Hopkins says he's ignored because he's black, also brags he ruined Pavlik's life

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PHILADELPHIA -- Unified light heavyweight titlist Bernard Hopkins believes race is the reason his pursuit of history hasn't been a bigger story outside of boxing.
Hopkins, who set records as the oldest boxer to win and defend world titles, will be two months shy of 50 when he faces unbeaten Sergey Kovalev in Saturday's light heavyweight title unification bout at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
In an exclusive interview with ESPN.com, Hopkins was asked the reason his record-setting run in recent years hasn't transcended the sport. "[It's] because I'm black," Hopkins said before the start of his media workout at the Joe Hand Boxing Gym. "What do you think if my name was Augustine, Herzenstein, Stern? Cappello? Marciano? Don't you understand the conflict of interest?

"If I was any of those names of any other background, I'd be on every billboard and every milk carton and every place to be. If we're talking 'American Dream,' here's a guy who almost threw his life away and he took this great country's great attributes and used it -- do for self, work hard and be a law-abiding citizen. I've done that for 26 years."
Hopkins (55-6-2, 32 KOs), who set a middleweight record with 20 title defenses from 1996 to 2005, was released from prison in 1988 after serving nearly five years for armed robbery.
"If you really look at it, I have done the 'American Dream' that people have died on boats to come here to live," Hopkins said. "I have done all of that and then you look back and say, 'Wait a minute, what's wrong here?' A lot of people are not bold to say it, but I am."
Hopkins is no stranger to speaking out about race. In 2011, he made national headlines for comments about then-Washington Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb not being "black enough."
On Saturday, Hopkins faces possibly his most dangerous challenge in more than a decade against Kovalev (25-0-1, 23 KOs), the feared Russian slugger whose 2011 opponent, Roman Simakov, died three days later from brain injuries suffered in the bout.
Hopkins claims a victory over the favored Kovalev wouldn't be enough to crack his top three of most significant in-ring performances. He reserves the top spot for his 2008 upset of unbeaten middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik in a 170-pound catchweight bout.
"That was the greatest moment of my life because it was undeniably white against black," Hopkins said. "The American story against the thug, even though he changed his life. The convicted felon. So it was me representing an entity that had changed in spite of what they say you should be able to do. But once you do it, they really don't want you to do it.
"And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."
Pavlik was never the same after losing to Hopkins. He surrendered his middleweight title two years later to Sergio Martinez amid troubles with alcohol and retired from the sport in January 2013 at the age of 30.

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Bernard Hopkins says race is reason his pursuit of history hasn't transcended boxing - ESPN

What a loser!

He's starting to whine just like Holmes used to.

Its so ridiculous on its base its not even funny. Here we go with the martyr card. I knew he had to play something. Talk about self absorbed. Hey Bernard the other guy is white. That stupid Alien mask is dumb enough. And please nobody say this is about drumming up business. To be honest I was waiting for some kind of race card but of all the ways to play it. Go for the jugular. Quote Kovalev's comments in the press or something. Bernard should worry a little more about remaining upright this Saturday and a little less about promotion when his cheque is already a guarantee. A little late in the day and he should have had a word with his promoter.

Never mind the physical evidence of his own career mocking what he said. He takes a leak beside Floyd Mayweather in Oscars bathroom. Yeah Bernard its because you are black.

It's so ridiculous when guys play the race card in boxing.

Yeah, you gotta be white to make it in boxing. Mayweather, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Ray Leonard, Ali, Joe Louis... they never drew a dime in the sport. Everyone knows you have to be white to make money in boxing... :roll eyes:

Bernard has had one of the most spectacular careers in boxing history, but the fact remains he has a style that doesn't appeal to mainstream audiences, and unlike Mayweather, he doesn't have that coveted "0" and the "mic skills" to make people give a shit.

Yeah he's right. Nobody paid attention when George Foreman....oh wait he knocked people out, never mind

This is just Hop psyching himself up. For anyone who has watched the sport for a while, just think back to how he behaved prior to Tito and Pavilik. He gets himself worked up and increases the chip on his shoulder to get his mind right and get himself pissed off and motivated to go to war against a guy who is supposed to beat him badly. Hop always does this, and he usually performs well when he does.

I could be wrong, but I don't view Hop as a racist, and this is really no different to things Floyd has said before. Think of his comments about Jeremy Lin in basketball, or even Manny in boxing. There is a perception that because it is common for black boxers to be the most dominant, they don't generate the following that whites, hispanics, asians...etc. do because they (whites, hispanics, asians) are more of the anomaly/rarity.

You have to admit, there is some truth to what he is saying. It is remarkable what he is currently doing and there really isn't the publicity you would expect. Same with his story, the fact that he did hard time in the Pen and has been able to turn his life around completely and become a model citizen.

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

This is just Hop psyching himself up. For anyone who has watched the sport for a while, just think back to how he behaved prior to Tito and Pavilik. He gets himself worked up and increases the chip on his shoulder to get his mind right and get himself pissed off and motivated to go to war against a guy who is supposed to beat him badly. Hop always does this, and he usually performs well when he does.

I could be wrong, but I don't view Hop as a racist, and this is really no different to things Floyd has said before. Think of his comments about Jeremy Lin in basketball, or even Manny in boxing. There is a perception that because it is common for black boxers to be the most dominant, they don't generate the following that whites, hispanics, asians...etc. do because they (whites, hispanics, asians) are more of the anomaly/rarity.

You have to admit, there is some truth to what he is saying. It is remarkable what he is currently doing and there really isn't the publicity you would expect. Same with his story, the fact that he did hard time in the Pen and has been able to turn his life around completely and become a model citizen.

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I agree completely about him psyching himself up. He says outrageous things and acts like a jerk leading up to big fights. Let him do it as long as he keeps on winning and proving critics wrong.


