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Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
As if Manny wasn't bad enough. Floyd dismisses Thurman as if Thurman just started boxing yesterday. Saying Thurman is too green. Well, Canelo was too green as well- forget the 40 plus fight record, Canelo was fighting a bum a month down there in Mexico for his first 25 fights or so.
Mayweather, just don't talk anymore when it comes to who you would or wouldn't fight. Because you sound stupid.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
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mikeeod
I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
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Never stops.
Floyd is ducking berto as well.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Berto looked like a walking ko in the waiting last out and was being buzzed by a guy with 5,6 kos? Thurman learns or earns very little by smashing a used up Berto except false confidence
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Folks, dude is clearly taking a dig at Floyd with the Berto talk.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
You kidding, Thurman has to beat Brooks, Khan and Bradley to earn a fight with Floyd.
Less dangerous fighters have earned the shot as far as I am concerned Thurman is better than Guerrero and Maidana for Floyd. At welterweight there is only Manny and Bradley left and they work for the dark side. Thurman is a better choice than Khan or Brooks.
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
Just to put Thurman in perspective, he would be a very short fav over Maidana. And would likely be fav over Khan and Brook. Floyd is doing what Floyd always does. Avoid very strong prospects.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
You kidding, Thurman has to beat Brooks, Khan and Bradley to earn a fight with Floyd.
Less dangerous fighters have earned the shot as far as I am concerned Thurman is better than Guerrero and Maidana for Floyd. At welterweight there is only Manny and Bradley left and they work for the dark side. Thurman is a better choice than Khan or Brooks.
Khan and Brooks have both beaten tougher opposition than Thurman at this point. You are correct that there are limited choices at the weight, but Thurman isn't the best choice in my opinion. My previous post came across different than what I intended. I don't feel that Thurman has to beat all three to earn the shot at Floyd. I was saying that for Thurman to have a realistic chance at beating Floyd, he needed to gradually step his competition up by fighting the level of fighters of Brooks, Khan n then Bradley.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
You kidding, Thurman has to beat Brooks, Khan and Bradley to earn a fight with Floyd.
Less dangerous fighters have earned the shot as far as I am concerned Thurman is better than Guerrero and Maidana for Floyd. At welterweight there is only Manny and Bradley left and they work for the dark side. Thurman is a better choice than Khan or Brooks.
Khan and Brooks have both beaten tougher opposition than Thurman at this point. You are correct that there are limited choices at the weight, but Thurman isn't the best choice in my opinion. My previous post came across different than what I intended. I don't feel that Thurman has to beat all three to earn the shot at Floyd. I was saying that for Thurman to have a realistic chance at beating Floyd, he needed to gradually step his competition up by fighting the level of fighters of Brooks, Khan n then Bradley.
What if that was said when Lomanchenko won his first title or fought for his first title? Floyd wasn't really "ready" for his first title either. He proved he was when he beat the man.
Don't make excuses for Floyd ducking like he seems to be prone to do these days...
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
You kidding, Thurman has to beat Brooks, Khan and Bradley to earn a fight with Floyd.
Less dangerous fighters have earned the shot as far as I am concerned Thurman is better than Guerrero and Maidana for Floyd. At welterweight there is only Manny and Bradley left and they work for the dark side. Thurman is a better choice than Khan or Brooks.
Khan and Brooks have both beaten tougher opposition than Thurman at this point. You are correct that there are limited choices at the weight, but Thurman isn't the best choice in my opinion. My previous post came across different than what I intended. I don't feel that Thurman has to beat all three to earn the shot at Floyd. I was saying that for Thurman to have a realistic chance at beating Floyd, he needed to gradually step his competition up by fighting the level of fighters of Brooks, Khan n then Bradley.
What if that was said when Lomanchenko won his first title or fought for his first title? Floyd wasn't really "ready" for his first title either. He proved he was when he beat the man.
Don't make excuses for Floyd ducking like he seems to be prone to do these days...
