Printable View
I like tyson.
Love the tyson story.
Youngest heavyweight champ in history..etc
But, what other job can you be convicted of rape and still earn so many more millions..
Should he have been banned from boxing after the prison sentance or was the sentance justice.
The obvious answer is money and how much money tyson made everyone post rape but I cant help thinking if it was your sister would you still have as much love for him?!
He is a cunt, and also stupid.
He became a big draw largely on account of being a scary mother in the first place, it's not as if it ruined his image:p I'm sure you could point to a handful of guys in the arts; music, film, theatre etc who have been convicted of similar crimes and kept being successful though. Roman Polanski kept making movies etc, off the top of my head. I'm sure there are lots of rappers you could list as well, but I liken most of that stuff to rape to begin with myself.
If my sister told me she was going to visit Mike Tyson alone in his hotel room at 2am or whatever, I would tell her that she will either be consenting to some terrifying sexual encounter, or be getting raped. I usually hate all the slut shaming or victim blaming stuff, but in this case, I dunnno..:-X
Floyd Mayweather doesn't seem to have a much more pleasant disposition towards women today, it certainly hasn't hurt his earning potential. Combat sports are obviously not going to cater to the most conscientious of consumers by and large.
I think a lot of people don't buy the victim's story. Only they know what happened that night but I've always found it suspect at best. I don't know too many hardcore or casual fans who honestly believe he raped her so people tend to not hold it against him as much.
I don't see how his success in the box office had anything to do with whether people believe he raped that women or not, or if anything it was enhanced by the common belief that he did. Ask yourself if anyone would honestly believe he wasn't capable of it? He was an extremely violent and unstable man with no respect for women. It simply had nothing to do with the fact that he was a freak of nature people would pay to see fight.
This. A lot of court analysts looking back in review of this consider this as a great miscarriage of justice on Tyson. He was a lot of things, did a lot of things... but he did not rape this woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinchekked
He paid dearly for that stupid act, went to prison, lost the respect of many in the boxing community, and all the money he could have earned in the ring. Man!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
He earned a lot more money in the ring after he got out of prison, when he was nowhere near as good as he had been. Obviously it didn't hurt his marketability was my point. I might be wrong but I believe the Lewis fight was actually his highest purse as a pro, so what does that tell you? That was years after proving time and again that he was still a terrible human being who was practically finished as a fighter to boot! What people thought of him as a person had nothing to do with his success as a fighter, just as it never has for practically anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedHe paid dearly for that stupid act, went to prison, lost the respect of many in the boxing community, and all the money he could have earned in the ring. Man!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
First of all, rape is dumb in America, they are thick. Tupac went to prison for "sodomy and rape" which went down as the equivalent of grabbing a chicks ass, there was no entry through the vag nor the back end at all. He was given up to 4 1/2 years
Secondly, Desiree Washington (the victim) was massively discredited and her story was never consistent.
There were no marks on her body.
The entire evidence was her word.
SHE HAD A HISTORY OF MAKING UP LIES ABOUT BEING RAPED.
Third off, the max sentence if guilty was 60+ years (63 I think), and they only gave him 3 years.
I'm skeptical about this whole rape thing. Hard to believe that a multi million pound boxer has to rape someone, when he could simply walk down stairs and pick up 95% of the chicks he sees.
That bitch got boned hard then told to catch a cab, he was trying to fuck a groupie, and she was trying to get a husband. She got pissed off when he threw her $10 dollars for her $11 dollar cab ride home and decided to make some shit up.
Well if it was clear-cut like Paulie Ayala, IBeabuchi, ect I think it would be different.
But I think a lot of people felt, and still feel, like Mike was shafted and was innocent on that charge.
Not saying Mike was the greatest guy towards women and didn't do questionable things with them, but in reading about that particular case it seems kind of shady.
Shit sticks he was convicted, he was found guilty he went to Prison, weather he did it or not
he's still , a rapist in the eye of the Law.
Tyson was a brute a drunk, and druggy, convicted rapist hardly a role model, do I feel sorry
for him NO, he made his decisions he lives by them.
Mike Tyson was set up by the Mafia because he didn't want to fix fights. Pure and simple.
The justice system doesn't always work. Just because he was convicted doesn't mean people can't doubt the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Mike was a piece of shit for sure, but I have serious doubts as to that guilty verdict.
When you have even women saying "why did she go to his hotel room at 2am" then I think it explains the way society generally view these type of "rape" cases.
Therefore Tyson is a rapist but not really a "bad" rapist (Just incase Missy reads this, it's not my view, merely how I believe the majority view it. Rape is rape.)
Short, sweet and 100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Didn't he do his time?
