Is this way too throw leading uppercuts?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egIfayF05Gg
here's a video clip of a very hard hitting fighter throwing what looks to be leaving uppercuts is it thrown from the back foot,and how does he do it is he rolling his shoulders and then putting out? @0:09 he turns his thumbs in, something that scrap is taking about.

Seen this video before, beautiful work. Excellent power without compromising distance or balance. Yes those are great lead uppercuts but keep in mind he's adjusting his technique to accomplish a specific goal. While correct it isn't the way you'd throw every lead uppercut.

Wanted to go into a little more detail about this video:

Look at the distance this guy can stay at. When he wants to hit me moves just close enough, and doesn't fall in when he hits with either hand. Then he can step around or back a few inches and be safe yet still threatening.

Watch his foot placement whenever you can see it. No matter where he steps, look where his feet and thus his hands and eyes are pointing.

Balance. He can throw multiple very hard punches in a row, punch while pivoting etc without ever looking even a little unsteady. He's got perfect control of his weight, keeps it between his feet and is ready to punch or move at all times.

Posture. Look how straight his back is, how relaxed his shoulders are, that's effortless power punching because his legs are right.

His punching technique is great. Excellent rotation, drive and stability in the right places, sitting down with a strong base, not losing his feet, it's all fantastic.

He's pivoting his feet! OMGWTF take notes ;)

Hi BCBUD,
First off, nice find!

Anyway, here are some thoughts on the lead uppercut.

Generally speaking, the lead uppercut is an underutilized punch in boxing because it's one of the riskiest and most awkward shots to use as it can leave you more vulnerable to counters than any other punch.

As far as the first kid's mechanics are concerned, they're indeed good. As been said, he's well-balanced and coordinated with good spatial awareness and torque behind his shots. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of the long range lead uppercut, no matter what kind of footwork and angulation are used.

With the above said, I think that the long-range uppercut (angular lead or straight-up-the-middle rear, like the ones drilled in the first few minutes of the video) can be a useful one...against a plodding-type, predictable fighter. It's a punch that I believe should generally be used sparingly/un-rhythmically because of the greater vulnerability to a counter left hook, straight right hand, or left jab.

Personally, I prefer to utilize/teach a lead shovel hook in place of the lead uppercut. Having said that, this doesn't mean I completely eschew the shot. I do advocate its strategic use to the chin in close quarters at certain times against particular types of opponents.

Overall, as far as lead and rear uppercuts are concerned, I vastly prefer to incorporate rear uppercuts into the mix more so than lead ones because they can be effectively integrated into the mix with much less risk and more bang for the buck. Conversely with hooks (on an FYI note), I much prefer (as do practically all boxing trainers) to utilize lead hooks over rear ones (the latter not even being acknowledged in boxing lexicon even though it is utilized much more frequently than lead uppercuts). On that tangential note, I find it funny how boxing commentators through the years just won't acknowledge a rear hook by name, erroneously calling it an "overhand" or a "roundhouse" (like the commentators did when Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton with a rear hook and Roy Jones Jr. knocked out Virgil Hill with a rear body hook to the spleen) or just a "right hand." I find this blatant disdain for calling a rear hook anything but a rear hook simply ridiculous. Anyway...

On a final note, here is a once big-name fighter in a showcase fight who utilized lead uppercuts better than most. Watch intently, analyze, and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8EwMh1CnM

Take Care,
Lito

For lead uppercuts, watch Tyson vs Ruddock, you will see tons of them.

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Hi BCBUD,
First off, nice find!

Anyway, here are some thoughts on the lead uppercut.

Generally speaking, the lead uppercut is an underutilized punch in boxing because it's one of the riskiest and most awkward shots to use as it can leave you more vulnerable to counters than any other punch.

As far as the first kid's mechanics are concerned, they're indeed good. As been said, he's well-balanced and coordinated with good spatial awareness and torque behind his shots. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of the long range lead uppercut, no matter what kind of footwork and angulation are used.

