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Up all night and I'm gonna watch both back to back and judge.
I thought that maidana gave him more trouble throughout the fight but zab gave him quite a bit of trouble the first 4 rounds then Floyd just took over.
Pretty sure there wasn't a round past the 4th or 5th you could really give Zab, can't remember though. Given that Maidana was very much in the fight till the end, you'd have to say him. I think Judah probably put more fear in him for the rounds that he was taking early though, if that makes sense. He seemed to actually have Floyd solved for a good 10 minutes or so.
Judah hurt Floyd, put him down and caused more problems. Floyd took over after adjusting and zab blowing himself out as usual.
If Zab was just a little more careful in the ring he would not have been embarrassed by Tyzsu and he would have won more rounds vs. Floyd. He worked perfectly in the first half of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Zab can be fragile mentally when put under pressure by top fighters. He will always implode.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaIf Zab was just a little more careful in the ring he would not have been embarrassed by Tyzsu and he would have won more rounds vs. Floyd. He worked perfectly in the first half of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That's as good a description of Zab as you'll ever get.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterZab can be fragile mentally when put under pressure by top fighters. He will always implode.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaIf Zab was just a little more careful in the ring he would not have been embarrassed by Tyzsu and he would have won more rounds vs. Floyd. He worked perfectly in the first half of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Zab very rarely gains steam or goes past the 4-6 rounds at top tier in good form. Save recently with the fight with Danny Garcia where he was impressively pouring it on late and making Garcia look not so hot. He wasn't going to out speed or out box Mayweather, clearly. Maidana was constant rough and tumble and he too buzzed Mayweather off the temple very early and jabbed with him in spans. Floyd was at the Espys saying how guys are lucky to win two rounds and then they think they all deserve rematches. Fact if Zab, Cotto, Guerrero, and Maidana can all make cases and won more than two rounds I thought.
That was def a knockdown, even Lennox Lewis said so on the replay. I lost money on this fight and it's the last time I ever bet against mayweather again. I really thought Zab had a shot. He was doing so well and then, well, Floyd figured him out, just like Chino.
I still think Floyd should've been DQ'd when roger entered a live round, but it's not bc I think Floyd's record would suffer, it's because that's the rule, isn't it!!
While I dont think that Zab was that remarkable of a win at that point of Judah's career, I was very impressed with Floyd's skill in that fight. He set some phenomenal traps and set ups early that paid huge dividends late and had Zab frustrated, exhausted, and on the verge of being stopped. I have always felt that if Zab had not had the break from the chaos...etc., he would've been stopped.
2014-2006 = 8 years.
I would say that Zab gave Floyd the most trouble, considering Floyd was probably faster at that time.
They both gave him trouble for 4 or 5 rounds, then Floyd started picking them apart.
I do think the Maidana fight was harder on Floyd, because Floyd either laid on the ropes purposefully to tire Maidana or couldn't keep Maidana off. Fighting Maidana with your back to the ropes is absolutely the wrong way to fight him. Floyd will stay off the the ropes this time, as much as possible.
Anyone who thinks Maidana gave Floyd more trouble because Floyd is more experienced now is wrong. This is hard to say, Floyd fought a stupid fight in my opinion, that and the fact that Maidana has a jab now made it a difficult fight for Floyd.
I had Guerrero winning 2 rounds. Cotto 3. Judah 4. Maidana 4. Maybe 5 if I tried hard enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I actually bought the Guerrero fight because I thought Robert would put up a tough challenge. Man, was I wrong!! I think I only gave him like one round. He looked as clueless as Canelo did vs Floyd, n that is BAD!!!
I agree, that was a dominant performance by Floyd that night. Guerrero was a walking heavy bagQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
I'm not sure who gave him the harder fight. Probably Maidana, in terms of how he felt the day after it.
One thing I thought about recently though, (although I could be embarrassingly wrong here) is that Floyd stopped throwing rights to the body after he got clipped and dropped by Judah's blind-side right hook. I really don't think I recall him dipping down and extending himself like that ever again.
Perhaps he decided his athleticism wasn't at that level from that point on???
Also, he is starting to neglect his left hook these days. Ever since approx 2010 I'd noticed the leaping hooks (like the one that dropped Marquez) had slowly been replaced with right hooks from a more flat footed stance.
Again, I could be way off but something tells me this is the way of things for Floyd.
I went to the Mayweather vs Judah fight and I remember I was nervous halfway through cause I bet on Floyd to win 2k at -450. I felt that Zab matched up very well against Floyd for the first 5rds, he may have even scored a knockdown when Floyds glove touched the canvas. When Maidana fought Floyd he overwhelmed Floyd for the beginning of the fight,even though he missed 80% of his punches and the punches he did land weren't clean. I may have had both Zab and Maidana up 3 to 2 after rd 5 but I gave Floyd 7 to 12 in both fights.
To me Zabs performance was more impressive because his skill level was almost on Floyds level for half the fight. Maidana won his rds on sheer will power and volume of punches.