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Now Brook is taking on one of the elite of the division. I think this will be where Kells career takes a turn for the worst. I see a late stoppage for Porter. Kell will tire around the ninth round and im predicting a tenth round stoppage.
What do u lot think.
I can see Porter getting stopped in about 6 rounds, Kell will bust him up using his jab BrookQuote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
with just take Porter apart, well that's the way I see it.
I haven't seen Brook fight, that I can remember, so I'm looking forward to this one.
Two undefeated, and experienced fighters with decent KO records is almost irresistible.
GBP is doing well, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Dia bandoI can see Porter getting stopped in about 6 rounds, Kell will bust him up using his jab BrookQuote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
with just take Porter apart, well that's the way I see it.
I agree, porter is being massively over hyped
I don't think he has the skill to match brook, his best bet is to try and beat him up
I think round 6 is a bit soon tho, I think he will run out of steam and be stopped by 8-10 :)
I think k porter will win but "elite" is a bit much. He's a good fighter and has been groomed well. He'll get a payday and then I see him retiring.
I don't see the big deal with Porter either, he's strong as an ox and has an engine, but doesn't do anything standout. For him to get inside on Brook he needs to get past that heavy jab.
Obviously Brook could bottle it, he's clearly not the strongest mentally, but if you factor the occasion out of it, I think Brook is by far the more talented.
Either Brook will look a million dollars or Porter will stretch him out. (how about that for a fence sit)
Boatloads of talent and no metal upstairs vs Limited talent and boatloads of metal.
This is a big step for Brook- Porter is on a hot streak. But Brook is a better calibre fighter than Porter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
Will Porter close the skills-gap in time? Power alone won't work on Brook and he won't just "wear" Brook down.
This is a good winnable fight for Brook. This is the test that will set him on a real world stage. He should train hard and should put out all the stops to win- and win impressively.
Porter has tons more experience in the ring than Brook. Brook appears to have some natural boxing skill though but I have only seen him couple of time jennis and hatton and wasn't all that impressed. We'll should learn something about the two in this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaThis is a big step for Brook- Porter is on a hot streak. But Brook is a better calibre fighter than Porter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
Will Porter close the skills-gap in time? Power alone won't work on Brook and he won't just "wear" Brook down.
This is a good winnable fight for Brook. This is the test that will set him on a real world stage. He should train hard and should put out all the stops to win- and win impressively.
I like Porter here and my reason is because of experience, competition faced and trajectory. Porter has faced Devon Alexander, Paulie and Phil LoGreco in his last few fights. What they have in common is that they are all boxers. Porter swarmed and outworked all of them. What's Brook? A boxer. Who has Brook struggled with? A tough, come-forward guy in Carson Jones. Styles make fights and I think the style advantage lies with Porter. I see Brook building up an early lead only to fade down the stretch. It won't hurt for Porter that this fight is in the USA either.
The other scenario I can see happening though is that the Brooks fans are correct and he's a better boxer than I think, and he starts slow, but figures Porter out by the middle rounds.
Also, is Porter Golden Boy? I think he's just Al Haymon.
Just like Alexander, Brook has the tools to make this look fairly easy however just like Alexander he's a special case upstairs. Fighting for the first time away from home may be enough to topple Brooks Shit even their styles are similar. I'm going to take Brook in this one and maybe even by a mid to late stoppage. Porter seems pretty average to me.
This is a good fight and I think Brooks will win. The winner should fight Khan for the right to fight Floyd.
I think Porter hand Brook his first loss by devastating KO :o
If Brook has problems with Carson Jones he isn't going to be able to handle Porter. Porter will have too much for him and outwork him or KO him.
If Hearn fancied Brook's chances he would have put the money up and got the fight in Britain. It could have sold 10 000 tickets and got a decent cheque from Sky. But he got his fingers burnt paying Crawford to come over to fight Ricky Burns and doesn't fancy the same thing happening again.
i agree with the poster above. I don't think Porter can on points as Brook is by far the more skilled and awkward boxer.
Porter can bang though, and Brook has been known to cut corners in training. He seriously gassed out against Carson Jones, and I've never seen him really take a big punch.
