Does side to side movement work?
These days most trainers don't teach side to side footwork many have the idea that once you move out of range you have to work again to get that range back.
Others believe that using side to side movement can actually get you hit while you're moving to the side plus you're off your feet.it seems more and more these days that it's about the clinch and the pivot.many of the greatest defense of fighters today and past haver never used the side to side footwork.
What are your thoughts is side to side movement necessary in boxing or is it a fading fad?
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Do u actually watch fights?
All answers are there.
Mayweather uses side to side quite a lot
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Do u actually watch fights?
All answers are there.
Mayweather uses side to side quite a lot
I study fights fights! What I was referring to was both feet leaving the ground... It could be said that side steps and pivots can be paired! Both feet leaving the ground simultaneously is side stepping.
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You are better off circling left and right than you are moving 'side-to-side.'
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What I meant NVSEMIN is that most side stepping including mayweather's is this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL6...&v=ITk0W8Kl62Y
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In the economy of movement and the conservation of energy circular footwork is taught first because 1.its easy to do. 2.goes with flow of movement making easier to conserve energy. The blow is not as hard, as like jumping into the hook.
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The Cuban non-slide circling right to cut off the ring.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aue-gFVr1fo What bothers me about the side-to-side is that you will run into the hook.thats my peeve.
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There is a time and a place for everything to work and there is a time and a place where they wont work.
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There is a time and a place for everything to work and there is a time and a place where they wont work.
You raise a great point. If my man is ready to throw a left hook, deciding to circle that way might not be a good idea unless I'm planning to duck it. If I just slipped his jab though, or maybe I know I'm out of range, I'm as safe as I'm ever gonna be in the ring.
Let me raise the ultimate point - Success is doing the right thing at the right time and in the right place.
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There is a time and a place for everything to work and there is a time and a place where they wont work.
You raise a great point. If my man is ready to throw a left hook, deciding to circle that way might not be a good idea unless I'm planning to duck it. If I just slipped his jab though, or maybe I know I'm out of range, I'm as safe as I'm ever gonna be in the ring.
Let me raise the ultimate point - Success is doing the right thing at the right time and in the right place.
But you've already lost the fight if you got ring cut off.it's almost always the case that the one who controls the center of the ring wins so with side to side movement you're almost guaranteed to stay on the periphery.
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more details on the economy of motionhttp://youtu.be/9FGpcxXzpms?t=5m42s
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If you dont move the feet with the head, you have to go back to where the movement started, to regain balance of your structure.
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If you dont move the feet with the head, you have to go back to where the movement started, to regain balance of your structure.
More often than not I get hit standing in front of my opponent. Most importantly I don't like standing in front of a puncher.
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If you dont move the feet with the head, you have to go back to where the movement started, to regain balance of your structure.
Advice from the great Sugar Ray Leonard on circling http://youtu.be/h9JN80FUO2o?t=31s
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Nice routine
Great defensive fighter Ronald Wright on the problem of running and why its better to circle than to run.
http://youtu.be/aiYuq3Anx8I?t=1m57s
Great Larry Holmes better to circle on a big strong aggressive opponent Andre Ward In Ring Demonstration - YouTube
Mayweather catching an opponent off his feet and unbalanced, i've seen fighters get hit hard after being timed leaving the ground http://youtu.be/YqOJp9Wmayo?list=PL1B6F1FC1F202D9FE 2:33
Great Joe Calzaghe why its better to circle http://youtu.be/obrMqMMljNE?list=PL1B6F1FC1F202D9FE
Great Mike McCallum circle to land the (steal) jab to the body http://youtu.be/kMeGnD0zZGI?t=3m31s
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Why are you calling running/taking the feet off the ground side to side movement?
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Why are you calling running/taking the feet off the ground side to side movement?
Good question I was wondering when somebody was going to ask that question.in the video wright talked about running away from your opponent and he started doing the side to side. I have been hearing that word among trainers more and more as of lately referring to side to side as running.where moving 1 foot at a time is referred to as circling.
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Why are you calling running/taking the feet off the ground side to side movement?
Good question I was wondering when somebody was going to ask that question.in the video wright talked about running away from your opponent and he started doing the side to side. I have been hearing that word among trainers more and more as of lately referring to side to side as running.where moving 1 foot at a time is referred to as circling.
Ok so you're trying to make a distinction between circling (which you believe is good) and side to side movement (which you believe is bad). Would have been a much better thread if you actually communicated that idea from the start.
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Why are you calling running/taking the feet off the ground side to side movement?
Good question I was wondering when somebody was going to ask that question.in the video wright talked about running away from your opponent and he started doing the side to side. I have been hearing that word among trainers more and more as of lately referring to side to side as running.where moving 1 foot at a time is referred to as circling.
Ok so you're trying to make a distinction between circling (which you believe is good) and side to side movement (which you believe is bad). Would have been a much better thread if you actually communicated that idea from the start.
I didn't say that you said that! I'm merely comparing the two styles.fact. since I do the side to side if that helps. do you do the side step JMS?
here's the Ali step off... http://youtu.be/ITk0W8Kl62Y?t=20s
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Why are you calling running/taking the feet off the ground side to side movement?
Good question I was wondering when somebody was going to ask that question.in the video wright talked about running away from your opponent and he started doing the side to side. I have been hearing that word among trainers more and more as of lately referring to side to side as running.where moving 1 foot at a time is referred to as circling.
Ok so you're trying to make a distinction between circling (which you believe is good) and side to side movement (which you believe is bad). Would have been a much better thread if you actually communicated that idea from the start.
I didn't say that you said that! I'm merely comparing the two styles.fact. since I do the side to side if that helps. do you do the side step JMS?
here's the Ali step off...
http://youtu.be/ITk0W8Kl62Y?t=20s
Not often, maybe if I need to get out of a corner. I do prefer what you're calling circling most of the time.
Remember when I was preaching about doing the shoulder whirl to increase power and you said that it won't work... I stopped that. You were right...I'm not a hard ass.
All I know is side to side and the pendulum, but I'll tell you if your fighting for the center of the ring it's quicker,faster and better to move one foot then to move two. this is what the greats are preaching to us. At least You won't get timed coming off both feet. I agree there's time and place for everything.
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evasive aggression inside the pocket rolling & blocking with the use of the shoulder fascinating http://youtu.be/9FGpcxXzpms?t=2m44s
