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He stinks out the arena with his running and grabbing and clinching. Plus he has no power. He's a spoiler, and boxing fans dont like spoilers. Reminds me of 2 other boring fighters who are spoilers: Floyd and Broner. Never be popular, boring as hell, fans will never support him. Just look. No fights. No fans. I dont feel sorry for him AT ALL. He just doesnt have that charisma that other fighters have, either. BIG DUD.
So do fans have to like you to be an ATG?
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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
you know what mate, it helps
perhaps it shouldn't but it does
Jealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
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Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
ha, funny
how do you feel about joe calzaghe cyclone?
would you say you had a typical limey affliction?
Joe was a shitty fear-based slapper...as you well know.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
ha, funny
how do you feel about joe calzaghe cyclone?
would you say you had a typical limey affliction?
@Dia bando hahaha mate this bloke made it easy for me here---no we didnt set this upo mate!! Ready????:Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
WHO SAID I LOVE CALZAGHE !!!!!!!!!! BWWWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!:D
Calm down baby-cakes...you're rambling again.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust@Dia bando hahaha mate this bloke made it easy for me here---no we didnt set this upo mate!! Ready????:Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
WHO SAID I LOVE CALZAGHE !!!!!!!!!! BWWWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!:D
Maybe so, but he beats Froch every day of the week. FACT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Froch needs Wards skills and defense every day of the week.FACT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMaybe so, but he beats Froch every day of the week. FACT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
He leaves his head on a Tee after every punch.
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Originally Posted by cycloneJoe was a shitty fear-based slapper...as you well know.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
ha, funny
how do you feel about joe calzaghe cyclone?
would you say you had a typical limey affliction?
think there might be any jealousy and hatred blindness fuelling that opinion?
You don't like him but I think I'll be patient for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
He does have a style that I dislike, plus I'm not sure he can or even wants to change, but I think he knows he has to do something different.
Positives are, amazing reflexes/athletic ability, amazing poise/confidence, patient/cautious, great defense, and rarely out of position.
Negatives are, patient/cautious, and you are right about him being like Floyd in one way, he has never wanted to fight like, and never will fight like Rocky Marciano. A split nose just doesn't appeal to all off us. LOL
You are right though, he can be as boring as a clean, white bucket, of clear, still water. Hope he can make some changes.
Really? When has he fought outside of America? Who was the last world class super middle he stopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
27-0 with 25 fights inside the USA. He acts like a he's a huge star yet he's not. He refuses to take random drug test he has an ugly boring style and he has a worse personality then Bradley. How someone can actually be a fan of he's is just beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossReally? When has he fought outside of America? Who was the last world class super middle he stopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneJealousy and hateraid blindness....a typical limey affliction.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
At least Ward has more power and BALLS than The Welsh Rabbit...not to mention a superior resume and fighting style.
Joe ran..slappped...and CLINCHED...then the ref inexplicably jumped in to stop the "fight"
How one can hate Ward and love Calzhage is a mystery.
Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.
Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You are making too much out of those 2 rounds, what about the other 10. You could say the same thing about him in the Froch fight. Ward is good at what he does, he is the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
When he got tired and he couldn't hold he had no technical ability to rely on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are making too much out of those 2 rounds, what about the other 10. You could say the same thing about him in the Froch fight. Ward is good at what he does, he is the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ward has had a more impressive run as 168 champ n beaten much better competition (in their primes). I think Ward has a good shot to become an ATG, he just needs guys to actually fight him. I used to doubt him but he proved himself to me in the Super 6 tournament. He beat very impressive competition and you know you are confident when you beat up Sakio Bika as a stay busy fight during the tournament.
Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNot everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.
Khan is a mini Ruiz
Joe was a min Carlos Molina.
You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.
lennox lewis :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclonePoor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNot everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.
Khan is a mini Ruiz
Joe was a min Carlos Molina.
You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.
Mayweather has stepped it up over the last 5 to 10 fights. To me, he is no longer a 'boring' fighter.
and Randy Turpin...Henry CooperQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterlennox lewis :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclonePoor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNot everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.
Khan is a mini Ruiz
Joe was a min Carlos Molina.
You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.
Ya'll have too much heritige to hype trash like Joe Calzhage..ya'll should have had that guy killed years ago.;D
If I were British and wanted to jock somebody I'd start with Carl Froch
Now that's a fucking fighter
His main problem is that he tends to overthink....he has so many tools and trix up his sleeves that sometimes he gets caught in no-man's land.
He figured Ward out too late and ran out of rounds...I'd love to see the rematch..especially at Wembley.
Andre is leaving a lot of money on the table by not taking that fight in the UK.
One day he might regret it.
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Originally Posted by Masterlennox lewis :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclonePoor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNot everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.
Khan is a mini Ruiz
Joe was a min Carlos Molina.
You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.
Froch could never beat Calzaghe, so why would we rave about Carl when he will never be the best at the weight?Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneand Randy Turpin...Henry CooperQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterlennox lewis :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclonePoor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNot everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography;DQuote:
Originally Posted by cycloneWatch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.
I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.
If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.
Ward s a mini John Ruiz.
Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.
Khan is a mini Ruiz
Joe was a min Carlos Molina.
You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.
Ya'll have too much heritige to hype trash like Joe Calzhage..ya'll should have had that guy killed years ago.;D
If I were British and wanted to jock somebody I'd start with Carl Froch
Now that's a fucking fighter
His main problem is that he tends to overthink....he has so many tools and trix up his sleeves that sometimes he gets caught in no-man's land.
He figured Ward out too late and ran out of rounds...I'd love to see the rematch..especially at Wembley.
Andre is leaving a lot of money on the table by not taking that fight in the UK.
One day he might regret it.
Poppycock.
Froch would catch cal-soggy.
Late ko.
As usual for carl.
Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
calzaghe has never been knocked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterRemind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.
so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?
In Boxing anything is possible but it is highly improbable. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterRemind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
calzaghe has never been knocked out.
froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.
so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?
Remember Joe beat Roy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIn Boxing anything is possible but it is highly improbable. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterRemind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
calzaghe has never been knocked out.
froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.
so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?
Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.
Oh wait i got it you shit one Wald and Calzaghe but do nothing but praise Ward and Mayweather. I wonder what Wald and Cazlaghe have in common that you hate there so different but oh wait there white thats got to be it. Sorry if hate white people i guess i not sure what else it could be about it.
Oh stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Compared to Ward and Mayweather,
Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.
If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.
We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.
The bar is set much higher in the US.
Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.
Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.
Shows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneOh stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Compared to Ward and Mayweather,
Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.
If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.
We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.
The bar is set much higher in the US.
Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.
Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.
Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Big deal.
All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.
Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.;D
He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.
Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised???
Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..
Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.
Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.
Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.
Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.
American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.;D
I'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeShows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneOh stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Compared to Ward and Mayweather,
Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.
If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.
We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.
The bar is set much higher in the US.
Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.
Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.
So would you.
Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.
Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.
Joe never score a flat out KO.
Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.
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Originally Posted by cycloneJermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Big deal.
All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.
Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.;D
He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.
Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised???
Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..
Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.
Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.
Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.
Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.
American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.;D
How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?
Im not keen on either to be honest. I much prefer to watch Bika fight, but that doesnt make him better.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneI'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeShows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneOh stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Compared to Ward and Mayweather,
Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.
If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.
We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.
The bar is set much higher in the US.
Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.
Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.
So would you.
Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.
Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.
Joe never score a flat out KO.
Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.
Ottke was feather fisted and it was a freak shot that knocked out Mundine. Ottke never did it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneI'd rather watch Ward than Joe Calzhage..Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeShows what I know. I thought Ward was white and I still dont like him. Hes a great boxer but dont enjoy his style.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneOh stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Compared to Ward and Mayweather,
Vlad and Calzhage ARE shit...as you well know.
If Vlad and Joke were Black you'd be rolling across the floor laughing at that trash.
We're not hard-up for hero's like ya'll are...we don't have to prop up any and everything that oozes between the ropes for lack of quality fighters.
The bar is set much higher in the US.
Look at all Mayweather has done and he still gets stick...compare his career to Joe's if you want a good laugh.
Floyd's career is better than Joe and Vlad's combined...same with his skills.
So would you.
Hell I'd rather watch Sven Ottke than The Welsh Rabbit.
Ottke laid Mundine out COLD.
Joe never score a flat out KO.
Kessler couldn't stop Mundine and he's supposed to be all that.