Early finish for Porter or a 8th round stoppage for Brooke. If both fighters are still there by the ninth, Brooke settles for a wide points win
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I see your point but I'm not sure its good to suggest that underachieving against Jones transfers to Porter. I'd be more worried about how he handles the crowd and atmosphere away from home. He could easily fold in the dressing room mentally before he even walks in like Bute did in Nottingham.
Maybe all involved in his lagging career after all the hopes have said that its time to shit or get off the pot and figured they might as well travel for this opponent. I'm not a fan of the guy in least but I have this feeling he may be a guy that fights as to the occasion that has looked mediocre against mediocre opponents.
Well after seeing every ones comments my interest for this fight has grown. Lets hope for an exciting fight.
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Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I see your point but I'm not sure its good to suggest that underachieving against Jones transfers to Porter. I'd be more worried about how he handles the crowd and atmosphere away from home. He could easily fold in the dressing room mentally before he even walks in like Bute did in Nottingham.
Maybe all involved in his lagging career after all the hopes have said that its time to shit or get off the pot and figured they might as well travel for this opponent. I'm not a fan of the guy in least but I have this feeling he may be a guy that fights as to the occasion that has looked mediocre against mediocre opponents.
take the first carson jones fight away and kell brook has looked anything but mediocre
yes it has gone on to long without really stepping up
Yeah Brook looked a lot better in the 2nd Jones fight (even though I though the stoppage was a bit English).
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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
awe mate, no chance
if anything jones could have been stopped a couple of rounds before
kell took his foot off the gas and let him off the hook, I think the ref could have stepped in
Crawford had to come over he was the challenger and the B-side. It would have been Top Rank doing their bollocks if they paid for Burns to go Stateside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Porter is the champion, he has GB/Haymon/Showtime behind him, he publicly stated going to England was not an option. If the fight had gone to purse bids he gets 75% of the pot, I doubt even Fast Car could win a purse bid against that lot when they are intent on backing their man.
I just think Porter is a hell of a step up from Carson Jones. It definitely doesn't help him fighting away from home either. And if what Khan was saying about Brook worrying if he's ready to fight Porter then that's a lot of negativity for him to be carrying into the ring. I don't think he'll fold in the dressing room though, maybe during the fight when he realises Porter isn't going to stop coming at him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I see your point but I'm not sure its good to suggest that underachieving against Jones transfers to Porter. I'd be more worried about how he handles the crowd and atmosphere away from home. He could easily fold in the dressing room mentally before he even walks in like Bute did in Nottingham.
Maybe all involved in his lagging career after all the hopes have said that its time to shit or get off the pot and figured they might as well travel for this opponent. I'm not a fan of the guy in least but I have this feeling he may be a guy that fights as to the occasion that has looked mediocre against mediocre opponents.
Look at the people he was fighting when he wasn't looking mediocre. Move him up a couple of levels, which is what is going to happen in a couple of weeks, and let's see how he looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I see your point but I'm not sure its good to suggest that underachieving against Jones transfers to Porter. I'd be more worried about how he handles the crowd and atmosphere away from home. He could easily fold in the dressing room mentally before he even walks in like Bute did in Nottingham.
Maybe all involved in his lagging career after all the hopes have said that its time to shit or get off the pot and figured they might as well travel for this opponent. I'm not a fan of the guy in least but I have this feeling he may be a guy that fights as to the occasion that has looked mediocre against mediocre opponents.
take the first carson jones fight away and kell brook has looked anything but mediocre
yes it has gone on to long without really stepping up
If Hearn fancied it he can let the fight go to purse bids. If he wins and Porter refuses to fight in England Brook gets to fight for the vacant belt. If Porter decides to fight after all Brook gets the fight at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterCrawford had to come over he was the challenger and the B-side. It would have been Top Rank doing their bollocks if they paid for Burns to go Stateside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Porter is the champion, he has GB/Haymon/Showtime behind him, he publicly stated going to England was not an option. If the fight had gone to purse bids he gets 75% of the pot, I doubt even Fast Car could win a purse bid against that lot when they are intent on backing their man.
It's all down to how much money a promoter is prepared to back his guy with, innit? It's a financial gamble to bring Porter over but if Brook goes to the States and loses what does he do then? Another half a dozen final eliminators for another belt?