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... he just had to announce his retirement on the eve of the Tyson ear biting incident. What a prick.
But, Tyson was a better fighter and champion in his prime than Holyfield ever was. The Tyson he fought was a coked up jail-bird who spent more time in the bedroom with whores snorting coke and having orgies than he did sparing and training.
evander HALLELLUIA holyfield couldnt stop fucking his Holy Whore-iors, and went bankrupt with about 7 wives and 16 kids. Praise Jesus and Pass the Pork Chops! Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Holyfeild was one of the biggest hypocrites to ever have a public stage. He came in the ring singing about God and such, but in private he was nothing more than a sleazy man whore just like Tyson. I love watching both men fight. They are both exciting fighters with a lot to offer by way of entertainment value. Tyson would've beat Holyfield if they would have fought in the early 90's like they we're suppose to. Not sure he would've KO'd him, but he would have won. The fact that holyfeild is just NOW officially retiring shows how pathetic his money managment was. This goes for so many fighters though and it is very sad. It's quite hard for me to understand how someone can earn over $100 million and be bankrupt. It truly boggles my mind.
I agree whole heartedly. He went in the ring trying to act like a hot shot priest or holy man or something, and all he did was marry, cheat, make babies, marry, chdeat, make babies, headbutt, headbutt, headbutt, marry, cheat, make babies etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chet Ripley
Lol. As opposed to the biting his ear off. Something odd about a guy claimed to show no grace because he reminds people of the grace displayed by Tyson in a game he gave his life to. Bit of a cheap shot but its not as if he bit the mans ear off.
War Holy. A first ballet hall of famer.
damn straight, top 8 HW's and GREATEST CRUISERWEIGHT OF ALL TIME!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Evander Holyfield was never a heavyweight, that was Evan Fields.
Evander was a phenomenal cruiser.
The luxury and ease with which fans judge a man outside of the ring is numbing. Any of you gents want to submit your own bank stubs and court dealing for scrutiny :p Tyson blah blah woulda coulda shoulda...well, he didn't. Holyfield hung on too long and should have gone after arguably beating the man wookie Valuev. He was every bit a heavyweight in competition and what he layed out in the ring against an era of heavyweights we only wish we had today.
Agree 100% Spicoli. Holy was the greatest Cruiser ever and an ATG top ten heavyweight. I'm a big fan of both Mike and Evander, and think both had their struggles n mistakes like the rest of us. While Tyson was more dominant during his reign, he benefitted from a weaker heavyweight division, where Evander fought all do the best from the second best Heavy class of all time. Head to head Evander beats Mike every time, which isn't to say that Mike is a bum, just that Evander was made to beat guys like Tyson n was the better fighter overall. While he had women issues n stayed around too long, Evander was a class act in my opinion n one if the greatest warriors to ever step in the ring.
I swear Mike Tyson is like the Paul Bunyan of HWs. Every year the legend gets bigger and exaggerated. "Mike TYson in his prime would and should..............blah blah blah....... he could defeat any HW in history.....blah blah.........if only he never left Kevin Rooney.....blah blah...."
Its amazing, its like lore surrounding the Loch ness Monster. Whats lost is that these two actually fought..it happened..twice! All the excuses about Tyson being shot and done etc. and ignored is the exact same was being said of Holyfield. He was picked by more than one publication to be KO'D in 1 round ffs. It all suited Tyson after and only after he got his arse kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
He doesn't appear to like judging dunk contests either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aixYbxHgHE
Absolutely agree on all counts. From the Tyson fans there has been a lot of major history revisionism. Holyfield was considered to be a shot fighter or close to being shot going into the 1st fight especially after gassing out in his 3rd fight with Bowe and looking lackluster in the Bobby Cyz fight, and many people were concern about the man's health and well being. Not only that, but Tyson had just regained his aura of invincibility after dispatching Bruno and Seldon in short work for their alphabet titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIts amazing, its like lore surrounding the Loch ness Monster. Whats lost is that these two actually fought..it happened..twice! All the excuses about Tyson being shot and done etc. and ignored is the exact same was being said of Holyfield. He was picked by more than one publication to be KO'D in 1 round ffs. It all suited Tyson after and only after he got his arse kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Mike Tyson was CRUSHING grown men, and champions at that, before he was 25. He won his first championship, beating grown ass men, by the time he was 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Holyfield unified two divisions, and even when shot to shit he still managed to beat Sasquatch more convincingly than Haye only to get screwed overQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaMike Tyson was CRUSHING grown men, and champions at that, before he was 25. He won his first championship, beating grown ass men, by the time he was 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
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Originally Posted by Chet Ripley
99% of boxers are dumb.
Holyfield is an attention whore now.... go sit down!
you could say the same about Lewis, Leonard, Pacquiao, Duran, De La Hoya, Jones Jr, and countless fighters who try to get spotlight when they're time in the ring is doneQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
People are seriously looking too into things that have nothing to do with a fighters career and then bashing them for it, Holyfield is the greatest CW of all time, and fought EVERYONE at HW during his time on the top, he even continued doing so after his prime, never did any cherry picking and always went after the best, you're making excuses for Tyson when Holy fought him yet you choose to forget that people were already calling for Evander to retire at that point, had been diagnosed with heart problems and overcame those as well, fuck you, Holyfield always came to fight, and still walks around in better shape than most the HW's of today and the last decade, more fighters should follow his approach and live up to they're moniker cause Evander was legitimately THE REAL DEAL
Man fuck the stater of this thread no respect for a legend man fake ass boxing fan you are dude. Holyfeild can grab attention if he wants to who fuck are you say shit about it dude. Oh Tyson was past it please dude Holyfeild was older, had more wars, had hart problems and hep b not mention at one point was a 20 to 1 under dog but know what happened he still kicked Tyson ass. Tyson is just a big what if who was good in a weak era and just another belt holder in the 90's who got his ass whooped by top guys Holyfeild being one of them. Name a man who fought ever top guy there was for 26 years you find it hard to find he was a champ in his 12 fights fighting a hof to get the fucking belt. He is the only man to move up to Hw and most consider top 10 atg hw he doesn't need pound for pound because he just went up and fucking beat the hw champ so there is no what if they were the same size shit to say i mean who does that. So he fucked a lot he was the god damn hw champ didn't need to rape to get laid also he never said he was perfect i am not religious but humans tend to sin but if they ask for forgiveness i think there in clear Holyfeild never said he was perfect or never fucked up.
Holyfield should be remembered for the great fighter he was and the pleasure he gave fans. In the documentary on Tyson he is a friend of Mike and trying to sell his Sauce and has a sin who box.
Holyfield is a friends to no man. He's a fake dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
As usual, it all becomes a jumble of man vs. boxer. Those who hate the man will seek to tear him down as a fighter as well. Personally, I've seen much worse examples of fighters who masquerade as human beings. As a fighter, I find it difficult to find faults in him. He was a fierce warrior, and undoubtedly one of the best CW's ever. Incredibly, he did more than people thought he would do at HW. He took down big bad Mike Tyson, not once but twice.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI agree whole heartedly. He went in the ring trying to act like a hot shot priest or holy man or something, and all he did was marry, cheat, make babies, marry, chdeat, make babies, headbutt, headbutt, headbutt, marry, cheat, make babies etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chet Ripley
I hear he used to practice using goats to toughen up his dome
he was a great boxer. realy great and good sharp-ass puncher with surprising power. Great chin as well, one fo the best
Kudos to Evans Fields!