Lomanchenko had a much more impressive and extensive amateur career, and he wasn't fighting the #1 P4P fighter in those fights. Floyd and Oscar both had great amateur careers and fought for a title early on, but neither faced P4P competition until much later. Final point about ur Lomanchenko comparison is that he lost against Salido, who is nowhere near the fighter Floyd is. I think u may have actually proven my point for me
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
Sarcasm, my friend. Guerrero and Ortiz got the Floyd fight because they beat Berto. It was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now. Thurman needs a big win at welterweight. Porter, Khan, Brook etc.
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I agree with Floyd. Thurman nowhere near ready for him. I don't think Floyd is ducking at all, just being honest.
If he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.
Disagree here also. Berto loses every time he steps up. I don't think that beating Berto or Broner automatically earns someone a shot at Floyd. Guerrero beat Berto n Floyd ran him out of the ring. It wasn't a match at all. If Thurman beats Kell Brook, then Khan n then a Bradley he will be ready. You don't jump to Floyd by beating Berto, it's not even close...
You kidding, Thurman has to beat Brooks, Khan and Bradley to earn a fight with Floyd.
Less dangerous fighters have earned the shot as far as I am concerned Thurman is better than Guerrero and Maidana for Floyd. At welterweight there is only Manny and Bradley left and they work for the dark side. Thurman is a better choice than Khan or Brooks.
THis is the excuse gayweather uses when he knows there is a vvery high chance he might get fucked up. THe money dick riders will agree with floyd everytime he fights someone that really has no bizness in the ring with him. I bet Bhop wouldnt run from a challenge. floyd is a ho....all he cares about is making money, not testing himself. the easier the better
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Mayweather's been avoiding me for years too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mayweather's been avoiding me for years too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since the Olympics, right???? Well, I can kind of see Floyd's point. You usually don't see Olympic medalists competing with Special Olympics participants...
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
He is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
He is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
Wilder is #1 for the WBCROCK and has never fought an opponent below 50. And when in the last 5 years has a mandatory ever effected Floyds decision making process?
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
Make that when in ten years?
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
He is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
I know saying opinions that are absurd as fact is your thing but don't switch facts as well. Manny had himself removed from being Floyd's mandatory by fighting the one guy available to be removed, Bradley. Who he had said was unnecessary to rematch. Unnecessary to rematch until Pac was Floyd's mandatory and set to get the small cut. Then suddenly that fight mattered to Manny.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
He is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
I know saying opinions that are absurd as fact is your thing but don't switch facts as well. Manny had himself removed from being Floyd's mandatory by fighting the one guy available to be removed, Bradley. Who he had said was unnecessary to rematch. Unnecessary to rematch until Pac was Floyd's mandatory and set to get the small cut. Then suddenly that fight mattered to Manny.
That was not the real reason why Floyd and Pac Man never fought. Manny had to avenge the loss, he would like to do the same thing against JMM but he will not let him.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
You beat me to it. Add to that an old Mosely, and a more than hyped Victor Ortiz, what exactly from IamInuit's logic are we to deduce??
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
He is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
Wilder is #1 for the WBCROCK and has never fought an opponent below 50. And when in the last 5 years has a mandatory ever effected Floyds decision making process?
I know right, but a mandatory that has a better idea of giving a better fight than anyone else out there.
If you feel Garcia, Khan, Alexander, Brook, can batter Thurman. Not win on points. But win decisively and batter him around, then you have to be out of your mind.
If Mayweather fights anyone other than Thurman or Manny, with the exception for Golovkin, then he is full of shit.
Put those three fights in the picture, I don't need to see a Canelo or Cotto rematch. Not at all. At MW or Jr. Middle.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Dude. What you been smoking ?
Maidana beat Adrien Broner to get Floyd. Broner was seen as the next FM.
Guerro had beaten a succession of top quality fighters to get Floyd, Katsidis, Berto, Casamayor.
Thurman should go fight a Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Canelo, Demetrius Andrade....see how he get's on...should he fight one of them guys and DESTROY them or win convincingly then you could take him seriously in assessing his chances of beating FM.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Dude. What you been smoking ?
Maidana beat Adrien Broner to get Floyd. Broner was seen as the next FM.
