Diego Chaves got what he deserved
I do not like Rios at all. He's a punk with no respect for anyone and fails to take accountability for his fouls and misbehavior.
That said, Chaves is a sneaky, sly, instigating little cunt.
At first I thought the headbutts were all Rios. Then I began to notice Chaves was rubbing his face all in Brandon's face then really being dramatic about rios butting him back.
By the end Chaves was rubbing his thumb in Brandon's eye where the red couldn't see.
I do think Drakulich took points prematurely and backed himself into a corner with the DQ. But, ultimately Chaves has no one to blame but himself.
He's like a far more clever and subtle Andrew Golota with his constant fouling.
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Rios is no welter weight, did you see the rolls of fat on him it was a dirty fight by both
fighters, more holding, elbows, inside of the gloves, ref was crap he let it turn into a
dirty fight.
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The ref spoiled a good fight. Yeah they were both dirty but it wasn't so bad that someone needed to get chucked out. I think old Vic bottled it because Rios and Garcia (the home team) were so badly on his case.
Chaves doesn't speak a lick of English yet old Vic was running off sentences at him. Mad.
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Just watched the replay on boxnation. Ref was god awful. I cant see what the DQ was for? THe DDT Chaves gave Rios could have warranted it but the clinch at the end didnt seem to have much in it?
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I respectfully disagree, Hulk. It was a dirty, but fun fight and the referee lost his head completely. The first point was taken prematurely and after that Dracula was all over the place. There were only five minutes to go and apparently Chaves was up on 2 cards. He saved Rios there and that doesn't sit right with me.
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That is the worst hack job by a ref I think I've ever seen. It was actually worse then Cortez in Mayweather/Hatton. The entire HBO crew couldn't believe what was happening. Show me the infractions that deserved point deductions thrice and then show me where either man should have been disqualified? I'm not even going to argue this any further. There is no evidence. Saying they both fought dirty is not evidence and that was tame compared to hundreds of fights over the years. Those three point deductions were disgusting and uncalled for. The stopping of the fight was insane. There was not even an infraction then. When its up on youtube I expect proof time stamped for each deduction with warnings and then the death blow that justifies the disqualification. If you cant justify the two previous deductions against Chaves then you cant justify the disqualification. What makes this even more preposterous is that there was no final foul to act on the other imaginary two. Rios crying about being thumbed prior to the dq. How does one thumb with thumb-less gloves? He pushed Rios away from a head lock.
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It shouldn't have been stopped. Rios is looking more and more limited as he goes higher in weight. He bodied guys earlier in his career at 135. At 147, he's not having the same effect and he looks slow and one dimensional. He's a dead man walking.
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They should have tanked the whole fight on a technical call and made it a no contest not punish the visitor.
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Hulk
I do not like Rios at all. He's a punk with no respect for anyone and fails to take accountability for his fouls and misbehavior.
That said, Chaves is a sneaky, sly, instigating little cunt.
At first I thought the headbutts were all Rios. Then I began to notice Chaves was rubbing his face all in Brandon's face then really being dramatic about rios butting him back.
By the end Chaves was rubbing his thumb in Brandon's eye where the red couldn't see.
I do think Drakulich took points prematurely and backed himself into a corner with the DQ. But, ultimately Chaves has no one to blame but himself.
He's like a far more clever and subtle Andrew Golota with his constant fouling.
I think that's a fair assessment, Chaves should have stuck to his stated plan of boxing. Instead he came out swinging hoping to catch Rios early, the sneaky little shit. Lol.
Rios started pounding him in the second so Chaves started holding, using his head, and his biggest mistake, getting stiff necked and uncooperative with the ref.
Chaves comes from a boxing family so he's knows all the dirty tricks. I don't know what he thought he was doing by antagonizing the ref, but I was glad to see him DQed. I don't like to see DQs, I agreed with this one.
There is no way I'd like to see a rematch, piss on that little prick.
Did the ref let things get out of hand? Yes, but in my opinion he was pushed to the limit by Chaves. When Rios started retaliating, he earned point deduction too.
The broadcast crew were talking about foreign fighters not getting an even break in the US, and there is some truth to that, but that has nothing to do with dirty fighting or ignoring the ref. IMO
I disagree Rios showed bad sportsmanship cussing wt the ref and Chavez. He looked to be the one not cooperating like another poster said Chavez doesn't understand any English and in that case they need a ref that's speaks both languages or knows the general boxing gestures the ref was horrible not the fighters.
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Hulk
I do not like Rios at all. He's a punk with no respect for anyone and fails to take accountability for his fouls and misbehavior.
That said, Chaves is a sneaky, sly, instigating little cunt.
At first I thought the headbutts were all Rios. Then I began to notice Chaves was rubbing his face all in Brandon's face then really being dramatic about rios butting him back.
By the end Chaves was rubbing his thumb in Brandon's eye where the red couldn't see.
I do think Drakulich took points prematurely and backed himself into a corner with the DQ. But, ultimately Chaves has no one to blame but himself.
He's like a far more clever and subtle Andrew Golota with his constant fouling.
Drakulich did the right thing. Yes Chaves was a sneaky little bastard. Drakulich caught it out and punished properly. Fine refereeing by Drak.
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Hulk
I do not like Rios at all. He's a punk with no respect for anyone and fails to take accountability for his fouls and misbehavior.
