you did. So how does that fall into the "I only cheer the classy fighters" bullshit line you trying to pass? Just like that slut you call a mom, it's to easy with you

And Trinidad is the only fighter I ever heard blame the loss on his mistress. Everybody laughs at the excuse. You defend it cuz your mom lied to you and told you she was that mistress. And even though I'm pretty sure just like all of welfare island Tito once banged your mom it's not true. Felix Trinidad is not the father of one of your 22 little brothers

Chavez Jr fight, is good business for Froch and Hearn good money which is the main thing,
it's a fight Froch should win with ease.
Carl is in the twilight of his carer, there is wear and tear on his body so this fight makes good
sense,a fight with DeGale very little money and one he could lose, Ward fight a none starter
he would lose and make very little money.!
Maybe a fight with Kessler that would be a really hard fight again, remember Froch has a style
that he takes some to give some, and he's taken some stick the hole object of this game is
to get out with ALL your marbles, and ALL your money.;)

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Chavez Jr fight, is good business for Froch and Hearn good money which is the main thing,
it's a fight Froch should win with ease.
Carl is in the twilight of his carer, there is wear and tear on his body so this fight makes good
sense,a fight with DeGale very little money and one he could lose, Ward fight a none starter
he would lose and make very little money.!
Maybe a fight with Kessler that would be a really hard fight again, remember Froch has a style
that he takes some to give some, and he's taken some stick the hole object of this game is
to get out with ALL your marbles, and ALL your money.;)

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I agree that Chavez is a good fight for Froch for Commercial reasons , and fair play to him , he's earnt the right to take it and good luck. But I don't see this being a fight that "Froch should win with ease".
The way Froch boxes, I don't think he's capable of winning any fights with the people mentioned with ease! (maybe Degale). Chavez is a big name (more due to his Dad than his skill) and more importantly a big earner. I don't think they would take a fight where they're not going to be competitive and don't feel they have a good chance of winning.
More importantly , in the States , they don't want to see a Brit come over and give an easy beating to one of their names. Team Chavez see this as a way of getting a bit of credibility and profile for their man against what they see as a technically limited boxer.
of course, it might not work out like that, but we'll see.

Froch has maybe one or two fights left, and in truth, didn't look so hot twice against Groves. He deserves a cash out end considering all the risk fights he did take on. Froch stays busy and fights. Just compare that to Ward who most really couldn't care less about. I've no issues with Froch knocking out Chavez in the states. In fact, I would quite enjoy it.

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You got me there, Venereal Disease. You don't know exactly who your dad was... but you've managed to narrow it down to one of the apes who raped your mom on all fours when she broke into the primates cage at the LA zoo. They did some DNA testing... but it's hard to pinpoint one from the 50 or so orangutans and chimps who had their way with her that night.


Anyway, if it makes you feel good to have a coddled, spoon-fed, daddy-protected, run-of-the-mill, exposed fighter, who resorts to cheating and bending the rules to get his victories over no-names..... then good for you.


My only observation is that the fighters that hail from your general area tend to be scum-sucking low-life douchebags (JCC Jr., Margarito, Rios).... who have pea-sized brains and who will be serving fries at the local McDonalds long after their careers are over.


I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.


To each his own. You're a scumbag so you'll cheer for scumbags.


Carry on.

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I seen you suck off Juan Manuel Lopez. A fighter so classy he tried to ruin a referee career by making up shit just cuz he got his ass kicked not once but twice by a fighter he was suppose to beat. And you're always swallowing Trinidad. The fighter so classy in defeat he blamed the Hopkins loss on his mistress. Seriously get the fuck on with your bullshit. You just proved you don't even know what the fuck classy means. But keep embarrassing yourself. It's some what amusing.

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Your fascination with fellatio means you probably have calluses in the back of your throat from servicing fellow scum bags Margacheato and Melon Head.


Show me one instance where I defended JuanMa for his classless comments about the ref. One. I didn't think so. You talk a lot of shit, but can't back it up. Then you reach for straws by dredging up Trinidad's talk about his loss to Hopkins. Like Trinidad is the only fighter in history to try to explain away his first loss.

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It doesn't matter if you defended him or not, stupid. Are you gonna tell me you never cheered for Lopez? One of the most classless fighters of the last 20 years. We both know you did. So how does that fall into the "I only cheer the classy fighters" bullshit line you trying to pass? Just like that slut you call a mom, it's to easy with you

And Trinidad is the only fighter I ever heard blame the loss on his mistress. Everybody laughs at the excuse. You defend it cuz your mom lied to you and told you she was that mistress. And even though I'm pretty sure just like all of welfare island Tito once banged your mom it's not true. Felix Trinidad is not the father of one of your 22 little brothers

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Try to follow me on this very complicated point, shit-for-brains:


Cheering at some point for a fighter is not the same thing as defending his every move... even when he's wrong. Did you catch that? Or are there too many big words in there for you?


I cheered for Lopez from the beginning... he showed a lot of promise. After that judge debacle, I've been pretty lukewarm on the guy. Show me where I cheered him on after that fight. Don't just talk shit. Show me. What's that? You can't? I didn't think so. Now STFU.


You, on the other hand, shamelessly continue to cheer for and defend the likes of Melon Head, Margacheato (all the way to his retirement), and that low-life punk Rios. Those are YOUR heroes.


And don't even get me started on how you conveniently avoid the subject of the "stool-quitting", cross-dressing, closet gay De La Hoya. When it happens to one of your own, you can hear a pin drop from your side, because it's not convenient for you to admit this happens in all nationalities.


But forgive me for getting too complicated for you. I admit it must be hard for someone who brags about getting his wrist broken by a baseball bat to understand anything other than grunts and unitelligible noises.


Spare yourself further humiliation, scumbag. I'm getting tired of beating on and humiliating your ignorant ass. Do us all a favor.


Hang yourself.

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You got me there, Venereal Disease. You don't know exactly who your dad was... but you've managed to narrow it down to one of the apes who raped your mom on all fours when she broke into the primates cage at the LA zoo. They did some DNA testing... but it's hard to pinpoint one from the 50 or so orangutans and chimps who had their way with her that night.