Guerro had beaten a succession of top quality fighters to get Floyd, Katsidis, Berto, Casamayor.
Thurman should go fight a Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Canelo, Demetrius Andrade....
see how he get's on...should he fight one of them guys and
DESTROY them or win convincingly then you could take him seriously in assessing his chances of beting FM.
Absolute horse shit with the sentence highlighted in red. Maidana whooped Broner's ass because it was presented to him, and Broner was feeling he was more than what he was at WW.
It was only WHEN Broner went crying, did Mayweather's ego kick in and decided he would prove he would always be better than Broner when he is off the scene. Regardless of what Broner felt about himself.
Mayweather's ego caused the Maidana fight. And proved Broner's worth as Mayweather did struggle for the first fight, and fought an unmotivated Maidana in the second fight.
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Thurman is the new ggg in the welterweight divison.
Didnt he draw with the guy that khan only just beat...the old lightweight?
Thurman should fight brook and khan..winner gets the money shot.
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Where did I bring up Khan and since when does a W/L record have anything to do with Mayweather? The guy is in it for the money and always has been. Whats pathetic is people think every new 20 year old with a pulse in the welter division deserves a shot at Floyd. If this shit keeps up there will be a challenger at his grave site.
And ftr Khan because of styles is most likely more dangerous then the new flavour of the month.
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Where did I bring up Khan and since when does a W/L record have anything to do with Mayweather? The guy is in it for the money and always has been. Whats pathetic is people think every new 20 year old with a pulse in the welter division deserves a shot at Floyd. If this shit keeps up there will be a challenger at his grave site.
And ftr Khan because of styles is most likely more dangerous then the new flavour of the month.
More horse shit. It's mentalities like this is what causes the game to be fucked up like it is. Sure, some mandatories are bums. But this mandatory, as was Manny, isn't.
Floyd cherry picking. He will make no more or less money fighting Thurman than he would Khan, give or take an extra 5 mil on the Khan side IF they fight in the UK- which will NOT happen.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Where did I bring up Khan and since when does a W/L record have anything to do with Mayweather? The guy is in it for the money and always has been. Whats pathetic is people think every new 20 year old with a pulse in the welter division deserves a shot at Floyd. If this shit keeps up there will be a challenger at his grave site.
And ftr Khan because of styles is most likely more dangerous then the new flavour of the month.
More horse shit. It's mentalities like this is what causes the game to be fucked up like it is. Sure, some mandatories are bums. But this mandatory, as was Manny, isn't.
Floyd cherry picking. He will make no more or less money fighting Thurman than he would Khan, give or take an extra 5 mil on the Khan side IF they fight in the UK- which will NOT happen.
Quit using horse shit cause you are a carrier. And why are you talking "mandatories" again? What does that have to do with anything? Do you actually believe that mandatory challenges are met as a rule? Do you think they have made diddly squat to how Floyd decides his career? You have the nut sack to cry horseshit? How naive is it to think that somehow Manny becomes a magic mandatory and then somehow Floyd is going to fight him even though they both blew a 100 million dollar fight.
Quit turning this into something I'm not saying before i get pissed off.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Dude. What you been smoking ?
Maidana beat Adrien Broner to get Floyd. Broner was seen as the next FM.
Guerro had beaten a succession of top quality fighters to get Floyd, Katsidis, Berto, Casamayor.
Thurman should go fight a Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Canelo, Demetrius Andrade....
see how he get's on...should he fight one of them guys and
DESTROY them or win convincingly then you could take him seriously in assessing his chances of beating FM.
Guerrero hadn't done anything other than beat Berto and that was after Ortiz beat Berto. Casamayor and Kastidis were wins at lightweight.
Other than Berto, he had only fought one other time at welterweight and that was a tough outing against Aydin.
Ortiz had also only beat Berto. Prior to fighting Berto, he had a draw against Lamont Peterson and had been stopped by Maidana.
Guerrero and Ortiz got the Mayweather fight because they beat Andre Berto.
