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Can you be anymore impressed with this little run? Canon fodder, then mid-level titlists and then eliminators after this- and after that, he is ranked and people have to pay attention to him as he still is exciting to watch.
More than 2/3rds of the guys in the top 15 of the HW division would make more money sparring Briggs than they would make fighting each other at this stage.
Let the Big Man through.... this is the last and final Shanon Briggs run. And it's looking god.
It's hard to care about a guy who hasn't actually fought one hard round in over a decade. He's a character and he can still punch, so he might get another big fight. Would be more interesting to see him as a test for some up and comers at this point, but he probably has no interest in fighting a live body unless he gets paid.
That's what makes it interesting... he is gonna talk himself into a big fight. And if it is a contender out there, he is going to make the fight very lucrative for that contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Briggs is all in... this may not be on the scale of George Foreman, but this is shaping up to be better than Tyson's second run.
His body looks good, but it's all illusion as he's got literally nothing left as a World-Class fighter, and this whole thing is just one big sham-show.
Hey, dude needs the money after blowing through his fortune, so if he can trade on his name and talk his way into a big money fight, and if the fans are willing to pay for this farcical nonsense, then hey, more power to him, that's capitalist society.
If Briggs fought anyone as good as Danny Williams was he'd probably get stopped as well. I'd be interested in seeing him fight Wilder, or Tyson Fury, someone like that, but I'd fully expect him to get clobbered as much as I doubt those two. This isn't like Haye talking his way into a title fight, Briggs is old as shit and he has no output, that's why he fights clowns. He would needs to show some kind of form against a capable guy to make a fight with Wlad anything but a farce.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaThat's what makes it interesting... he is gonna talk himself into a big fight. And if it is a contender out there, he is going to make the fight very lucrative for that contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Briggs is all in... this may not be on the scale of George Foreman, but this is shaping up to be better than Tyson's second run.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajaThat's what makes it interesting... he is gonna talk himself into a big fight. And if it is a contender out there, he is going to make the fight very lucrative for that contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Briggs is all in... this may not be on the scale of George Foreman, but this is shaping up to be better than Tyson's second run.
I like Briggs. He's a nice guy with a deadly left hook and looks the part.
Still, he's KO'n bums on his run here and proving nada except he can still punch.
I don't know if Briggs in his FIRST run beats Tyson in his second run.
He woulda been scared shitless imo.
I think Big George Foreman in his second run beat Briggs in his first run.
Briggs got the decision, but he didn't win that fight.
True, but one thing I've always said and respected about Briggs is that he doesn't claim that he's KOing champs, he knows he's just staying sharp. He has done this during his career, he fights a few bums when he has time between fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaThat's what makes it interesting... he is gonna talk himself into a big fight. And if it is a contender out there, he is going to make the fight very lucrative for that contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Briggs is all in... this may not be on the scale of George Foreman, but this is shaping up to be better than Tyson's second run.
I like Briggs. He's a nice guy with a deadly left hook and looks the part.
Still, he's KO'n bums on his run here and proving nada except he can still punch.
I don't know if Briggs in his FIRST run beats Tyson in his second run.
He woulda been scared shitless imo.
I respect the fact that he does that as opposed to Wlad who builds up fights with absolute shit fighters like Pianeta and tries to sell it as a huge event.
Briggs has things that every HW needs to win a title, a decent skill set, experience and a punch, aided by the ability to deliver a punch.
Hard to see many of the top 15 beating him IMO, I'm not shitting on Fury as he's starting to improve, but Fury doesn't seem like his power would hurt Briggs at all and if Briggs catches him it's curtains.
Same with Haye, I think Briggs could take Hayes best shot.
Wilder and Stivern as will.
This right here... we wrote off Foreman on his second run too. This is Briggs time to make some waves, weed out some pretenders and fringe guys, and put this HW house back in order.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosTrue, but one thing I've always said and respected about Briggs is that he doesn't claim that he's KOing champs, he knows he's just staying sharp. He has done this during his career, he fights a few bums when he has time between fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaThat's what makes it interesting... he is gonna talk himself into a big fight. And if it is a contender out there, he is going to make the fight very lucrative for that contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Briggs is all in... this may not be on the scale of George Foreman, but this is shaping up to be better than Tyson's second run.
I like Briggs. He's a nice guy with a deadly left hook and looks the part.