Anyway, if it makes you feel good to have a coddled, spoon-fed, daddy-protected, run-of-the-mill, exposed fighter, who resorts to cheating and bending the rules to get his victories over no-names..... then good for you.


My only observation is that the fighters that hail from your general area tend to be scum-sucking low-life douchebags (JCC Jr., Margarito, Rios).... who have pea-sized brains and who will be serving fries at the local McDonalds long after their careers are over.


I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.


To each his own. You're a scumbag so you'll cheer for scumbags.


Carry on.

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I seen you suck off Juan Manuel Lopez. A fighter so classy he tried to ruin a referee career by making up shit just cuz he got his ass kicked not once but twice by a fighter he was suppose to beat. And you're always swallowing Trinidad. The fighter so classy in defeat he blamed the Hopkins loss on his mistress. Seriously get the fuck on with your bullshit. You just proved you don't even know what the fuck classy means. But keep embarrassing yourself. It's some what amusing.

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Your fascination with fellatio means you probably have calluses in the back of your throat from servicing fellow scum bags Margacheato and Melon Head.


Show me one instance where I defended JuanMa for his classless comments about the ref. One. I didn't think so. You talk a lot of shit, but can't back it up. Then you reach for straws by dredging up Trinidad's talk about his loss to Hopkins. Like Trinidad is the only fighter in history to try to explain away his first loss.

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It doesn't matter if you defended him or not, stupid. Are you gonna tell me you never cheered for Lopez? One of the most classless fighters of the last 20 years. We both know you did. So how does that fall into the "I only cheer the classy fighters" bullshit line you trying to pass? Just like that slut you call a mom, it's to easy with you

And Trinidad is the only fighter I ever heard blame the loss on his mistress. Everybody laughs at the excuse. You defend it cuz your mom lied to you and told you she was that mistress. And even though I'm pretty sure just like all of welfare island Tito once banged your mom it's not true. Felix Trinidad is not the father of one of your 22 little brothers

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Try to follow me on this very complicated point, shit-for-brains:


Cheering at some point for a fighter is not the same thing as defending his every move... even when he's wrong. Did you catch that? Or are there too many big words in there for you?


I cheered for Lopez from the beginning... he showed a lot of promise. After that judge debacle, I've been pretty lukewarm on the guy. Show me where I cheered him on after that fight. Don't just talk shit. Show me. What's that? You can't? I didn't think so. Now STFU.


You, on the other hand, shamelessly continue to cheer for and defend the likes of Melon Head, Margacheato (all the way to his retirement), and that low-life punk Rios. Those are YOUR heroes.


And don't even get me started on how you conveniently avoid the subject of the "stool-quitting", cross-dressing, closet gay De La Hoya. When it happens to one of your own, you can hear a pin drop from your side, because it's not convenient for you to admit this happens in all nationalities.


But forgive me for getting too complicated for you. I admit it must be hard for someone who brags about getting his wrist broken by a baseball bat to understand anything other than grunts and unitelligible noises.


Spare yourself further humiliation, scumbag. I'm getting tired of beating on and humiliating your ignorant ass. Do us all a favor.


Hang yourself.

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I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.

You know what fag wrote that? You did. Clear as fucking day. So stop pretending you meant something else.

I know you stop cheering for Lopez. You abandon him going into the Garcia fight. Pretty much cuz you knew he was being led to slaughter. And slaughtered he was. You remained silent going into the De Leon fight cuz you knew the chance of getting blasted out was pretty high. Yet when that crocked ass ref from Welfare Island stops the fight early and gives Lopez the win, all of a sudden you come out and start talking about what a great win it was for him. How glad you were for him. Pretending you had his back from the start. Blah, blah, blah. Typical pussy behavior. You back him and suck his dick non-stop when you know he's going to win. But fuck supporting him when he's expected to lose. I knew a long time ago you weren't a boxing fan. You a groupie for fighters from welfare island. When there doing good. But your're not a boxing fan. And that's just one of the many reasons you're always getting humiliated here. And it's not just by me either. No. No. No. You stop being my personal punching bag awhile back. You're the forums punching bag now

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Try to follow me on this very complicated point, shit-for-brains:


Cheering at some point for a fighter is not the same thing as defending his every move... even when he's wrong. Did you catch that? Or are there too many big words in there for you?


I cheered for Lopez from the beginning... he showed a lot of promise. After that judge debacle, I've been pretty lukewarm on the guy. Show me where I cheered him on after that fight. Don't just talk shit. Show me. What's that? You can't? I didn't think so. Now STFU.


You, on the other hand, shamelessly continue to cheer for and defend the likes of Melon Head, Margacheato (all the way to his retirement), and that low-life punk Rios. Those are YOUR heroes.


And don't even get me started on how you conveniently avoid the subject of the "stool-quitting", cross-dressing, closet gay De La Hoya. When it happens to one of your own, you can hear a pin drop from your side, because it's not convenient for you to admit this happens in all nationalities.


But forgive me for getting too complicated for you. I admit it must be hard for someone who brags about getting his wrist broken by a baseball bat to understand anything other than grunts and unitelligible noises.


Spare yourself further humiliation, scumbag. I'm getting tired of beating on and humiliating your ignorant ass. Do us all a favor.


Hang yourself.

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I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.

You know what fag wrote that? You did. Clear as fucking day. So stop pretending you meant something else.

I know you stop cheering for Lopez. You abandon him going into the Garcia fight. Pretty much cuz you knew he was being led to slaughter. And slaughtered he was. You remained silent going into the De Leon fight cuz you knew the chance of getting blasted out was pretty high. Yet when that crocked ass ref from Welfare Island stops the fight early and gives Lopez the win, all of a sudden you come out and start talking about what a great win it was for him. How glad you were for him. Pretending you had his back from the start. Blah, blah, blah. Typical pussy behavior. You back him and suck his dick non-stop when you know he's going to win. But fuck supporting him when he's expected to lose. I knew a long time ago you weren't a boxing fan. You a groupie for fighters from welfare island. When there doing good. But your're not a boxing fan. And that's just one of the many reasons you're always getting humiliated here. And it's not just by me either. No. No. No. You stop being my personal punching bag awhile back. You're the forums punching bag now

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I'll be more than happy to drive yet another thread into the ground, if it means humiliating your ignorant ass yet again. We've all lost count of how many times this has happened.... but you just keep coming back for more. So more you'll get.


