Would draw massively over here. Who would win and how do you think it would work with Quigg boxing for sky and Frampton boxing on Boxnation ?
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Would draw massively over here. Who would win and how do you think it would work with Quigg boxing for sky and Frampton boxing on Boxnation ?
Unless Quigg/Santa Cruz happens first.
Framptons boxnation contract is up so now is the chance to do a box office PPV. People will pay for it and turn up in numbers. It's a huge fight and whoever loses is young enough and talented enough to come back in a rematch or for another belt. Mcguigan needs to think of his fighter and not his own ego. His comments rubbishing Quiggs drawing power last week was crass and ignored the huge elephant in the room of matchroom and sky's ability to maximise the profit for both fighter's. You wait it will be blamed on Quigg and Hearn if it doesn't happen.
I don't see it happening until they've both put some easy money in the bank.
Frampton would win quite comfortably in my opinion.
Leave the fight just yet, let it wait and ferment.
This a good fight but for now let them, have a few more defences let it stew a bit, Carl and Scott
are well capable of beating Cruz, but Rigo is a different kettle of fish he is a master boxer,! a
extremely hard fights for Carl and Scott, Rigo just boxes Cruz's head off.
I want Frampton and Quigg to say that Rigo is at another level and better than them rather than say he brings no money to the fight. That is the reason they do not want to fight him.
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You two need to be shot. Fact.Quote:
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I knew it would annoy you. :)Quote:
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You two need to be shot. Fact.Quote:
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Yes your right he's easily annoyed.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI knew it would annoy you. :)Quote:
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You two need to be shot. Fact.Quote:
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If we were animals he would be against shooting us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes your right he's easily annoyed.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI knew it would annoy you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterQuote:
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You two need to be shot. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Is there a full moon I wonder he does get a bit funny.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterIf we were animals he would be against shooting us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes your right he's easily annoyed.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI knew it would annoy you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterQuote:
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You two need to be shot. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
Quigg and Frampton are going to fight domestic and European bums until their showdown at Wembly, if nothing surprising comes between that... they don't want Santa Cruz and they certainly want no part, fight wise or financial wise, with Rigondeaux- the TRUE champion at Super Bantam.
Look it's a good dust up , so let's just get it on , neither are the world champion but it will be an interesting fight. So let's just get it on an then discuss.
Ego and venue.
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Fight killers
Money
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Fight maker
There is no bigger money fight for either in the division
Either fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
I meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany?
But it is. If they were going to get big seven figure pay days for fighting him, they would be calling him out every hour of every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Rigondeaux is too much for both of them in the ring, but also very boring to watch for the casual fancy, and thus does not attract the big pay days. Boxing is (rightly) 99% about the money, and that is the one thing Guillermo does not bring to the table.
I am with those who suggest they build up a British show down, perhaps in the summer of 2016, after both make some easy-ish money showcasing their talents against opposition they should beat comfortably.
Britkid should be shot too.
"Wait until they get bigger" is nothing but bullshit promoters spout when they are avoiding making a fight. How many "wait until they get bigger" fights actually worked out?
This isn't a fight between a couple of prospects.
They both have "world" titles. They are both in their prime. They are both unbeaten. They are both independently top 4 ranked by any publication that matters. They both already have a fanbase. They are both being called out by the other big names around the weight. It's a perfect match-up. They will make big money, it will sell out an arena easily.
But, hold on, you guys would rather watch them have a bunch of roll over jobs. Old fogey promoter spiel.
It can work, look how big a Hagler/Leonard was because we had to wait...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I want to see Frampton and Quigg get brilliant money, if they are going to risk fighting each other. Thus it needs time to hype the fight to the mainstream, at the moment the fight is too much risk to both, for too little reward.
Exactly. Strike while the iron's hot. Waiting rarely works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Get it on now. If they lose they can come back. If we stopped seeing a defeat as the end then we can start having more good fights happening when they mean something.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
lololol... what do you mean by that??Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamajalololol... what do you mean by that??Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
That the concept of being a 'European' is alien to most people that live in Europe.
We identify by our country, not our continent.
Never ever have I heard anyone describe themselves as 'European'. It just doesn't happen.
Oh. Ok. I knew that, having lived in Europe for a while. But to the rest of the world, and for easy comparisons, European is anyone West of France to Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajalololol... what do you mean by that??Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
That the concept of being a 'European' is alien to most people that live in Europe.
We identify by our country, not our continent.
Never ever have I heard anyone describe themselves as 'European'. It just doesn't happen.
So is France not in Europe then ? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaOh. Ok. I knew that, having lived in Europe for a while. But to the rest of the world, and for easy comparisons, European is anyone West of France to Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajalololol... what do you mean by that??Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
That the concept of being a 'European' is alien to most people that live in Europe.
We identify by our country, not our continent.
Never ever have I heard anyone describe themselves as 'European'. It just doesn't happen.
No. The French are pussies. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzSo is France not in Europe then ? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaOh. Ok. I knew that, having lived in Europe for a while. But to the rest of the world, and for easy comparisons, European is anyone West of France to Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajalololol... what do you mean by that??Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI meant domestic fights in terms of where the fight is held, in their back yard, or Europe- most likely Germany. I must have had the wrong impression of domestic, my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzEither fighter would fight Santa Cruz at the drop of a hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Cuba,Argentina,Brazil,Mexico,Canada,South Africa etc are neither European or Domestic fights for Quigg or Frampton but that is where their last opponents were from (discounting Martinez who despite being Spanish and European is surely not a bum and Parodi who is)
The last time either of them faced a domestic British or Irish fighter was 2012.
Nice try.
Germany indeed!
What the hell have either got to do with Germany?
We are not 'European'! Hardly anyone in Europe is 'European'.
That the concept of being a 'European' is alien to most people that live in Europe.
We identify by our country, not our continent.
Never ever have I heard anyone describe themselves as 'European'. It just doesn't happen.
Al Haymon turned down the Quigg fight on the Mayweather undercard. Quigg was willing to go to US to unify against LSC but instead he fought a nobody. Thats Quiggs fault? Both would happily fight LSC. Frampton beats him easy and Id say Quigg is a pickem fight. Rigo is the man in the div. Apart from that there is noone miles ahead of Quigg and Frampton. Kid Galahad, Jazza Dickens,Gamal Yafai make for a top class domestic division at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja