I believe Mike Alvarado is the prototype.
Can you name others? :confused: :confused:
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I believe Mike Alvarado is the prototype.
Can you name others? :confused: :confused:
Katsidis for sure.
Antwun Echols may be the worst n most shot.
Only one too many or is many too many acceptable? Meldrick Taylor
Thinking Soto Karass should call it a day. Dominick Quinn is literally a heavy bag to test your stamina and glove durability only
Jerry Quarry
Vivian Harris
Charles Brewer , Bert Cooper.
Jorge Arce
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Bein one of my favorite fighters, I felt Brewer called it a day before it got too bad.
Cooper, on the other hand....
Does Lolenga Mock count ?Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Bein one of my favorite fighters, I felt Brewer called it a day before it got too bad.
Cooper, on the other hand....
Earle
Beat me to it here. Love Jorge to bits but...damn has he taken a fair few too many.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
Jermain Taylor, Riddick Bowe, Gatti, and Vernon Forrest come to mind. Meldrick Taylor was a great example. Donald Curry n Roy Jones jr r two others who lost once n became bums.
I think a lot of the guys mentioned should be filed in the "half dozen wars too many" list.
My first thought was Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Froch, but tbh it seems to have had a good effect on him.
The word bum is thrown around far too much in boxing. Roy Jones is 3-0 in his last 3 against fighters with a combined rec of 48-8 one of which was an unbeaten Pole in Poland. He clearly not as good as he was but come on have a bit of respect. All of a sudden if you can t beat the world champs your a bum?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Antwun Echols
Ruben Williams
Danny Williams. Also Brian Minto and Vinny Madalone.
Toney
Chacon
Comacho
The Quarry brothers
Holyfield
Leonard
Young
Pep
Benitez
Griffith
Roach
Ali
Conn
Johnson
Zivic
Walcott
Hearns
Robinson
Dixon
The road warrior Glen Johnson.
Yeah, he's a top favorite of mine too but he needs to stop before he can't see straight. Doesn't it seem like he fights every other month too?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxing prospectBeat me to it here. Love Jorge to bits but...damn has he taken a fair few too many.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Good stuff. But Chacon did win his last 7 in a row against stiff opposition.
Frans Botha
James Toney
Owen Beck
Mike Mollo
Hasim Rahman.
Allan Green
Oliver McCall
Thanks and good topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
Damage was done during that time period imo and the comp was not that stiff. Average at best after Mancini and many fighters won the fights that were the "one to many" In Chacons case it may have been the last Limon encounter.
It be pretty tough to pin point the ONE fight that was to many. I assumed "one war to many" to not be 1 specific, For example the fight or fights to many for Ali came before the Holmes criminal act. Same with my favourite little man Jimmy Wilde. His fight to many occurred long before he met Pancho Villa.
And just to be clear Willie Pep was pretty sharp until the last few years of his life. Now his dementia could have been the result of simple deterioration because of old age but I think it began with Sandy Saddler.
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Originally Posted by IamInuitThanks and good topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
Damage was done during that time period imo and the comp was not that stiff. Average at best after Mancini and many fighters won the fights that were the "one to many" In Chacons case it may have been the last Limon encounter.
It be pretty tough to pin point the ONE fight that was to many. I assumed "one war to many" to not be 1 specific, For example the fight or fights to many for Ali came before the Holmes criminal act. Same with my favourite little man Jimmy Wilde. His fight to many occurred long before he met Pancho Villa.
And just to be clear Willie Pep was pretty sharp until the last few years of his life. Now his dementia could have been the result of simple deterioration because of old age but I think it began with Sandy Saddler.
The Limon/Boza Edwards fights did it for sure. Ironically, one of his victim at the end was Roach and he gave Freddie a terrible beating as he did to Montana who became punchy.
Starting to wonder about Hernan 'Tyson' Marquez after just watching his last fight :o
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Yeah Echols fought recently... not on boxrec but it was pretty bad. Still gathering money for his wife i think
The Road Warrior Johnson is one tough fighter who has been in a war too many, particularly vs Makabu where he got hurt a few times and took LOTS of damage
Yeah he looked a bit fruit caked out even back when he fought that mixed up battle against Brewster, some thing went loopy just before he went all out and won,it was like he was confused about getting knocked down,couple of bolts came loose maybe, weird actions he portrayed even way back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBoxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Yeah Echols fought recently... not on boxrec but it was pretty bad. Still gathering money for his wife i think
Strange thing about Echols is that while he is completely shot, I believe he attends college in the evening. WTF!
Vivian Harris is making something of a comeback so I won't include him just yet. Whoops, yes I will.
Juan Manuel Lopez may be on the brink.
Rogers Matagwa as well.
Mundine
Just think of the opposite end of the spectrum. Cobb and Chuvalo and both speak clearly and in complete sentences.
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Unfortunately for Chuvalo, it's not boxing who took a toll on him but life itself
Its amazing that he has held it together. His will is apparently as strong as his chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBoxingQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Unfortunately for Chuvalo, it's not boxing who took a toll on him but life itself
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