With the above said, I think that the long-range uppercut (angular lead or straight-up-the-middle rear, like the ones drilled in the first few minutes of the video) can be a useful one...against a plodding-type, predictable fighter. It's a punch that I believe should generally be used sparingly/un-rhythmically because of the greater vulnerability to a counter left hook, straight right hand, or left jab.

Personally, I prefer to utilize/teach a lead shovel hook in place of the lead uppercut. Having said that, this doesn't mean I completely eschew the shot. I do advocate its strategic use to the chin in close quarters at certain times against particular types of opponents.

Overall, as far as lead and rear uppercuts are concerned, I vastly prefer to incorporate rear uppercuts into the mix more so than lead ones because they can be effectively integrated into the mix with much less risk and more bang for the buck. Conversely with hooks (on an FYI note), I much prefer (as do practically all boxing trainers) to utilize lead hooks over rear ones (the latter not even being acknowledged in boxing lexicon even though it is utilized much more frequently than lead uppercuts). On that tangential note, I find it funny how boxing commentators through the years just won't acknowledge a rear hook by name, erroneously calling it an "overhand" or a "roundhouse" (like the commentators did when Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton with a rear hook and Roy Jones Jr. knocked out Virgil Hill with a rear body hook to the spleen) or just a "right hand." I find this blatant disdain for calling a rear hook anything but a rear hook simply ridiculous. Anyway...

On a final note, here is a once big-name fighter in a showcase fight who utilized lead uppercuts better than most. Watch intently, analyze, and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8EwMh1CnM

Take Care,
Lito

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Oh man they had Margos gloves and wraps off so quick at the end there.:-\

Cuban national team 0:40 leading upper cutshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J94qBTfI9PY

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Cuban national team 0:40 leading upper cutshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J94qBTfI9PY

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There you go


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J94qBTfI9PY

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Hi BCBUD,
First off, nice find!

Anyway, here are some thoughts on the lead uppercut.

Generally speaking, the lead uppercut is an underutilized punch in boxing because it's one of the riskiest and most awkward shots to use as it can leave you more vulnerable to counters than any other punch.

As far as the first kid's mechanics are concerned, they're indeed good. As been said, he's well-balanced and coordinated with good spatial awareness and torque behind his shots. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of the long range lead uppercut, no matter what kind of footwork and angulation are used.

With the above said, I think that the long-range uppercut (angular lead or straight-up-the-middle rear, like the ones drilled in the first few minutes of the video) can be a useful one...against a plodding-type, predictable fighter. It's a punch that I believe should generally be used sparingly/un-rhythmically because of the greater vulnerability to a counter left hook, straight right hand, or left jab.

Personally, I prefer to utilize/teach a lead shovel hook in place of the lead uppercut. Having said that, this doesn't mean I completely eschew the shot. I do advocate its strategic use to the chin in close quarters at certain times against particular types of opponents.

Overall, as far as lead and rear uppercuts are concerned, I vastly prefer to incorporate rear uppercuts into the mix more so than lead ones because they can be effectively integrated into the mix with much less risk and more bang for the buck. Conversely with hooks (on an FYI note), I much prefer (as do practically all boxing trainers) to utilize lead hooks over rear ones (the latter not even being acknowledged in boxing lexicon even though it is utilized much more frequently than lead uppercuts). On that tangential note, I find it funny how boxing commentators through the years just won't acknowledge a rear hook by name, erroneously calling it an "overhand" or a "roundhouse" (like the commentators did when Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton with a rear hook and Roy Jones Jr. knocked out Virgil Hill with a rear body hook to the spleen) or just a "right hand." I find this blatant disdain for calling a rear hook anything but a rear hook simply ridiculous. Anyway...

On a final note, here is a once big-name fighter in a showcase fight who utilized lead uppercuts better than most. Watch intently, analyze, and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8EwMh1CnM

Take Care,
Lito

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Oh man they had Margos gloves and wraps off so quick at the end there.:-\

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Stepping forward in the leading punching is crucial because it activates the tensor facia lata which couldn't be activated strongly had it not been for that step forward. The russian LC is unique.

Whats a russian lc?

I was thinking aloud; with Margos ban from boxing about having plaster in his wraps. That The way his corner had his gloves and wraps off before the decision was announced was so fast that they may have made a wrap switch out of their bag or something just seemed fast to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hZKnQ07IE

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Whats a russian lc?