Tell me, asswipe... are you going to continue to blatantly ignore the parts of my post that hurt you the most and ring the most true?? Like totally ignoring where I accuse you to your face of having a double-standard when it comes to cheering for the scumbags from your side of the fence, while critizicing lesser evils in others? Are that much of a fucking fool? Wait... what the hell am I talking about. Of course you are.


Since you ignore the facts I rub across your ghetto boy face.... I'll do the same with your insistence about Lopez. You must have a hard-on for certain fighters... 'cause it's always the same old song and dance. Do you have any new material? Or do you just rehash the same tired old bullshit over and over again? Again... stupid question.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are allowed to remain here for comic relief. People here either: a) feel sorry for you (I'm in that group), b) fear you and your bullying, or c) just put up with you like one puts up with a rabid little chihuahua you just kick across the room and yell at him to STFU.


You talk shit about quitting in the ring and gay boxers. And you have a fellow LA'er that has rolled all this up into one. And you continue to ignore the fact. And you continue to ignore the cheating ways of your other neighborhood douche bags. So why should I pay any attention to anything you have to grunt??


Finito was dumped on his ass because he was a racist little asshole who was too stupid to take advantage of the 20 chances he was given. Here's hoping you will soon follow suit.... and go back to sucking each other off in your ghetto neighborhood.

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Try to follow me on this very complicated point, shit-for-brains:


Cheering at some point for a fighter is not the same thing as defending his every move... even when he's wrong. Did you catch that? Or are there too many big words in there for you?


I cheered for Lopez from the beginning... he showed a lot of promise. After that judge debacle, I've been pretty lukewarm on the guy. Show me where I cheered him on after that fight. Don't just talk shit. Show me. What's that? You can't? I didn't think so. Now STFU.


You, on the other hand, shamelessly continue to cheer for and defend the likes of Melon Head, Margacheato (all the way to his retirement), and that low-life punk Rios. Those are YOUR heroes.


And don't even get me started on how you conveniently avoid the subject of the "stool-quitting", cross-dressing, closet gay De La Hoya. When it happens to one of your own, you can hear a pin drop from your side, because it's not convenient for you to admit this happens in all nationalities.


But forgive me for getting too complicated for you. I admit it must be hard for someone who brags about getting his wrist broken by a baseball bat to understand anything other than grunts and unitelligible noises.


Spare yourself further humiliation, scumbag. I'm getting tired of beating on and humiliating your ignorant ass. Do us all a favor.


Hang yourself.

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I'm happy cheering for the more classy fighters from my neighborhood.

You know what fag wrote that? You did. Clear as fucking day. So stop pretending you meant something else.

I know you stop cheering for Lopez. You abandon him going into the Garcia fight. Pretty much cuz you knew he was being led to slaughter. And slaughtered he was. You remained silent going into the De Leon fight cuz you knew the chance of getting blasted out was pretty high. Yet when that crocked ass ref from Welfare Island stops the fight early and gives Lopez the win, all of a sudden you come out and start talking about what a great win it was for him. How glad you were for him. Pretending you had his back from the start. Blah, blah, blah. Typical pussy behavior. You back him and suck his dick non-stop when you know he's going to win. But fuck supporting him when he's expected to lose. I knew a long time ago you weren't a boxing fan. You a groupie for fighters from welfare island. When there doing good. But your're not a boxing fan. And that's just one of the many reasons you're always getting humiliated here. And it's not just by me either. No. No. No. You stop being my personal punching bag awhile back. You're the forums punching bag now

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I'll be more than happy to drive yet another thread into the ground, if it means humiliating your ignorant ass yet again. We've all lost count of how many times this has happened.... but you just keep coming back for more. So more you'll get.


Tell me, asswipe... are you going to continue to blatantly ignore the parts of my post that hurt you the most and ring the most true?? Like totally ignoring where I accuse you to your face of having a double-standard when it comes to cheering for the scumbags from your side of the fence, while critizicing lesser evils in others? Are that much of a fucking fool? Wait... what the hell am I talking about. Of course you are.


Since you ignore the facts I rub across your ghetto boy face.... I'll do the same with your insistence about Lopez. You must have a hard-on for certain fighters... 'cause it's always the same old song and dance. Do you have any new material? Or do you just rehash the same tired old bullshit over and over again? Again... stupid question.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are allowed to remain here for comic relief. People here either: a) feel sorry for you (I'm in that group), b) fear you and your bullying, or c) just put up with you like one puts up with a rabid little chihuahua you just kick across the room and yell at him to STFU.


You talk shit about quitting in the ring and gay boxers. And you have a fellow LA'er that has rolled all this up into one. And you continue to ignore the fact. And you continue to ignore the cheating ways of your other neighborhood douche bags. So why should I pay any attention to anything you have to grunt??


Finito was dumped on his ass because he was a racist little asshole who was too stupid to take advantage of the 20 chances he was given. Here's hoping you will soon follow suit.... and go back to sucking each other off in your ghetto neighborhood.

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From what I hear Finito was finally let go due to the certain member complaining of harassment and being bullied. :lolhaha: Let me guess. He raped in a some thread (like everybody does) and as payback you went to the people in charged and said you were being bullied. Fucking pussy. Being the predictable faggot you are, i'm sure you'll deny it. Whatever

Like I said plenty of times before I don't agree nor can I relate with Oscar fag activities. He needs to seriously get off the drugs if that's what they make him do. And that's what they are. Fag activities. It's hilarious how you try to accuse me of the nonsense you always do. I got no problem calling any fighter out. I called out Oscar on his bullshit plenty of times. Unlike you. When it came out Cotto shares his bed with another man you didn't call him out on his fag actions. You tried to pretend it was no big deal and something normal. It's normal for fags like you, But it's not normal for a champion fighter who has more than enough money to pay for a 1000 beds.