That said, Chaves is a sneaky, sly, instigating little cunt.
At first I thought the headbutts were all Rios. Then I began to notice Chaves was rubbing his face all in Brandon's face then really being dramatic about rios butting him back.
By the end Chaves was rubbing his thumb in Brandon's eye where the red couldn't see.
I do think Drakulich took points prematurely and backed himself into a corner with the DQ. But, ultimately Chaves has no one to blame but himself.
He's like a far more clever and subtle Andrew Golota with his constant fouling.
Drakulich did the right thing. Yes Chaves was a sneaky little bastard. Drakulich caught it out and punished properly. Fine refereeing by Drak.
Troll much?
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It shouldn't have been stopped. Rios is looking more and more limited as he goes higher in weight. He bodied guys earlier in his career at 135. At 147, he's not having the same effect and he looks slow and one dimensional. He's a dead man walking.
This is what I feel ticked Drakulich off: Chaves didn't need to resort to such nonsense in the fight. If he had stuck to boxing, he was winning the clean exchanges. He had the fight to win.
Drakulich probably sensed, as we did, that this fight was on a slow roll to becoming a fiasco. It didn't look too safe after the fight was called either- I was thinking a brawl would ensure, or something really dreadful.
Drakulich saw the air in the room, during the fight and saw the extent to which Chaves was trying to take it- knowing full well Rios is the kind of fighter that becomes frustrated too and responds to stuff like that- and tried to deflate some of this before it escalated and we all had a fight we really didn't want to see.
Drakulich, even though the fight could have been better, averted a near disaster.
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My Lord. Leave the subjectivity at the door. This is boxing not tiddly winks ffs. Why not just change the sport and wrap every fighter in bubble wrap. People who called that travesty a fair call might want to choose another sport to watch.
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The ref let this devolve into a quintessential clusterfuck of a mess and lost control. I think both fighters were equally to blame...he 'warned' Rios about eight times and there was no clear authority figure in there but rather a scattered lil ol' lady waving a broom around trying to break up drunk uncles in the backyard. He tried to play catch up at the end and repair missed calls, half hearted "hey knock it offs" and lack of official clear warnings and called DQ because he had walked himself into irrelevance and made it personal.
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The ref let this devolve into a quintessential clusterfuck of a mess and lost control. I think both fighters were equally to blame...he 'warned' Rios about eight times and there was no clear authority figure in there but rather a scattered lil ol' lady waving a broom around trying to break up drunk uncles in the backyard. He tried to play catch up at the end and repair missed calls, half hearted "hey knock it offs" and lack of official clear warnings and called DQ because he had walked himself into irrelevance and made it personal.
Say it again you have a way with words.;D
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Yes, Chaves is a sneaky cunt
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I think it's quite clear men have no business reffing boxing matches.
;D Weird isn't it. He'll slowly fad away in memory on this one because we'll see Drakulich 101 more times. I was wishing Sparkle Lee was in there by the 3rd round ha!
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I thought it was just a shitty fight altogether. Every time Lampley said Brandon Rios, it sounded like he was some sort of legend. I thought he looked like a flabby whiner.
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I think it's quite clear men have no business reffing boxing matches.
;D Weird isn't it. He'll slowly fad away in memory on this one because we'll see Drakulich 101 more times. I was wishing Sparkle Lee was in there by the 3rd round ha!
Sparkle did do a good job!
Chaves cut his own throat, all he had to do was cooperate with the ref.
Three point deductions and then a DQ. How do you figure the ref let the whole thing become a clusterfuck?
Truthfully, I didn't see why the DQ happened when it did, but I figure Rios outsmarted Chaves by picking the perfect moment to pitch a bitch, good for him. Piss on Chaves, hoping I don't see that arrogant little prick again.
The ref was totally inconsistent and micro managed a fight everyone knew would be rough house going in. He also let himself be worked and reacted to Rios little pissing fits. Rios was warned a total of ten times for knocking heads, one intentional in clinch in 6th. More than half the time the ref would break both, look straight ahead and give these half ass "ok come on last time"...to no one?! After you dock points and threaten last time and then ignore more of it you let the inmates run the asylum.
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Spicoli
The ref let this devolve into a quintessential clusterfuck of a mess and lost control. I think both fighters were equally to blame...he 'warned' Rios about eight times and there was no clear authority figure in there but rather a scattered lil ol' lady waving a broom around trying to break up drunk uncles in the backyard. He tried to play catch up at the end and repair missed calls, half hearted "hey knock it offs" and lack of official clear warnings and called DQ because he had walked himself into irrelevance and made it personal.
Drak could have done nothing to prevent this from boiling over. Both were committed to be what they were last night... reminds me of the Richard Steele tough assignments he was given over the course of his years.
Looking back at Steele's record, he was given some powder keg's of fights and we blamed him. But it wasn't him. The atmosphere and sentiment around the fight was bigger than anyone could have handled... anyone else would have let some of the same things Steele was involved in turn into all out brawls resulting in deaths.
Can you imagine that numb-nuts Mercante Jr. involved in a Bowe/Golota matchup??
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Hulk
I do not like Rios at all. He's a punk with no respect for anyone and fails to take accountability for his fouls and misbehavior.
THIS..... but multiplied by infinity and with a shitload of exclamation marks.
But then..... I've been saying this since the very beginning. ;-)
