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Nothing quite says Interim wba Heavyweight championship quite like a Luis Ortiz who can punch but has fought no one vs a Lateef Kayode who was last being held to a draw with Antonio Tarver..at cruiser.
The questions of "how & why" are both fighting for first place here :scratchchin:. Now, I like Ortiz who has some wicked accurate punches and Kayode is as entertaining in an interview as he is in the ring (not sure what that's saying)...but for a title? Come on. Winner gets Chagaev :-X
Lol correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the WBA say about 2 years ago that they were going to toss all the baggage? Between stuff like this and future Garcia/Salka like headliners, I'm not sure I'll be able to cut it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Hahah, the WBA are trash. I guess with Chagaev now holding the "regular" title for some reason, they may as well try and groom someone to take it from him.. Did Wlad get stripped of that or is he still the super duper diamond champion?
These guys now have 2 middleweight champions who probably won't fight their super champ Golovkin, it's nonsense.
Guys I say we all chip in 10, 20$ bucks and start our own title use the money to promote it and before you know it we will be scamming boxers left and right and making a killing.
They promoted wladimir after the haye fight to super champion, although I think of the one wladimir has as the actual title and this one chagaev has as the new weird creation...Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
If Ortiz doesn't stop Kayode then he's not the beast I perceive him to be.
This is a potential belt for Fury, Price and Joshua to win in the not too distant future. Then we will call it a real title.
Im actually going to this card when Im in vegas. Got ringside tickets for a good price and its a decent little card. Im looking forward to it.
The WBA is a total joke! The Soccer Mom's of boxing- everyone get's a medal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Just realized it gets a bit worse. Apparently the ghost of Juan Manuel Lopez is being trucked in and fighting for the vacant wba interim featherweight strap against the #1 contender :vd:
Lopez is no longer ranked...anywhere ??? And has the looks of a badly shot up fighter who is all heart and zero chin...and a name.
Kayode and Ortiz on paper and styles isn't a terrible scrap, but the only belt involved should be the one holding up 'King Kongs' 3x trunks. Gbp has signed up for Swap meet trinket give aways here
I actually think this is a decent little card. Ortiz v Kayode should be fun. Lopez fights are always entertaining. Errol Spence looks a good prospect as does Shimmel and also heard rumours of Charlo and Julian Williams being on this card.
I dont really see what all the complaining is about. If Ortiz wins he deserves to be number one just as much as Wilder does. Ortiz really should be top 10 with most organisations.
The main is a fun fight. But for a wba belt is a joke, and that's the point. The wba heavyweight ranks are an embarrassment with the reg champ just being out boxed and near clowned by a semi retired Fres Oquendo. Kayode being maneuvered into the top 5 without fighting or beating anyone at heavyweight...and ahead of the number 1 ranked Wilder mentioned. On strictly level of opposition Ortiz would deserve lower top ten I think. I like the guy. But certainly higher than the wba current top 10 hvy...Antonio Tarver :-X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Lopez was entertaining, raw explosion and all heart. But the kind of entertaining he shows now is damn scary. He is a spent shell and just 60 days off a beating where his legs were locking, the punches were wide with little on them and his chin bobbing around like a buoy in the wild blue sea. I hoped he would rethink coming back, at the very least this early.
Rather than making another. It looks like this kicks off at 8:30 pm on FS1, set to run 3 hrs
They have some decent names on undercard but all facing late TBAs and assumed warm ups. Filler.
Ortiz vs Kayode in main which should indeed be a fun fight, regardless of politricks.
Juan M Lopez 34-4 (31) vs Jesus Marcelo Cueller 24-1 (18) in co main
Jermall Charlo 18-0 (14) fights Noberto Gonzalez 20-4 (13)
Julian Williams 16-0-1 (10 ) vs Eliezer Gonzalez 14-0 (9)
Josesito Lopez 32-6 (16) vs Rafael Cobos 15-4-5
Lopez up 1st. Not sure how serious the talks are for a Khan fight, be he again looks like a jr middle. Wide span. Cobos is built like a tree stump
Lopez looks a bit out of sorts but fighting smarter at range and countering. Cobos undaunted and starting to fight like he belongs here
Hold up your Saddo Membership Card, will be looking for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Lopez is starting to remind me of a leech.