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Broner had a SD win over Paullie Mallignaggi before Broner. Thats the first clue of how good Broner is at Welter. My argument is Floyd avoids the most dangerous fighters. The counter argument seems to be the dangerous opponent brings nothing to the table money wise. If that was the case why did he avoid Pac which would have been the biggest payday in history? Floyd just doesnt fight live fighters. He is the best fighter on the planet but the mans a pussy. Any man who beats on women is a pussy. If he was interested in being TBE hed fight these guys but he doesnt give a shit. ALl he cares about is money and he knows he can only get paid what he does with an unbeaten record, so he wont risk it against any dangerous looking fighter.
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What does fighting Gurerro have to do with the flavour of the month in Thurman and this ridiculous notion that Floyd is ducking him? Robert beat the snot out of Berto and then followed it up with a waxing of Aydin and that's after jumping straight from 135. What has Thurman done save managing a win over Diego Chaves? and a couple of journeymen in Diaz and Karass. Have him beat Porter or challenge Brook.
Floyds a fight or two from ending his career.
Seriously get a grip!
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What does fighting Gurerro have to do with the flavour of the month in Thurman and this ridiculous notion that Floyd is ducking him? Robert beat the snot out of Berto and then followed it up with a waxing of Aydin and that's after jumping straight from 135. What has Thurman done save managing a win over Diego Chaves? and a couple of journeymen in Diaz and Karass. Have him beat Porter or challenge Brook.
Floyds a fight or two from ending his career.
Seriously get a grip!
Jesus lam i never took you for a nuthugger. Who deserves a shot then? Going from your description noone deserves a shot and whoever Floyd choses is the right choice. For the rest of us who enjoy the credibility of boxing we want to see the best fight the best and actually challenge themselves instead of watching one dimensional limited fights chase floyd around the ring like a kid trying to swat a fly. And did you not watch the Guerrero fight? Guerrero took as much shots as Berto did and was alot more damaged at the end of the fight. That fight clearly showed Guerrero was not at the level of Floyd
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IamInuit
This shit is getting ridiculous. Floyd will be avoiding the Charlo brothers next. Why would Thurman even be on Floyds radar at this point? Its asinine and the pundits that write this garbage are strokers.
Why would Khan be on Floyds radar? Lost 2 of last 5, struggled agaisnt a guy Thurman flattened and one of them a nobody. Yea sounds like the type of opponent Floyd likes. Thurman is more deserving of a shot then Guerrero or Maidana was. Pathetic that you defend him for targeting weak opposition
Dude. What you been smoking ?
Maidana beat Adrien Broner to get Floyd. Broner was seen as the next FM.
Guerro had beaten a succession of top quality fighters to get Floyd, Katsidis, Berto, Casamayor.
Thurman should go fight a Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Canelo, Demetrius Andrade....
see how he get's on...should he fight one of them guys and
DESTROY them or win convincingly then you could take him seriously in assessing his chances of beting FM.
Absolute horse shit with the sentence highlighted in red. Maidana whooped Broner's ass because it was presented to him, and Broner was feeling he was more than what he was at WW.
It was only WHEN Broner went crying, did Mayweather's ego kick in and decided he would prove he would always be better than Broner when he is off the scene. Regardless of what Broner felt about himself.
Mayweather's ego caused the Maidana fight. And proved Broner's worth as Mayweather did struggle for the first fight, and fought an unmotivated Maidana in the second fight.
Maidana was not even thinking about fighting floyd when he mashed broner. When da fuc did broner become the mayweather gate keeper. Broner was shit before maidana and shit after. This logic is the shit gayweather fans came up with to keep him from looking like the lil bitch he has been for the last few years
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
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IamInuit
What does fighting Gurerro have to do with the flavour of the month in Thurman and this ridiculous notion that Floyd is ducking him? Robert beat the snot out of Berto and then followed it up with a waxing of Aydin and that's after jumping straight from 135. What has Thurman done save managing a win over Diego Chaves? and a couple of journeymen in Diaz and Karass. Have him beat Porter or challenge Brook.
Floyds a fight or two from ending his career.
Seriously get a grip!
Just so we're clear, Floyd isn't ducking Thurman. That's ridiculous.