Anyway go ahead and repeat the same shit I'm saying to you. Considering you're the Charlie Z of this forum go ahead and say you won again. Yay. It's hilarious how he actually wins more than you. Damn it sucks being you

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Chavez Jr fight, is good business for Froch and Hearn good money which is the main thing,
it's a fight Froch should win with ease.
Carl is in the twilight of his carer, there is wear and tear on his body so this fight makes good
sense,a fight with DeGale very little money and one he could lose, Ward fight a none starter
he would lose and make very little money.!
Maybe a fight with Kessler that would be a really hard fight again, remember Froch has a style
that he takes some to give some, and he's taken some stick the hole object of this game is
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I agree that Chavez is a good fight for Froch for Commercial reasons , and fair play to him , he's earnt the right to take it and good luck. But I don't see this being a fight that "Froch should win with ease".
The way Froch boxes, I don't think he's capable of winning any fights with the people mentioned with ease! (maybe Degale). Chavez is a big name (more due to his Dad than his skill) and more importantly a big earner. I don't think they would take a fight where they're not going to be competitive and don't feel they have a good chance of winning.
More importantly , in the States , they don't want to see a Brit come over and give an easy beating to one of their names. Team Chavez see this as a way of getting a bit of credibility and profile for their man against what they see as a technically limited boxer.
of course, it might not work out like that, but we'll see.

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I don't see Jr being much of a threat, he's tough but limited see Froch being to strong and heavy
handed, remember he made good money over here for the Groves fight eight million £8, lets
face it Jr is a name, Froch is not coming there to lose is he,! it's a good fight and worth watching.

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From what I hear Finito was finally let go due to the certain member complaining of harassment and being bullied. Blah blah blah blah blah.....

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You mean I got that kind of power? I don't think so. If I did... you'd have been out on your ghetto ass a long time ago. Well.... maybe not. If not you, who else would provide the forum with a clown to laugh at day in and day out? Believe me.... your presence here gives us all something to laugh at each day.

Froch was struggling with a up and coming prospect in his last few fights i mean Groves never been world level yet maybe sometime down the road. I will say i think this is a good idea i would also like to him face Bika and then maybe a go away fight with Kessler would be good for him to.

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From what I hear Finito was finally let go due to the certain member complaining of harassment and being bullied. Blah blah blah blah blah.....

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You mean I got that kind of power? I don't think so. If I did... you'd have been out on your ghetto ass a long time ago. Well.... maybe not. If not you, who else would provide the forum with a clown to laugh at day in and day out? Believe me.... your presence here gives us all something to laugh at each day.

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You don't even believe yourself. Look what I reduce you too. Recycling the same shit I'm telling you. Only difference is your posts are pure fiction. I only deal in facts. Your lame lies are just one of the many reasons you're the forums punching bag. Aside from my daily beatings on you, look how many times GB made you his bitch? Finitio was raping you on a daily basis. Lyle is constantly humiliating you. And that's not even including the UK mods who took turns molesting you more times than your uncles did when you were a little kid. Like I said. Facts don't lie

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From what I hear Finito was finally let go due to the certain member complaining of harassment and being bullied. Blah blah blah blah blah.....

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You mean I got that kind of power? I don't think so. If I did... you'd have been out on your ghetto ass a long time ago. Well.... maybe not. If not you, who else would provide the forum with a clown to laugh at day in and day out? Believe me.... your presence here gives us all something to laugh at each day.

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You don't even believe yourself. Look what I reduce you too. Recycling the same shit I'm telling you. Only difference is your posts are pure fiction. I only deal in facts. Your lame lies are just one of the many reasons you're the forums punching bag. Aside from my daily beatings on you, look how many times GB made you his bitch? Finitio was raping you on a daily basis. Lyle is constantly humiliating you. And that's not even including the UK mods who took turns molesting you more times than your uncles did when you were a little kid. Like I said. Facts don't lie

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Bringing others into your personal affairs is the true mark of a dickless wimp who can't fend for himself. Go borrow a pair of balls, and no.... don't suck on them. That's what you and Finito do to each other in your ghetto alley home. Borrow a pair of balls and stand up for yourself. Forget the rest of the forum. They got better things to do than read the back-and-forth bullshit between you and me. And seeing as to how you can play ghetto-homeboy-tough guy behind the safety of your keyboard..... there's hardly any point in continuing this pointless exchange of insults. Although truth be told it's hardly a fair contest. You're an illiterate moron, raised on the crack-ridden streets of your slum by your whore mom.... barely able to grunt intelligently in one language. While I had more education than you when I passed into the 6th grade. Your "insults" are laughable and embarrassing. Everyone here knows you're nothing but the forum clown. Me..... I ridicule you to my heart's content. Well..... when I drop into the forum every now and then, that is. You, on the other hand, can't wait to come running to the keyboard to launch your latest tired song-and-dance. In actuality, I feel sorry for you, dickless moron.

Nothing personal...

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From what I hear Finito was finally let go due to the certain member complaining of harassment and being bullied. Blah blah blah blah blah.....

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You mean I got that kind of power? I don't think so. If I did... you'd have been out on your ghetto ass a long time ago. Well.... maybe not. If not you, who else would provide the forum with a clown to laugh at day in and day out? Believe me.... your presence here gives us all something to laugh at each day.

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You don't even believe yourself. Look what I reduce you too. Recycling the same shit I'm telling you. Only difference is your posts are pure fiction. I only deal in facts. Your lame lies are just one of the many reasons you're the forums punching bag. Aside from my daily beatings on you, look how many times GB made you his bitch? Finitio was raping you on a daily basis. Lyle is constantly humiliating you. And that's not even including the UK mods who took turns molesting you more times than your uncles did when you were a little kid. Like I said. Facts don't lie

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Bringing others into your personal affairs is the true mark of a dickless wimp who can't fend for himself. Go borrow a pair of balls, and no.... don't suck on them. That's what you and Finito do to each other in your ghetto alley home. Borrow a pair of balls and stand up for yourself. Forget the rest of the forum. They got better things to do than read the back-and-forth bullshit between you and me. And seeing as to how you can play ghetto-homeboy-tough guy behind the safety of your keyboard..... there's hardly any point in continuing this pointless exchange of insults. Although truth be told it's hardly a fair contest. You're an illiterate moron, raised on the crack-ridden streets of your slum by your whore mom.... barely able to grunt intelligently in one language. While I had more education than you when I passed into the 6th grade. Your "insults" are laughable and embarrassing. Everyone here knows you're nothing but the forum clown. Me..... I ridicule you to my heart's content. Well..... when I drop into the forum every now and then, that is. You, on the other hand, can't wait to come running to the keyboard to launch your latest tired song-and-dance. In actuality, I feel sorry for you, dickless moron.