I was thinking aloud; with Margos ban from boxing about having plaster in his wraps. That The way his corner had his gloves and wraps off before the decision was announced was so fast that they may have made a wrap switch out of their bag or something just seemed fast to me.

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Leading upper cut.

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Whats a russian lc?

I was thinking aloud; with Margos ban from boxing about having plaster in his wraps. That The way his corner had his gloves and wraps off before the decision was announced was so fast that they may have made a wrap switch out of their bag or something just seemed fast to me.

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Leading upper cut.

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Russian ?

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Hi BCBUD,
First off, nice find!

Anyway, here are some thoughts on the lead uppercut.

Generally speaking, the lead uppercut is an underutilized punch in boxing because it's one of the riskiest and most awkward shots to use as it can leave you more vulnerable to counters than any other punch.

As far as the first kid's mechanics are concerned, they're indeed good. As been said, he's well-balanced and coordinated with good spatial awareness and torque behind his shots. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of the long range lead uppercut, no matter what kind of footwork and angulation are used.

With the above said, I think that the long-range uppercut (angular lead or straight-up-the-middle rear, like the ones drilled in the first few minutes of the video) can be a useful one...against a plodding-type, predictable fighter. It's a punch that I believe should generally be used sparingly/un-rhythmically because of the greater vulnerability to a counter left hook, straight right hand, or left jab.

Personally, I prefer to utilize/teach a lead shovel hook in place of the lead uppercut. Having said that, this doesn't mean I completely eschew the shot. I do advocate its strategic use to the chin in close quarters at certain times against particular types of opponents.

Overall, as far as lead and rear uppercuts are concerned, I vastly prefer to incorporate rear uppercuts into the mix more so than lead ones because they can be effectively integrated into the mix with much less risk and more bang for the buck. Conversely with hooks (on an FYI note), I much prefer (as do practically all boxing trainers) to utilize lead hooks over rear ones (the latter not even being acknowledged in boxing lexicon even though it is utilized much more frequently than lead uppercuts). On that tangential note, I find it funny how boxing commentators through the years just won't acknowledge a rear hook by name, erroneously calling it an "overhand" or a "roundhouse" (like the commentators did when Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton with a rear hook and Roy Jones Jr. knocked out Virgil Hill with a rear body hook to the spleen) or just a "right hand." I find this blatant disdain for calling a rear hook anything but a rear hook simply ridiculous. Anyway...

On a final note, here is a once big-name fighter in a showcase fight who utilized lead uppercuts better than most. Watch intently, analyze, and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8EwMh1CnM

Take Care,
Lito

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I just wanna point out that the guy throwing those is a southpaw. It's a much safer punch to throw in southpaw vs orthodox, and it can come under their jab nicely.

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Hi BCBUD,
First off, nice find!

Anyway, here are some thoughts on the lead uppercut.

Generally speaking, the lead uppercut is an underutilized punch in boxing because it's one of the riskiest and most awkward shots to use as it can leave you more vulnerable to counters than any other punch.

As far as the first kid's mechanics are concerned, they're indeed good. As been said, he's well-balanced and coordinated with good spatial awareness and torque behind his shots. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of the long range lead uppercut, no matter what kind of footwork and angulation are used.

With the above said, I think that the long-range uppercut (angular lead or straight-up-the-middle rear, like the ones drilled in the first few minutes of the video) can be a useful one...against a plodding-type, predictable fighter. It's a punch that I believe should generally be used sparingly/un-rhythmically because of the greater vulnerability to a counter left hook, straight right hand, or left jab.

Personally, I prefer to utilize/teach a lead shovel hook in place of the lead uppercut. Having said that, this doesn't mean I completely eschew the shot. I do advocate its strategic use to the chin in close quarters at certain times against particular types of opponents.