I was only suggesting that Guerrero and Ortiz hadn't done much to "earn" a fight with Floyd either. While I agree that Thurman needs a high profile fight or two before Floyd, he's not a horrible fight on paper either considering Guerrero and Ortiz and considering there isn't a ton out there for Floyd at 147.
Like I said in another thread, Andrade is a decent match-up at 154 if he gets by Charlo. Who else?
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
People who are Floyd haters will look for any excuse to put him down. Facts are...he is BY FAR the most successful fighter in the business...he has put himself in that position through hard work and business acumen. There are no other fighters now, and VERY FEW historically, who are in his position: undefeated, richest athlete in sports, and very close to the end of their career. So his criteria for matchmaking at this stage is completely, and rightfully, different than any other fighter. He is not going to fight all the "up and comers." He is not going to fight guys at 160, etc, etc. You can hate on him all you want...but any other boxer in his position (again...there are none) would do the same.
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
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zhubin
People who are Floyd haters will look for any excuse to put him down. Facts are...he is BY FAR the most successful fighter in the business...he has put himself in that position through hard work and business acumen. There are no other fighters now, and VERY FEW historically, who are in his position: undefeated, richest athlete in sports, and very close to the end of their career. So his criteria for matchmaking at this stage is completely, and rightfully, different than any other fighter. He is not going to fight all the "up and comers." He is not going to fight guys at 160, etc, etc. You can hate on him all you want...but any other boxer in his position (again...there are none) would do the same.
Some boxing fans are just neanderthals. They don't have the intellectual capacity to understand genius.
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Re: Floyd avoiding Thurman now!
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
What does fighting Gurerro have to do with the flavour of the month in Thurman and this ridiculous notion that Floyd is ducking him? Robert beat the snot out of Berto and then followed it up with a waxing of Aydin and that's after jumping straight from 135. What has Thurman done save managing a win over Diego Chaves? and a couple of journeymen in Diaz and Karass. Have him beat Porter or challenge Brook.
Floyds a fight or two from ending his career.
Seriously get a grip!
Just so we're clear, Floyd isn't ducking Thurman. That's ridiculous.
I was only suggesting that Guerrero and Ortiz hadn't done much to "earn" a fight with Floyd either. While I agree that Thurman needs a high profile fight or two before Floyd, he's not a horrible fight on paper either considering Guerrero and Ortiz and considering there isn't a ton out there for Floyd at 147.
Like I said in another thread, Andrade is a decent match-up at 154 if he gets by Charlo. Who else?
I have no idea who. Floyds in a difficult spot and I personally think he's starting to fall apart. What I see is a % of the boxing public that just wants to see him lose no matter the costs. Some will attempt to justify just about anything as long as those chances of him losing increase.
Robinson pulled Aaron Wade out of a two year retirement and fought him along with avoiding Burley and the rest of the Murderers Row and people don't even bring that up when discussing him. It just seems to me that the bar isn't just raised for Floyd but its unreachable and much of that stems to the fact that he's a dick. I would not have wanted his childhood.
Ok back to who? The first question ought to be, does he really need anyone for legacy and the answer to that question is NO and neither does Manny or Hopkins etc etc. History will not be kind to either man because of the missed fight but the two are fine with their pugilist endeavors w/o it. I wanted Tito and Ike to fight just as bad as some wanted the phantom fight. It never happened.
I think Floyds wants the 50 but his body and mind are in disagreement. Lets remember that he is not obligated anymore then any other past great to fight life and death with every challenge or fight the biggest perceived threat of the day. I don't think he wants to fight Khan. I simply believe its an interesting matchup. One historically does well with swarmers and picks them apart but has never really fought a boxer as fast or faster then he is and the other has been bullied by swarmers and has rarely been able to show his skill set because he gets taken to the trenches. Floyd wont take him there. Its also a huge money fight and thats what Floyd craves. He's already crying about Oscar taking the Cinco de Mayo back.
He might prove everyone wrong and call it a day. I know what you are getting at and even his dad is calling for "a couple of easy ones" and that wont wash and who would his 50th be with? I dont know but I do know one thing. He's not ducking Thurman.