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There is no back and forth between me and you. There never is. it's just me telling you what you are and laughing at you. While you repeat the same lame nonsense over and over. Like the punch drunk punching bag you are. Either way the thread has to be in the first page for me to respond. If not I won't bother with it. You on the other hand do. As soon as it's your turn on the library computer again you go straight to whatever thread you're being ridicule on. Responding to posts almost 2 weeks old. It would be sad if it wasn't so fucking funny

Enough of this pointless shit, punk. You wanna talk facts? Let's talk facts:

1. I criticized and did not defend JuanMa on his tirade against the judge after getting knocked out by Salido. You on the other hand defended Margacheato after the plaster fiasco, and criticized his suspension. Show me where it says differently, or shut the fuck up.
2. You blast Cotto for "quitting", as well as make some ridiculous generalizations, but I bring up De La Hoya's quitting and you defend it and explain it away with some even more ridiculous statements. Again, prove me wrong, or STFU.
3. You call yourself "boxing-knowledgeable", but you called it "a sad day for boxing" when Cotto took Margacheato to boxing school in their 2nd fight. You also laughingly claim it was Melon Head who ruined Martinez, when every intelligent human being on Earth knows it was Martinez who ruined Martinez by coming back too early. More bullshit from you.
4. When things don't go your way, you're nowhere to be seen. Show me one instance where you pointed out how wrong CJ Ross was in awarding Ginger a draw against Mayweather. One instance. One. On top of being a moron, you're not man enough to own up to your losses.

Need I go on? Those are the facts. Unless you have something other than "mothafukka" to come back with, STFU. You have zero credibility here. Zero. You like to play the bully part, but only the few ignorant wimps among us allow themselves to be bullied. The rest either just laugh at you... ignore you... or a little of both.

Again, ghetto bitch..... I said "facts".


Unless you have any of those, I would advise you to keep your slumboy mouth shut, and keep playing "fisting derby" with your homeboy Finito.

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Enough of this pointless shit, punk. You wanna talk facts? Let's talk facts:

1. I criticized and did not defend JuanMa on his tirade against the judge after getting knocked out by Salido. You on the other hand defended Margacheato after the plaster fiasco, and criticized his suspension. Show me where it says differently, or shut the fuck up.
2. You blast Cotto for "quitting", as well as make some ridiculous generalizations, but I bring up De La Hoya's quitting and you defend it and explain it away with some even more ridiculous statements. Again, prove me wrong, or STFU.
3. You call yourself "boxing-knowledgeable", but you called it "a sad day for boxing" when Cotto took Margacheato to boxing school in their 2nd fight. You also laughingly claim it was Melon Head who ruined Martinez, when every intelligent human being on Earth knows it was Martinez who ruined Martinez by coming back too early. More bullshit from you.
4. When things don't go your way, you're nowhere to be seen. Show me one instance where you pointed out how wrong CJ Ross was in awarding Ginger a draw against Mayweather. One instance. One. On top of being a moron, you're not man enough to own up to your losses.

Need I go on? Those are the facts. Unless you have something other than "mothafukka" to come back with, STFU. You have zero credibility here. Zero. You like to play the bully part, but only the few ignorant wimps among us allow themselves to be bullied. The rest either just laugh at you... ignore you... or a little of both.

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Facts are all I know

1, I had no problem with Margarito's suspension. Rather he knew what his trainer did or not didn't matter. Cuz it was Margarito's team. And he's responsible for his teams actions. I don't defend Margarito for what happened the night of the Mosley fight. I defend Margarito when broken heart little girls claim he cheated the night he tortured Miguel Cotto. Cuz remember. We using facts. Fact. Margarito wraps were checked and cleared by the Nevada commission. Fact. You claim Margarito cheated. But fact. You have no proof other than your broken heart. Come on. Show the facts that he cheated.

2, Fact. Miguel Cotto took a knee without being hit and waited for the ref to save him. Fact. That's quitting. Fact. De La Hoya was actually hit when he went down. Your opinion of the punch is irrelevant. Cuz fact. You never in your life been in a ring. So who the fuck are you to say a punch from the middleweight champion doesn't hurt? Fact. You're a nobody.

3, Fact. Martinez knee was injured in the Chavez fight. Fact. It was injured when Chavez knocked him down. Fact. Martinez hasn't been the same since. So yes the Chavez fight ruined Martinez. Fact. You're stupid. So I don't expect you to understand

4, The desperation. Fact. It is hilarious. Why the fuck do I need to say Ross card was bad? Fact. Everybody already fucking knew it was bad. Fucking dumbass. Why don't you show me where I defended the card? Why don't you show me where I said I thought he won. Better yet show me where I ever said Alvarez was gonna beat Mayweather. You not gonna find one. Cuz fact. I never expected Alvarez to win.

Fact. This is to fucking easy.

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Enough of this pointless shit, punk. You wanna talk facts? Let's talk facts:

1. I criticized and did not defend JuanMa on his tirade against the judge after getting knocked out by Salido. You on the other hand defended Margacheato after the plaster fiasco, and criticized his suspension. Show me where it says differently, or shut the fuck up.
2. You blast Cotto for "quitting", as well as make some ridiculous generalizations, but I bring up De La Hoya's quitting and you defend it and explain it away with some even more ridiculous statements. Again, prove me wrong, or STFU.
3. You call yourself "boxing-knowledgeable", but you called it "a sad day for boxing" when Cotto took Margacheato to boxing school in their 2nd fight. You also laughingly claim it was Melon Head who ruined Martinez, when every intelligent human being on Earth knows it was Martinez who ruined Martinez by coming back too early. More bullshit from you.
4. When things don't go your way, you're nowhere to be seen. Show me one instance where you pointed out how wrong CJ Ross was in awarding Ginger a draw against Mayweather. One instance. One. On top of being a moron, you're not man enough to own up to your losses.

Need I go on? Those are the facts. Unless you have something other than "mothafukka" to come back with, STFU. You have zero credibility here. Zero. You like to play the bully part, but only the few ignorant wimps among us allow themselves to be bullied. The rest either just laugh at you... ignore you... or a little of both.

