The Muhammad Ali Appreciation Thread 2
Ali did not have to fight again. After servıng hıs tıme, he could have retired and saıd he was the greatest. Had he retıred ın 1969, say, he would have already been fıghtıng professıonally for 7 years. That ıs as long as Rocky Marciano's entire career, almost. Ali already HAD hıs career, 1960-1967, and that ıs PLENTY long for heavyweıghts. Ali dıdnt ever have to fıght agaın.
Let,s gıve that warrıor a real round of applause, he was the toughest SOB I can remember, apart from my Rocco of course LOL. Dundee: 'Muhammad ıs the toughest %+&^& I ever trained'.
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also, when he came back ın 1970, he fought hard and won all fıghts, then he took a batterıng beyond belıef from Smokın Joe, he could have retıred rıght then and saıd OK I gave ıt a try, Im a step slow, I dont got ıt anymore, I went out on my shıeld.
But look what he dıd---he beat Frazıer twıce after that, lost to Norton, beat Norton twıce after that--and the UNTHINKABLE----KNOCKED OUT GEORGE MONSTER FOREMAN.
Now THATS when he should've retired!!! October 1974.
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1967
Had Cassius Clay retired.
He would go down as a talented Heavyweight Champion, but not regarded as the Greatest.
Too many 'what ifs'.
Remember, he fought a lot of 'old guys'.
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Bill Paxtom
1967
Had Cassius Clay retired.
He would go down as a talented Heavyweight Champion, but not regarded as the Greatest.
Too many 'what ifs'.
Remember, he fought a lot of 'old guys'.
yes he dıd. Cleveland had been abdomınally shot hte year before. Archıe Moore....no need to comment. Floyd Patterosn, puhhhLEASE. Lıston also was past hıs prıme ınh 1964-5. But Alı was a blazıng demon---DOug Jones got hım good though.
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Cassius Clay 'Title Fights'
* Sonny Liston I .......... "Controversy Galore" ~ "Follow the Money"
* Sonny Liston II ......... "Sonny dives into the Atlantic Ocean" ~ "Follow the Money"
* Floyd Patterson ......... "Floyd enters the Ring with a bad back, and having been floored numerous times by his sparring partners leading up to the fight"
* George Chuvalo ........ "A fill-in for Ernie Terrell when that promotion fell through. George had lost his previous bout to Eduardo Corletti"
* Henry Cooper ............ 'Henry gets the rematch, only because he floored Cassius 3-Years earlier"
* Brian London ............ "Cassius scrapes the bottom of the Garbage Heap for an 'undeserving' Challenger"
* Karl Mildenberger ...... 'Karl brings in a questionable #1 WBA Rating, to go along with an even more querstionable chin" ~ "German Strudel"
* Cleveland Williams .... "A mercy fight for Cleveland in Houston. The man was 'literally shot', had weakened legs and a damaged abdominal area."
* Ernie Terrell ............. "A gangling Octopus, who clutched more than he punched"
* Zora Folley ............... "A 36-year-old cement-shoed boxer, who was 7-Years past his prime"
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Brock I know you have been a critique of Ali but are fair minded enough to acknowledge what a great fighter and champion he was.
Bill take a leaf out of Brock’s book and be open minded when it comes to all things Muhammad Ali.
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Master
Brock I know you have been a critique of Ali but are fair minded enough to acknowledge what a great fighter and champion he was.
Bill take a leaf out of Brock’s book and be open minded when it comes to all things Muhammad Ali.
aye mate, forsooth. Ali's neck grabbing and mugging and holding gave me fits even when I was 13 years old---- but the mofo was a sharpshooter who could slice you to ribbons with a vicious relentlessness--I sure as hell wouldnt wanna look across the ring and see THAT mofo's face looking at me----gonna be a helluva night of pain. Man was a FORCE OF WILL AND HEART.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeZS2CqXPzw
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Muhammad was the toughest guy with the fastest hands/feet and the prettiest face.
Will there be another Ali probably not.
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Muhammad has Irish blood which gave him his toughness.
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The 'first' halfway decent and capable fighter that Muhammad fought.
He lost, and got his 'coolie' dusted in the process.
{See; Joe Frazier}
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Cassius Clay
Was a 'thick-skulled' Human with 'low' intelligence.
His Aptitude Test indicated that he was borderline mentally retarded.
Yes, he may have been 'street smart' in the Boxing Ring, and whimsical in front of
an 'All Believing Press'
But, the clown was a 'Looney-Bird'.
http://http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id...d=1.9&rs=0&p=0
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Not being intelligent in an academic sense does not make you mental.
Although you could be the exception to the rule.
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Master
Not being intelligent in an academic sense does not make you mental.
Although you could be the exception to the rule.
I did not say that 'not' being an Academic means that you're mentally retarded.
Cassius appeared to be 'quick witted', just not book smart.
You wouldn't let him operate any Heavy Equipment, would you ?
Let's put it this way.
Would you let him mow your lawn with a Wheel Horse Tractor, if there were young children around.
Case Closed.............
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Bill Paxtom
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Originally Posted by
Master
Not being intelligent in an academic sense does not make you mental.
Although you could be the exception to the rule.
I did not say that 'not' being an Academic means that you're mentally retarded.
Cassius appeared to be 'quick witted', just not book smart.
You wouldn't let him operate any Heavy Equipment, would you ?
Let's put it this way.
Would you let him mow your lawn with a Wheel Horse Tractor, if there were young children around.
Case Closed.............
I would let him operate heavy equipment around you.
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Heavy Equipment and Cassius Clay don't mix.
Much like Cassius Clay and fighting for your Country.
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imp
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Bill Paxtom
Heavy Equipment and Cassius Clay don't mix.
Much like Cassius Clay and fighting for your Country.
Who would you put above ali or who is one of your favourite boxers?
The thing is that anyone can pick holes in a fighter they dont like..
I never liked JC but I really admire him now.
Much Appreciated Boxers
* Saensak Muangsurin
* Leotis Martin
* Larry Holmes
* Jack Dempsey
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Bill Paxtom
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imp
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Originally Posted by
Bill Paxtom
Heavy Equipment and Cassius Clay don't mix.
Much like Cassius Clay and fighting for your Country.
Who would you put above ali or who is one of your favourite boxers?
The thing is that anyone can pick holes in a fighter they dont like..
I never liked JC but I really admire him now.
Much Appreciated Boxers
* Saensak Muangsurin
* Leotis Martin
* Larry Holmes
* Jack Dempsey
Got any fighters you like in this century?
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Paxtom, how do you see Deontay Wılder? Contender? Or a great bıg nothıng?
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