Still, he's KO'n bums on his run here and proving nada except he can still punch.
I don't know if Briggs in his FIRST run beats Tyson in his second run.
He woulda been scared shitless imo.
I respect the fact that he does that as opposed to Wlad who builds up fights with absolute shit fighters like Pianeta and tries to sell it as a huge event.
Briggs has things that every HW needs to win a title, a decent skill set, experience and a punch, aided by the ability to deliver a punch.
Hard to see many of the top 15 beating him IMO, I'm not shitting on Fury as he's starting to improve, but Fury doesn't seem like his power would hurt Briggs at all and if Briggs catches him it's curtains.
Same with Haye, I think Briggs could take Hayes best shot.
Wilder and Stivern as will.
People didn't write off Foreman in his 2nd run.
That's because he's fuckin George Foreman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
And he at the absolute tail end of 2nd career still had enough and 'beat' a Briggs who was at his youthful best :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's because he's fuckin George Foreman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Briggs at 42 is fighting in flashlight lit bingo parlors against guys Deontay Wilder would reject. Foreman at 42 was competing with and rocking Evander Holyfield. There is a reason Briggs has wallowed in obscurity with the exception of a couple of big fights he lost, one he lost but was handed, and a couple of not so big fights he lost... :smilie_whisper: he's not that good.
A lot of people didn't think Foreman could do it... and go all the way... but when he gave Holyfield and Alex Stewart a run for their money, people stood up and said that perhaps Foreman could do it??Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Age and experience, in this case, counts for a lot. Some times some guys get their mind right at odd periods. That's life.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliAnd he at the absolute tail end of 2nd career still had enough and 'beat' a Briggs who was at his youthful best :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkThat's because he's fuckin George Foreman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Briggs at 42 is fighting in flashlight lit bingo parlors against guys Deontay Wilder would reject. Foreman at 42 was competing with and rocking Evander Holyfield. There is a reason Briggs has wallowed in obscurity with the exception of a couple of big fights he lost, one he lost but was handed, and a couple of not so big fights he lost... :smilie_whisper: he's not that good.
Not everyone can be Mike Tyson. Take for example Bernard Hopkins- he looks better than he ever did now.
I can speak for myself: I have a better boxing mind now than I did when I was 21. I may be out of shape, but I don't doubt I would be a better fighter today with what I know from the game.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajaA lot of people didn't think Foreman could do it... and go all the way... but when he gave Holyfield and Alex Stewart a run for their money, people stood up and said that perhaps Foreman could do it??Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I believe the Holyfield fight really opened people's eyes to George's true grit and legitimacy at the world class level.
His very close fight with Stewart probably damaged his reputation as Alex was a big big puncher against weaker opposition, but he was never a true top contender.
I like Alex Stewart a lot too. Seemed like a hell of a nice guy and his fight with Ezra Sellers I think it was, that fight is AWESOME.
So it looks like he was extended the whole 12 rounds the other night ??? On one hand hey, he proved stamina and got in work. On the other I've seen clips of this and he was going hell bent on the guy in the corner like a caveman or tough guy contestant and the guy went no where? Anyone manage to see the fight?
I did not see it, but he's opponent looked to be a top 20-30ish heavyweight? Former Latin America's champion or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Anyway ill youtube it n see these clips, but I agree that Briggs shoulda finished the guy.
But hey lesser guys also went the distance with Foreman in his comeback, mostly toward the end of it tho. Savarese, Grimsley, etc.
Epic my ass.
The first thing I thought when reading this thread is: has anybody actually followed his career at all? His 2 best wins are a gift decision against George Foreman and a lucky knockout in the last round against knucklehead Sergei Liakhovich in literally the last 5 seconds of the bout. The White Wolf ignored trainer Kenny Weldon's sage advice to stay out of range in the 12th round and got clobbered by the wheezing Briggs and lost a fight he was winning handily. Even at his best -- 229 lbs., quick, young and strong -- he got his ass handed to him by Lennox Lewis. Vitali Klitschko also beat him like a gong. If Briggs ever wins another title, I'll walk naked through the streets of Los Angeles just to get arrested.
if anyone can name 3 impressive wins over well-respected heavyweights, not counting the above-mentioned bouts, I'll buy them a steak dinner at Morton's steakhouse in Los Angeles.
Wow. and that went 12 rounds? That's just embarrassing :-X
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