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Facts are all I know

1, I had no problem with Margarito's suspension. Rather he knew what his trainer did or not didn't matter. Cuz it was Margarito's team. And he's responsible for his teams actions. I don't defend Margarito for what happened the night of the Mosley fight. I defend Margarito when broken heart little girls claim he cheated the night he tortured Miguel Cotto. Cuz remember. We using facts. Fact. Margarito wraps were checked and cleared by the Nevada commission. Fact. You claim Margarito cheated. But fact. You have no proof other than your broken heart. Come on. Show the facts that he cheated.

2, Fact. Miguel Cotto took a knee without being hit and waited for the ref to save him. Fact. That's quitting. Fact. De La Hoya was actually hit when he went down. Your opinion of the punch is irrelevant. Cuz fact. You never in your life been in a ring. So who the fuck are you to say a punch from the middleweight champion doesn't hurt? Fact. You're a nobody.

3, Fact. Martinez knee was injured in the Chavez fight. Fact. It was injured when Chavez knocked him down. Fact. Martinez hasn't been the same since. So yes the Chavez fight ruined Martinez. Fact. You're stupid. So I don't expect you to understand

4, The desperation. Fact. It is hilarious. Why the fuck do I need to say Ross card was bad? Fact. Everybody already fucking knew it was bad. Fucking dumbass. Why don't you show me where I defended the card? Why don't you show me where I said I thought he won. Better yet show me where I ever said Alvarez was gonna beat Mayweather. You not gonna find one. Cuz fact. I never expected Alvarez to win.

Fact. This is to fucking easy.

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You barely know how to read, so I shouldn't have expected you to understand when I said I wanted facts. Now I know why elementary school teachers are special people. They must have infinite amounts of patience. Difference is they're dealing with kids. You're supposed to be an adult. Let me patiently go back and fix your glaring errors.

1. This one's an outright lie. You defended Margacheato and criticized his punishment. When "piece-of-shit" Sulaiman started crying and claiming Margacheato's suspension should be canceled, you were all over that shit, agreeing with the old scumbag. So you either have an early case of Alzheimers, or you're just a habitual liar. I'd go for the latter.
2. Don't be such a moron. I know you can't help yourself. But try. Whenever I talk about De La Hoya quitting, I'm referring to his quitting on his stool against Pac. Whenever I want to talk about De La Hoya's acting...... THEN I'll talk about his Oscar-worthy display against BHop. And if I ever want to talk about sexual orientation, I'll talk about De La Hoya's fishnets and dildo encounters. But meanwhile, try to focus your pea-sized brain on the example at hand. He quit on his stool. Think you can remember that, moron?
3. Now you're pushing the boundaries of stupidity. You're not a moron. You're brain-dead. Might as well go stand on the freeway and get it over with. Your 2nd-grade logic doesn't fool anybody (well.... except maybe Finito, and his ass is outta here). Let's get one thing straight. You claimed Melon Head ruined Martinez. FACT. Now be a weasel and deny it all you want. There are actual quotes of you saying that Melon Head ruined Martinez. Newsflash, asswipe: Melon Head didn't ruin anybody. Martinez ruined his own career by coming back too early from a knee injury he sustained in the Melon Head fight. So it was Martinez who ruined himself. Now.... I'm trying to keep everything below 2 syllables, so you should be able to struggle through at least parts of it.
4. And now you're bailing out and being a little bitch about it. I don't even need to respond to that. All I need to do is let it remain there like a steaming pile of shit. You're gonna sit there like a little bitch and whine about never thinking Ginger would beat Floyd... what can I say. You have an opinion about everything else, usually unsolicited opinions. So your disappearing act after Floyd's humiliation of Ginger smelled and tasted like the act of a sore little bitch..... cause we all know you have calluses on the back of your throat courtesy of the Three Musketeers. Ginger, Melon Head, and Margacheato.

BTW, nice try ignoring the other facts I slapped your ghetto-ass face with. You go on and on about me defending JuanMa on his outburst at the ref, but when I challenge you to produce one piece of evidence, you go and hide like the little ghetto bitch you are. Not one peep out of your semen-filled mouth.


Another one you ignored was the "sad day for boxing" reference. Which only means you must know how much of a moron you exposed yourself as being, cause again not one peep out of your mouth. It hurts being exposed, huh little bitch? And it must hurt even more having me doing the exposing.


But back to my 4th sentence on # 3. I wasn't kidding. Do it.
Really.

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Enough of this pointless shit, punk. You wanna talk facts? Let's talk facts:

1. I criticized and did not defend JuanMa on his tirade against the judge after getting knocked out by Salido. You on the other hand defended Margacheato after the plaster fiasco, and criticized his suspension. Show me where it says differently, or shut the fuck up.
2. You blast Cotto for "quitting", as well as make some ridiculous generalizations, but I bring up De La Hoya's quitting and you defend it and explain it away with some even more ridiculous statements. Again, prove me wrong, or STFU.
3. You call yourself "boxing-knowledgeable", but you called it "a sad day for boxing" when Cotto took Margacheato to boxing school in their 2nd fight. You also laughingly claim it was Melon Head who ruined Martinez, when every intelligent human being on Earth knows it was Martinez who ruined Martinez by coming back too early. More bullshit from you.
4. When things don't go your way, you're nowhere to be seen. Show me one instance where you pointed out how wrong CJ Ross was in awarding Ginger a draw against Mayweather. One instance. One. On top of being a moron, you're not man enough to own up to your losses.

Need I go on? Those are the facts. Unless you have something other than "mothafukka" to come back with, STFU. You have zero credibility here. Zero. You like to play the bully part, but only the few ignorant wimps among us allow themselves to be bullied. The rest either just laugh at you... ignore you... or a little of both.

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Facts are all I know

1, I had no problem with Margarito's suspension. Rather he knew what his trainer did or not didn't matter. Cuz it was Margarito's team. And he's responsible for his teams actions. I don't defend Margarito for what happened the night of the Mosley fight. I defend Margarito when broken heart little girls claim he cheated the night he tortured Miguel Cotto. Cuz remember. We using facts. Fact. Margarito wraps were checked and cleared by the Nevada commission. Fact. You claim Margarito cheated. But fact. You have no proof other than your broken heart. Come on. Show the facts that he cheated.

