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I have seen very little build up or fanfare concerning this fight and I live in Las Vegas. Yeah the MGM has a promo draping their LV blvd building face but there seems to be 0 buzz about this fight. Anyone else see this? And is it because of things like World Cup futbol? I can't figure it out.
Oscar was on the MMA broadcast on Fox Sports 1 this weekend pitching his fights this week and the Canelo vs Lara fight.
I've seen ads for the Canelo vs Lara
fight all over the place. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just haven't noticed a lack of ads myself.
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Originally Posted by beenKOed
Maybe I've just been too busy and it seems like I described above, but I'm always pretty busy and other canelo fights have always seemed to be hyped up tremendously. This one just seems different. I expect it to be a great fight so I'm excited regardless
Me too. I've been excited about this one from the minute I read it had been made. It's getting closer!Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Maybe I've just been too busy and it seems like I described above, but I'm always pretty busy and other canelo fights have always seemed to be hyped up tremendously. This one just seems different. I expect it to be a great fight so I'm excited regardless
Maybe it has to do with the timing of schaeffer's departure. I would have thought Golden Boy was enough of an empire that whoever's baby this promotion was, would have had the ability to keep on keeping on.
Also keep in mind that the American public might not be on this fight because its two fighters that don't speak the English language very well, if at all. Casual fans show up to a floyd fight even if they hate him for the same reason Americans follow the kardashians. its the spectacle of it.
There's nothing for a large percentage of them to watch in the lead up if they cant understand anything that's being said. Neither of these guys are as brash or deliberately controversial as floyd is, so you dont even have that mayorga d0uche like spontaneity. Even though its an intriguing fight. If Angulo can catch lara and drop him.. then I think Canelo can also. However, i think there's also a chance that Lara could duplicate floyd's performance if he consistently ups his punch output and remains defensively aware. (He'd probably still get robbed of the decision though)
J you make a great point about schaeffer's departure. I never even thought about that, but you're probably right. As far as the language barrier goes, I don't know because Canelo is huge with the Mexican-American population and every time he fights it's an event.
Canelo vs Angulo did less than 350,000 buys...those are Mayweather/Baldomir numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyV297
Alvarez is not the star many claim he is.
And people wondered why Floyd wasn't fighting Lara. This is why: absolutely no fucking hype or money to be made fighting that guy.
Shaefer wasn't the only guy that left GBPs folks. That company has been gutted. That's why they had no fights scheduled.
Beans I here you, but it seems like they didn't even try. That's my question. Oscar called canelo the biggest star in boxing during the leadup to flyd-canelo. This fight has zero momentum and that's a shame because I think it's gonna be a damn good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
My honest opinion is that Canelo will beat him no bother, so I can understand a little lack of marketing.
Don't wanna hype up what becomes a one sided ass whipping, and I think that's what it'll be.
Can't agree sir, all of Floyd's fights wind up being an event one way or another, nowadays! Floyd makes sure of it. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I haven't seen a drop off in GBP fight cards. He has cards this week on the 9th and Canelo on the 12th. Has another card on July 18th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Oscar is not a complete idiot, partial maybe. Lol What I'm saying is that he knows how boxing operates. Oscar knows he's not the best guy to run the company but he can handle it until he finds the right guy to do it. I hope GBP survives, more is better in this case. Be good for Oscar also, force him to get his head out of his ass, maybe. LOL
Putting cards together is easy and takes a day. Putting notable cards together is where it gets difficult and time consuming. What major fights does GBP have scheduled the rest of the year? I can't think of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI haven't seen a drop off in GBP fight cards. He has cards this week on the 9th and Canelo on the 12th. Has another card on July 18th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Oscar is not a complete idiot, partial maybe. Lol What I'm saying is that he knows how boxing operates. Oscar knows he's not the best guy to run the company but he can handle it until he finds the right guy to do it. I hope GBP survives, more is better in this case. Be good for Oscar also, force him to get his head out of his ass, maybe. LOL
I hope Oscar finds someone to run the company too. Anyone not signed with Arum is a win. But there's a reason so many people were loyal to Schaefer, so many boxers too. I call all promoters snakes but the truth is Richard was the one doing what GBP claimed they would do in the beginning giving fighters control over their careers, letting them keep a large percentage, not forcing them into long term deals. That's good for fighters and that was Richard, Richard, Richard doing that.
It blows my mind people have started judging Richard for these very things that were supposedly honorable, good for the sport and GBPs prime directive when founding"that's not good for GBP long term" who gives a fuck?! Has fandom in the sport gotten so f'd that people don't root for fighters instead they root for promotional companies?!
Back to topic though. The shake up in the company has probably had some effect. But I have seen no less than 7 commercials for it today so they are certainly trying.
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Originally Posted by Vendettos
Hmm. Canelo beats the shite out of The Dog
but The Dog decks Lara twice before getting his eye crunched.
Logic says Canelo wins but logic never has a place in boxing.
:o
I've got friends that are casual fans and they are into the fight :D mainly because of the all access show :-\
I have not seen the all access show but I normally like them and gets me up for the fight.
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Originally Posted by Master
both are on youtube
The undercard should be good and action-packed. Oquendo-Mares should be a good one, and at least Lopez-Vargas won't be boring. I think Lopez is damaged goods, his last victory notwithstanding. I wish him well... but I can't get how horrible he looked against Mikey Garcia out of my mind. He's taken way too many shots... and he has yet to show that he can make the necessary adjustments. Personally I don't think he's going as far on his comeback as he thinks he is.
Are you that lazy that you could not get a link for me? ;DQuote:
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Originally Posted by Master
both are on youtube
Tito, Juanma is def damged goods but I give the dude tremendous credit for keeping up his career despite the beatings he's taken. At some point though, I fear someone will have to seriously talk to him about the dangers of taking beatings because he seems to take them in bunches
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Originally Posted by DannyV297
Definitely. The frustrating about JuanMa to me is that in the beginning of his career he showed some bonafide boxing talent, as well as good power in both hands. Somewhere along the line he became a slugger, and forgot about defense. I think the string of early round knockout victories he had, starting with his first demolition of Ponce de Leon, was the beginning of his undoing as a boxer.