Overall, as far as lead and rear uppercuts are concerned, I vastly prefer to incorporate rear uppercuts into the mix more so than lead ones because they can be effectively integrated into the mix with much less risk and more bang for the buck. Conversely with hooks (on an FYI note), I much prefer (as do practically all boxing trainers) to utilize lead hooks over rear ones (the latter not even being acknowledged in boxing lexicon even though it is utilized much more frequently than lead uppercuts). On that tangential note, I find it funny how boxing commentators through the years just won't acknowledge a rear hook by name, erroneously calling it an "overhand" or a "roundhouse" (like the commentators did when Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton with a rear hook and Roy Jones Jr. knocked out Virgil Hill with a rear body hook to the spleen) or just a "right hand." I find this blatant disdain for calling a rear hook anything but a rear hook simply ridiculous. Anyway...

On a final note, here is a once big-name fighter in a showcase fight who utilized lead uppercuts better than most. Watch intently, analyze, and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8EwMh1CnM

Take Care,
Lito

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I just wanna point out that the guy throwing those is a southpaw. It's a much safer punch to throw in southpaw vs orthodox, and it can come under their jab nicely.

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Could do the exact same thing while retreating if they were reaching in too; if you were in orthodox and removed your left front foot to around the back of your rear foot switching back so your head and body is out of their reach then throw the lead right uppercut cause that stayed in distance.

If I were the guy working the mitts with the southpaw in the original video, there things I would find problematic. He is making his moves haphazardly, assuming that his trainer isn't going to bust him in the chin with the mitt. So he just leans around the 'punch' and has his chin way up in the air as he drops his hand and wings that 'uppercut.' An uppercut thrown with the lead hand is almost always going to be a counter punch. You have to slip the length of the punch and move your feet (and turn your shoulders) accordingly. The guy in the video is not doing that.
If I were teaching that move...You want to push off your back foot to move your front foot, as you turn your shoulders over that front foot. This gets you inside of and under the punch. You are now between the opponent's hands and his body. You shift the weight back and bring up the punching hand, turning the fist so that the punch lands on the two large knuckles. It is a much tighter move than is shown in the video, and your chin is behind the shoulder until you are in a place where the other guy cannot reach you.
Years ago, Tracy Spann was a murderous punching southpaw LW ranked very highly. He fought Honey Boy Paden, a slick boxer that didn't have a great record but gave everybody a full night's work. Paden had a lot of success early with a left uppercut, to the body and then to the head. And he got careless and didn't get past the Spann jab before he punched and Tracy hit him with a right hook. Almost corkscrewed his head off. Incidentally, the only difference in southpaws hitting righties and vice versa is the level of practice. Most southpaws fight more orthodox fighters than the other way around. If it works one way it will work the other if you set it up right.
If you want to see a nearly perfect way to throw that punch skip into about the 29:00 mark of this video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppXov9Dqwmk

Beautiful shot.

JMM used to throw that every once in a while.

It's hard to know where the weight should be placed inorder to throw the leading uppercut according to Fenech the weight is forward.Most Boxing Champs per nation - General Boxing Discussion - MaxBoxing.com Forums

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It's hard to know where the weight should be placed inorder to throw the leading uppercut according to Fenech the weight is forward.Most Boxing Champs per nation - General Boxing Discussion - MaxBoxing.com Forums

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Everything has variations.
Personally I thnk its down to the circumstance and the direction the target is moving to , like when you adjust back slightly on an angle from being squared up and catch them coming in with one ,you could end up even having your rear heel facing the point of contact as you land it on the way out. Or you could slip to his inside and throw it slightly more off the front foot or the one you just placed in between his legs.
You could also be more squared in stance nose to nose ducking weaving down there and throw it off either side depending on his direction.

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It's hard to know where the weight should be placed inorder to throw the leading uppercut according to Fenech the weight is forward.Most Boxing Champs per nation - General Boxing Discussion - MaxBoxing.com Forums

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Everything has variations.
Personally I thnk its down to the circumstance and the direction the target is moving to , like when you adjust back slightly on an angle from being squared up and catch them coming in with one ,you could end up even having your rear heel facing the point of contact as you land it on the way out. Or you could slip to his inside and throw it slightly more off the front foot or the one you just placed in between his legs.
You could also be more squared in stance nose to nose ducking weaving down there and throw it off either side depending on his direction.