2, Fact. Miguel Cotto took a knee without being hit and waited for the ref to save him. Fact. That's quitting. Fact. De La Hoya was actually hit when he went down. Your opinion of the punch is irrelevant. Cuz fact. You never in your life been in a ring. So who the fuck are you to say a punch from the middleweight champion doesn't hurt? Fact. You're a nobody.

3, Fact. Martinez knee was injured in the Chavez fight. Fact. It was injured when Chavez knocked him down. Fact. Martinez hasn't been the same since. So yes the Chavez fight ruined Martinez. Fact. You're stupid. So I don't expect you to understand

4, The desperation. Fact. It is hilarious. Why the fuck do I need to say Ross card was bad? Fact. Everybody already fucking knew it was bad. Fucking dumbass. Why don't you show me where I defended the card? Why don't you show me where I said I thought he won. Better yet show me where I ever said Alvarez was gonna beat Mayweather. You not gonna find one. Cuz fact. I never expected Alvarez to win.

Fact. This is to fucking easy.

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You barely know how to read, so I shouldn't have expected you to understand when I said I wanted facts. Now I know why elementary school teachers are special people. They must have infinite amounts of patience. Difference is they're dealing with kids. You're supposed to be an adult. Let me patiently go back and fix your glaring errors.

1. This one's an outright lie. You defended Margacheato and criticized his punishment. When "piece-of-shit" Sulaiman started crying and claiming Margacheato's suspension should be canceled, you were all over that shit, agreeing with the old scumbag. So you either have an early case of Alzheimers, or you're just a habitual liar. I'd go for the latter.
2. Don't be such a moron. I know you can't help yourself. But try. Whenever I talk about De La Hoya quitting, I'm referring to his quitting on his stool against Pac. Whenever I want to talk about De La Hoya's acting...... THEN I'll talk about his Oscar-worthy display against BHop. And if I ever want to talk about sexual orientation, I'll talk about De La Hoya's fishnets and dildo encounters. But meanwhile, try to focus your pea-sized brain on the example at hand. He quit on his stool. Think you can remember that, moron?
3. Now you're pushing the boundaries of stupidity. You're not a moron. You're brain-dead. Might as well go stand on the freeway and get it over with. Your 2nd-grade logic doesn't fool anybody (well.... except maybe Finito, and his ass is outta here). Let's get one thing straight. You claimed Melon Head ruined Martinez. FACT. Now be a weasel and deny it all you want. There are actual quotes of you saying that Melon Head ruined Martinez. Newsflash, asswipe: Melon Head didn't ruin anybody. Martinez ruined his own career by coming back too early from a knee injury he sustained in the Melon Head fight. So it was Martinez who ruined himself. Now.... I'm trying to keep everything below 2 syllables, so you should be able to struggle through at least parts of it.
4. And now you're bailing out and being a little bitch about it. I don't even need to respond to that. All I need to do is let it remain there like a steaming pile of shit. You're gonna sit there like a little bitch and whine about never thinking Ginger would beat Floyd... what can I say. You have an opinion about everything else, usually unsolicited opinions. So your disappearing act after Floyd's humiliation of Ginger smelled and tasted like the act of a sore little bitch..... cause we all know you have calluses on the back of your throat courtesy of the Three Musketeers. Ginger, Melon Head, and Margacheato.

BTW, nice try ignoring the other facts I slapped your ghetto-ass face with. You go on and on about me defending JuanMa on his outburst at the ref, but when I challenge you to produce one piece of evidence, you go and hide like the little ghetto bitch you are. Not one peep out of your semen-filled mouth.


Another one you ignored was the "sad day for boxing" reference. Which only means you must know how much of a moron you exposed yourself as being, cause again not one peep out of your mouth. It hurts being exposed, huh little bitch? And it must hurt even more having me doing the exposing.


But back to my 4th sentence on # 3. I wasn't kidding. Do it.
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I never, ever seen somebody hate themselves as much as you hate yourself. Why else would you allow yourself to constantly be humiliated? Like when your mom is getting dick in her ass, I think you actually seem to enjoy it. Just like the local high school football team appeases your mom and stick all there dicks in her ass. I'm gonna appease you and yet again make a fool of you by sticking to the facts. Something you fail to do

1, It's funny how I answered your question. Than see you coward out when it gets re-directed to you. I'm still waiting on them facts that Margarito cheated the night he broke your heart and took Cotto's heart and zero.

2, A lot of times I just sit back and let you make a fool of yourself. This is one of them times. Fact. De La Hoya's corner stopped the fight. Fact. De La Hoya's corner wanted to stop fight the previous round. Prove them facts are wrong

3, Fact. Martinez doctor cleared Martinez to fight in January. Fact. Martinez fought Martin Murray at the end of April. So this is were we stand. We got a doctor who said he was fine to fight. And we got you who claims he came back to soon. Who the fuck should people believe? The man with a medical degree? Or the chump who's only medical contact comes when his mom makes him tag along to the free clinic every times her herpes flares up? I'm rolling with the doctor. Bottom line is this. Martinez could of sat out 5 years and it wouldn't of done his knee any good. Cuz it's ruined. And when was it ruined? Fact. In the Chavez fight. Fact. Chavez ruined Martinez. Like 2 + 2 = 4. It's that simple. But since you think 2 + 2 = wagon, I don't expect you to understand. Either way, everybody knows you hate that the Chavez name allows Jr to earn big money while the Jr's from Welfare Island have to practically pan handle just to get a chicken sandwich.

4, Facts bitch. Lets see them.

You're boring the entire forum, and me as well.
I've devoted more time to this, and you, than is deserved.
But you're a disadvantaged youth.... so I feel it's my humanitarian duty to help a moronic life form in need.

This was my first, initial point:

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1, It's funny how I answered your question. Than see you coward out when it gets re-directed to you. I'm still waiting on them facts that Margarito cheated the night he broke your heart and took Cotto's heart and zero.

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I challenged you to produce proof I ever defended JuanMa on his comments about the ref.... and you've refused to be a man and back up your accusations. You ignore it like the bitch you are.