Ha, how so. Holding? Or milking big paydays. He def looks underwhelming here, Cabos sitting on his couch eating his foodQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Lopez will win, but it was one of those fights best left off the air. Ugly and paint by numbers. If Khan is serious at all he needs to frankly aim much higher
80-72 all three cards. Meh.
Spence just having target practice here. Granados is moving and punching with the speed of dial-up
wow. literally. This is getting fugly. Granados looks sedated
Fight stopped between rounds. That was pathetic man.
This fight is not making Spence look good, he is in with a punching bag. Honestly, the fight is a joke.
Hurt his hand, Spence must have hit it because Bolanos didn't land anything. What a waste of time!!
Julian Williams up next meeting undefeated Gonzalez.
'Undefeated' needs perspective...Gonzalez ko's have come against a combined 18-81
Not bad hand speed from Gonzalez at all. Both take turns landing overhand rights
Start of 2nd and Williams just shut him down with hard constant jabbing...Gonzalez reduced to half punching from the backseat. Nice adjustment
Williams really looking to set him up off erratic constant motion of Gonzalez. Williams got away from the jab late and Gonzalez clocked him at end of 3rd. Williams heavy footed and a bit hook happy
Damn dude...Gonzalez rips off 3 punch combo. Williams way too wide, loading up. That stubby jab changes everything in an instant...no jab and Williams reminds me of Curtis Stevens
Straight right clips Gonzalez, off the jab! 4-1 Williams and so far Gonzalez "getting revenge for Tito" isn't go all that well but this style is showing some holes in Williams. Squares up in front and clipped off counters-speed
Williams right eye a bit busted up?
Gonzalez is having trouble avoiding everything but especially the right hand.
Too bad Gonzalez doesn't have more pop in his punches, would be a lot more interesting.
He definitely has that stringy awkward thing happening. Like a poor poor mans Gabriel CampillioQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
80-72 all three cards...that's a lil harsh for me. Any judge named Tim Cheetum should change his name
Evening all, didn't realize there was boxing on tonight. Is this the last undercard fight or is JM Lopez still yet to plug on:-\
Jermall Charlo up next. So expected him to be higher than he is now but being screwed out of title fight with Molina didn't help. Noe Gonzalez will bring it here
Hey bud. Lopez after this and then main event.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Feels weird having a 3+ hour card on Thursday. Hope I don't forget to go to work tomorrow thinking its Sunday ;D
Very workman like with sharp straight punches but Charlo gets a little distracted. Losses point for LB last round
And just like that Charlo drops him with straight right! Trying to finish at rounds end. 5th. Gonzalez hurt in the body
He needs to close the show, hurts him with everything and cannot miss
Looking like a showcase for Haymon fighters with GB supplying the lambs.
The gotta stop this, Bayless is slipping big time!
Juan M Lopez vs Cueller up next. The Argentine is as crude and rugged as they come, can be boxed silly, but not sure Lopez benefits from either scenario. Lopez can score a 1st round ko and it'll be the absolute worse thing to happen for him long run! Lopez needs to get out
Lopez is being punched though, literally!!! He is cold, stiff and all heart. THAT is playing with fire. Asshole promoters scavenging a body here.
THis shit pisses me the fuck OFF!!!!! Lopez dropped on his face and stopped ugly, there was NOTHING on his punches and should NOT have been in the ring!
I'm not even a fan, but I'm a fan of fighters forming correct sentences and going out with dignity for fucks sake! They just picked a corpse here. Dickheads
Damn, assassinated! Juan Ma is done. Dang, a baseball bat couldn't have done it any better.
If ever a fighter has resembled his nickname...Its Ortiz. Love this guys sharp punch selection...but if he is 35 yrs old than I am Santa Claus ;D
This should be chaotic and good
:o King Kong just swatted a plane, fast KD! Kayode has some awkward, scary and ugly O'Neil Bell in him. For his size Ortiz has very sound handspeed
Ohhhhh MAN, brutal!! Kayode got mugged in corner and argues stoppage but he was clueless...and hurt!