He has nothing left to do he just wasn't upper echelon
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He has nothing left to do he just wasn't upper echelon
He was finished in 2011. Orlando Salido ruined him. But he still had heart. Not any more. Him stuttering, all indecisive about continuing in his corner shows he no longer has that
He's done....
Yeah he's done. It's sad. He was such a beast in his prime, now in his early 30s he looks like an old man in there. The wars with Salido ruined him.
He can be proud of the salido fights they will be re embered for a long time. Great battles.
He'll fight again. They can't stay away sometimes.
He had a great career, but he's been done for some time now. Anyone who encourages JuanMa to give it another go should be ashamed of themselves. Retirement is the only option.
He's going to get hurt. Long-term help me tie my shoes kind of hurt. I hope he retires but the networks will again give him the platform probably back home and he'll jump.
I can tell you if they took a poll here about what JuanMa should do next it'd be 95-5 for retirement, at least.
Mares is spent also. He's to small for 126 and he's gun shy and tentative.
He didn't look good at all yeh. Just flat and going through the motions.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
No kidding. He literally can not take a flush shot. I have no ides how he makes it through sparring. He'll be on ESPN getting knocked the fuck out soon enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
To be fair he had been out of the ring for awhile and was returning from his first loss :-\ I'm glad he got in some rounds but I think he needs at least one more outing against another second tier opponent before tackling the elite :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
He showed some ring rust. But i do agree that 126 is not the best weight for himQuote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaTo be fair he had been out of the ring for awhile and was returning from his first loss :-\ I'm glad he got in some rounds but I think he needs at least one more outing against another second tier opponent before tackling the elite :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Expect it to happen. There is no shame in boxing.
Great career??? Naaah he did very well and had plenty of success but great career? Don't be ridiculous.
It's a shame both he AND Mares are done... talented but sometimes that's not enough
Agreed ;) problem is can he make 122 any more? If he can I think there are some exciting fights waiting for him there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe showed some ring rust. But i do agree that 126 is not the best weight for himQuote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaTo be fair he had been out of the ring for awhile and was returning from his first loss :-\ I'm glad he got in some rounds but I think he needs at least one more outing against another second tier opponent before tackling the elite :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
34-4 (31 KOs).... and victories over some notables such as Ponce de Leon and Rafa Marquez. A bit short, at nine years.... but the KO losses have taken their toll. Depends how you define great career, I guess.
I don't believe Mares is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Me either. He was out for almost a year, after suffering his first loss, by KO, his managerial issues, still getting used to his trainer. I think he should have done better against Oquendo but he had been dealing with a lot leading up to this fightQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI don't believe Mares is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Juanma and Lacey both burnt toast. Sad :o :o
Eh Juanma was hyped up a lot but i don't think he lived up to it. De Leon good fighter but has lost most of his big fights and some pretty clearly. Also as for as Marquez is concerned i believe his days were kinda at a closed. Him losing so badly to Saldio kinda kills it and then just getting his ass kicked after.
theres still a few pay days left in him yet :)