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2, Fact. De La Hoya's corner stopped the fight. Fact. De La Hoya's corner wanted to stop fight the previous round. Prove them facts are wrong

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Seriously.... does anyone other than you and De La Hoya's family believe this shit? DLH even knows you're wrong. De La Hoya was asked whether he wanted to continue. He said no. He'd had enough. So the corner stopped the fight. He quit on his stool. After getting beaten from pillar to post by the smaller man. The ruse failed. The big name scalp was tougher than he had bargained for. There were movies to make off his famous face. No reason to take more of a beating. You're confusing De La Hoya with Joe Frazier and Eddie Futch against Ali. Joe wanted to continue. He was a warrior. The corner stopped the fight against Joe's wishes. Joe was visibly disappointed and upset. Oscar was relieved.

You're a stupid fuck, so I don't expect you to comprehend any of this.

On # 3, your stupitidy continues.

• In the Murray fight, was Martinez's knee 100%? Answer: NO
• Was he in fight-ready shape? Answer: NO
• Given the circumstances, should anyone give a fuck what a medical doctor, witch doctor, or any other kind of doctor says pre-fight? Answer: NO
• Could Martinez have waited longer and used more therapy on his knee before going into the ring, and be 100%? Answer: YES

You originally claimed "CHAVEZ RUINED MARTINEZ". Not that the Chavez fight ruined Martinez. If we're going to split straws, what you implied was wrong. But you're a moron, so obviously you won't understand that either.

BTW.... this is 4th time you've ignored the "sad day for boxing" thread you started. I'm going to keep bringing it up until you grow some balls and admit how stupid you were when you wrote that.

And # 4.... facts about what, moron? That you pull a disappearing act when events don't go your way? That you disappear for a month after getting your ass handed to you? What facts do you want? Everyone knows this to be the truth. You criticize every decision against one of your boys. But in this case you knew you'd like more of an ass than you usually do.... and pulled a disappearing act.

Sad.... bitch... just sad.

There is nothing more annoying in this world than stupid muthafukkas like you? Why? Cuz not only are you to stupid to know anything. But you're to stupid realize you don't know anything. Seriously read the stupidity you been writing. I can't believe how fucking lame you are.

1, This right here is the lamest of all your nonsense. You're pathetic attempt at trying to give yourself credit shows you really are a bitch. You didn't defend Lopez cuz there was nothing to defend. The words came out of his fucking mouth on live TV. There was no defense available. But even though you claim to not agree with what he said you tried to excuse it by saying he shouldn't of been interviewed at the moment. That he was still out of it. Blah. Blah. Blah. If Lopez was Mexican you would of started multiple threads talking shit about him.

2, I seen the bitch already. Now the I wanna see the coward in you come out. So I'm a ask point blank. A fighter takes a knee without being hit and waits for the ref to count him out. Did he quit? It's a simple yes or no question.

3, Facts muthafukka. Facts. Stick to them. Stupid muthafukka. Why didn't they drown you at birth? Understand this bitch. You are not a doctor. You will never be a doctor. If the world blew up and the only people left were you and a kid with down syndrome you still wouldn't be the doctor. The kid would be the doctor. You claiming Martinez knee wasn't ready means nothing. It is not a fact. It's an opinion. A fucking stupid, ignorant opinion made by a stupid, ignorant bitch like you. The opinion of Martinez personal doctor is the one that counts. And he cleared Martinez. And that's a fact.

4, Show me where I said Alvarez was gonna beat Floyd. Shouldn't be to hard since you claim I was saying it non-stop.

Oh yeah. Bitch. Fag. stupid muthafukka. You already know what you are. Just post something at least somewhat interesting. But I'm sure you're gonna stay with the same pattern of asking stupid, lame questions that I already answered while cowardly avoiding the questions directed back to you

Hahahaha..... I can just see you frothing at the mouth while your mommy types those words, 'cause of course you didn't learn how to spell in grammar school. You have become one angry little rabid chihuahua. I hope your blood pressure didn't go up or anything. I wouldn't want you to die of a massive aneurysm. No.... I'd rather you live and keep building up anger over how much you get humiliated by me.


Let's see..... by my count.... that's about half dozen "muthafukkas", about the same number of "bitches", a dozen or so "fucks". But you're slipping slumdog. Not once did you mention your favorite passtime...... sucking dick.


So let me see if I got this right:

1. First you accuse me of defending Lopez when he insulted the referee..... THEN I called you out on it, demanding you produce proof of your lie..... then you run for cover and say I didn't defend him 'cause "there's nothing to defend". You hear that laughter? It isn't in your head..... it's real.
2. You don't call the shots, asswipe. I do. The issue is De La Hoya quitting on his stool. You (cough) claim the corner stopped the fight over DLH's objections. Yeah..... and I've got some beachfront property in Kansas you might be interested in. It's even got a Turkish bath for your gay flings with Finito, and a shooting-up gallery so you can indulge.
3. Once again..... your stupidity shows through loud and clear. A doctor cleared Martinez (wink, wink)... so he was ready to fight. You know what the problem REALLY is? You're so devastated over the degree to which Melon Head was schooled and humiliated by Martinez..... you'll go to ANY lengths to give Melon Head credit for anything..... real or not. I'd say you're pathetic, but you're beyond pathetic.
4. Ahhh.... Ginger. Know what? It's too much trouble to go dredge up your moronic posts from the past claiming this and claiming that about the over-hyped Ginger, who again was schooled and exposed by Floyd. But who knows.... maybe you didn't say anything. You were probably too busy deep-throating the boy.

Oh..... and lest you think I forgot...... that's FIVE POSTS IN A ROW where you cowardly refuse to answer my accusation about your moronic "Sad Day for Boxing" thread on the 2nd Cotto- Margacheato fight. You see it...... it digs a hole in your gut..... you choose to ignore it. And yet you have the nerve to call other people bitches. You're not only a bitch.... you're dickless.


I can see the little tiny blood vessels popping out of your temples as you foam at the mouth over your humiliations. Why couldn't I just be more like your "Brokeback Mountain" buddy Finito and hang on your every word? Why do exist, only to humiliate your ghetto ass..... over and over and over and over again.


BTW... I asked you to go stand on the freeway.
What's the holdup?

What does any of this have to do with Froch vs Chavez Jnr..