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@Andre yep here's a clip of the great Chavez doing that... notice how his rear leg is almost straight 70-30 percent weight distribution towards the front. A Los Golpes Con Gennady Golovkin & Marco Antonio Rubio HD 720p - YouTube

I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: http://www.sugarboxing.com/the-scien...boo-part-v/#C3

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: the science of mike tyson and elements of peek-a-boo part V | www.SugarBoxing.com

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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Thanx for upgrade to sugarboxing.com helps me understand better. Yes the russian fighter may not be stepping in just lifting the lead foot.

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: the science of mike tyson and elements of peek-a-boo part V | www.SugarBoxing.com

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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Thanx for upgrade to sugarboxing.com helps me understand better. Yes the russian fighter may not be stepping in just lifting the lead foot.

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Tyson threw lots of lead uppercuts, hopefully, we will break it down one day.

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: the science of mike tyson and elements of peek-a-boo part V | www.SugarBoxing.com

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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Thanx for upgrade to sugarboxing.com helps me understand better. Yes the russian fighter may not be stepping in just lifting the lead foot.

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Tyson threw lots of lead uppercuts, hopefully, we will break it down one day.

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Please do and add scrap to the blog since he is an expert on peek-a-boo eventhough it's not his style. Watch scrap's tapes and you'll see him doing that same half twist.

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: the science of mike tyson and elements of peek-a-boo part V | www.SugarBoxing.com

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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Thanx for upgrade to sugarboxing.com helps me understand better. Yes the russian fighter may not be stepping in just lifting the lead foot.

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Tyson threw lots of lead uppercuts, hopefully, we will break it down one day.

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Please do and add scrap to the blog since he is an expert on peek-a-boo eventhough it's not his style. Watch scrap's tapes and you'll see him doing that same half twist.

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What do you mean by half twists? put here the link?

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I'm just trying to grasp the mechanics of this uppercut is the russian fighter stepping as he throws the uppercut?

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Leading uppercut is a very andvanced techqniue, it is physically demanding. Personally, at this moment, I do not fully understand it yet. I suggets mastering basic punches first.

Check our recent stuff on uppercuts: the science of mike tyson and elements of peek-a-boo part V | www.SugarBoxing.com

Read JD book, he explains more there. Actually, he did not believe in lead uppercuts at that time. Nowadays, guys like Tyson, Mayweather, Canelo, Ruddock, etc prove he was wrong.

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Thanx for upgrade to sugarboxing.com helps me understand better. Yes the russian fighter may not be stepping in just lifting the lead foot.

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Tyson threw lots of lead uppercuts, hopefully, we will break it down one day.

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Please do and add scrap to the blog since he is an expert on peek-a-boo eventhough it's not his style. Watch scrap's tapes and you'll see him doing that same half twist.

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What do you mean by half twists? put here the link?

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Here's one link there are others, he's an expert on twisting... He and Kevin Rooney are probably the only coaches in the world that teach the correct fundlementals of twisting. I will keep searching bare in mind scrap publishes under various usernames.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jh711-C-ESU 4:31
Here's the Kevin Rooney version https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G4O4hY1x-hU where Kevin twists left Scrap twists to the right.

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Here's one link there are others, he's an expert on twisting... He and Kevin Rooney are probably the only coaches in the world that teach the correct fundlementals of twisting. I will keep searching bare in mind scrap publishes under various usernames.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jh711-C-ESU 4:31
Here's the Kevin Rooney version https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G4O4hY1x-hU where Kevin twists left Scrap twists to the right.

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That was helpfull, thanx!

Could you please find time and post any teachings here like video or text if you saw it?

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Here's one link there are others, he's an expert on twisting... He and Kevin Rooney are probably the only coaches in the world that teach the correct fundlementals of twisting. I will keep searching bare in mind scrap publishes under various usernames.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jh711-C-ESU 4:31
Here's the Kevin Rooney version https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G4O4hY1x-hU where Kevin twists left Scrap twists to the right.

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That was helpfull, thanx!

Could you please find time and post any teachings here like video or text if you saw it?

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Sure will!