He was tried, convicted, and jailed. He served his sentence, and now he's back in society, trying to make an honest living, and trying to make a better human being of himself. It's what happens to every criminal who does time. As far as we know, he hasn't been in trouble with the law since. I fail to see the problem.
To me rape isn't rape just like crime isn't crime, I don't look at a shoplifter the same way I look at a murderer and I don't look at a rapist who forcibly held a girl down, threatened to kill her if she told anyone or tried to escape, and raped her as she cried the same way I would look at a guy who had what he thought was consentual sex but it turned out she had been drinking, or she later said she was thinking no without saying it, ect ect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't think anyone has forgotten; many just don't care.
It's part of a societal problem in many places around the world: sexism, male-privilege.
Tyson's violent past was already known in 1986, BEFORE he won his 1st World Title.
Everyone knew this was a 19 year old kid that had been arrested multiple times, had been in reform schools, and had mugged and beaten little old ladies when he was 13 and 14 years old.
At Tyson's peak in 1988, Larry Holmes was offered a pile of money to come out of retirement and challenge Tyson.
He was asked about the Mike Tyson phenomenon, and Larry knew about the sociopathic history and stated that Mike Tyson was no credit to boxing and would ultimately self-destruct, put himself in prison somehow.
Of course people got all p!$$ed off at Larry that time, shouting "jealousy"", because everyone was crazy about Tyson right then, Tyson was on the cover of loads of magazines, not just boxing magazines neither, and was in the news regularly for his Boxing accomplishments, and on tv shows and had endorsement deals.
Larry knew Tyson's dark past and wasn't giving him a by like all the millions and millions of fans did and continue to do.
Tyson on beating up 7 hookers:
Mike Tyson's 'lowest point' was drunkenly beating up 7 hookers while high on cocaine | Mail Online
Damn, a morphine drip to top it off, nice
Fuck me, that's brave!Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
He took on 7 at one time?
Just adds to his legacy!
Tyson was found guilty in a court of law and served his sentence.
I think the worst offence Tyson did in boxing was the ear biting.
Tyson has/had a dark side, he admits it, but everybody wants to give the man a pass on everything. Fuck that noise!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Even a whore has the right to say no! Giving that nooky up is one thing, taking that nooky is an entirely different thing and all she or he has to say is no, one time! If a women comes to your apartment with the possibility of sex on her mind, but changes her mind, does that mean you can go ahead and take it anyway?
Oh yeah, even men have the right to say no, there have been a few women convicted of raping men.
Look, I'm glad Tyson is doing well, but I'm not going to wipe the slate clean. I don't even think that's what he wants,
Yes you can give people a second chance, but rape is a nasty crime yes she went to his room,
but if she said no, and he still fucked her well that's rape.
There are a lot of dark sides to Tyson, he is what he is,!!! a great fighter YES but a great human
being no sorry, admire the fighter but the man judge for yourself.
I don't have a problem withTyson, I have a problem with those people who are saying he did not commit rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Why? It's their opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI don't have a problem withTyson, I have a problem with those people who are saying he did not commit rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
How little must you have going on in your life to literally "have a problem" with what others think about a situation that neither of you were involved in?
I seriously don't understand.
I couldn't give a single shit if someone believes it or not.
This happens in team sports from time to time, and in most cases it doesn't really get to be that big a deal, unless it is a key player for a specific side.
Plus, there's plenty of serious stuff that people do that get overlooked because of sporting talent. Look at Michael Vick and his disgusting dog fighting ring, and then he's back in the NFL after a couple of years in the clink.
Add in the fact that the story wasn't 100% waterproof, and I agree that lots of people thought Tyson got a raw deal with that particular incident.
I have no problem with Tyson. He seems a good man. He had a tough up bringing and that has an affect on a kid. There are different levels of rape and he served his time. I doubt hell make the same mistake again.
Really :-\ ,you'd think they would have picked (from all their working girls) a much better looking woman than that one! She wasn't the best, certainly no more than a 4.8 out of ten.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Now we are talking about it, I want to know what she did with the pay out.(what she get btw?)
I recon Tyson had a lot more testosterone to deal with than the rest of us. He seems like a nice fellow these days now nature has settled it down in him.
If you couldn't give a single shit about what someone believes, why do you even bother to post?Quote:
Originally Posted by VendettosWhy? It's their opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedI don't have a problem withTyson, I have a problem with those people who are saying he did not commit rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
How little must you have going on in your life to literally "have a problem" with what others think about a situation that neither of you were involved in?
I seriously don't understand.
I couldn't give a single shit if someone believes it or not.
Believe what you want, but don't bitch at me when I do.