I'm white and I don't take it personally.


There was a very touching article years ago about how kindly Bernard treated a terminally ill white teenager. He treated the kid like gold and the kid passed away at home watching Bernard beat Pavlik as I recall.

Hopkins being Hopkins really nothing new. He doesn't care one way or another what fans or opponents think of him. He's a 50 yr old geezer who wears a Halloween mask to the ring and embarrasses kids half his age. More power to him....Kovalev was reached earlier for a response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ubh9cRDQXw

Chip on shoulder time. This guys makes me sick with his whining. He is worse than Holmes, Chavez, Sr, and JMM combined.:mad:

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

It's so ridiculous when guys play the race card in boxing.

Yeah, you gotta be white to make it in boxing. Mayweather, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Ray Leonard, Ali, Joe Louis... they never drew a dime in the sport. Everyone knows you have to be white to make money in boxing... :roll eyes:

Bernard has had one of the most spectacular careers in boxing history, but the fact remains he has a style that doesn't appeal to mainstream audiences, and unlike Mayweather, he doesn't have that coveted "0" and the "mic skills" to make people give a shit.

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Agree completely, good post, you said it much better than I could have.
I never expected to see a pussyfied side to Hopkins.

hes probly right about pavlik

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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PHILADELPHIA -- Unified light heavyweight titlist Bernard Hopkins believes race is the reason his pursuit of history hasn't been a bigger story outside of boxing.
Hopkins, who set records as the oldest boxer to win and defend world titles, will be two months shy of 50 when he faces unbeaten Sergey Kovalev in Saturday's light heavyweight title unification bout at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
In an exclusive interview with ESPN.com, Hopkins was asked the reason his record-setting run in recent years hasn't transcended the sport. "[It's] because I'm black," Hopkins said before the start of his media workout at the Joe Hand Boxing Gym. "What do you think if my name was Augustine, Herzenstein, Stern? Cappello? Marciano? Don't you understand the conflict of interest?

"If I was any of those names of any other background, I'd be on every billboard and every milk carton and every place to be. If we're talking 'American Dream,' here's a guy who almost threw his life away and he took this great country's great attributes and used it -- do for self, work hard and be a law-abiding citizen. I've done that for 26 years."
Hopkins (55-6-2, 32 KOs), who set a middleweight record with 20 title defenses from 1996 to 2005, was released from prison in 1988 after serving nearly five years for armed robbery.
"If you really look at it, I have done the 'American Dream' that people have died on boats to come here to live," Hopkins said. "I have done all of that and then you look back and say, 'Wait a minute, what's wrong here?' A lot of people are not bold to say it, but I am."
Hopkins is no stranger to speaking out about race. In 2011, he made national headlines for comments about then-Washington Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb not being "black enough."
On Saturday, Hopkins faces possibly his most dangerous challenge in more than a decade against Kovalev (25-0-1, 23 KOs), the feared Russian slugger whose 2011 opponent, Roman Simakov, died three days later from brain injuries suffered in the bout.
Hopkins claims a victory over the favored Kovalev wouldn't be enough to crack his top three of most significant in-ring performances. He reserves the top spot for his 2008 upset of unbeaten middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik in a 170-pound catchweight bout.
"That was the greatest moment of my life because it was undeniably white against black," Hopkins said. "The American story against the thug, even though he changed his life. The convicted felon. So it was me representing an entity that had changed in spite of what they say you should be able to do. But once you do it, they really don't want you to do it.
"And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."
Pavlik was never the same after losing to Hopkins. He surrendered his middleweight title two years later to Sergio Martinez amid troubles with alcohol and retired from the sport in January 2013 at the age of 30.

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Bernard Hopkins says race is reason his pursuit of history hasn't transcended boxing - ESPN

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Race matters in other sports. Why not Boxing ?

Look at the fallout when Barry Bonds become the all-time home run king of Major League Baseball and ppl said he used steds ? So non-black baseball fans demanded that an asterisk be placed by Bonds name in the record books.

Yet DiMaggio, Williams, Ruth benefited from the racist exclusion of black athletes from the major leagues ?

And yes, that Hank Aaron (A black guy) was the guy who records Bonds broken means nothing, just because you like certain black athletes, doesn’t mean that racism are not in the equation on the occasions when you feel otherwise.

Whites have long demonstrated a preference for smiling black folks. If black folks play by the script set up by whites – don’t be angry, don’t question authority, don’t be arrogant, don’t be political then everything will be O.K.

But if blacks deviate, non-blacks often see it as a racial challenge (in ways they wouldn’t if another white person did it), and react angrily.

Black athletes should not have to kiss your asses

Hopkins is right.

Hopkins like you is acting dumb and becoming his own self fulfilling prophecy.

I thought the Bonds issue was because he was a blatant cheat ?

I thought the race card argument in boxing kind of went out the window 50-60 years ago ??

certainly never heard it in my lifetime

Hopkins is talking bollocks. Fact

"And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."

What a disgusting cunt.

Pavlik ruined himself through drinking not Hopkins.

B Hop is a boring preacher.

Black, white or green, in the ring what he is doing at his advanced age is amazing.

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Originally Posted by denilson200

Race matters in other sports. Why not Boxing ?

Look at the fallout when Barry Bonds become the all-time home run king of Major League Baseball and ppl said he used steds ? So non-black baseball fans demanded that an asterisk be placed by Bonds name in the record books.

Yet DiMaggio, Williams, Ruth benefited from the racist exclusion of black athletes from the major leagues ?

And yes, that Hank Aaron (A black guy) was the guy who records Bonds broken means nothing, just because you like certain black athletes, doesn’t mean that racism are not in the equation on the occasions when you feel otherwise.

Whites have long demonstrated a preference for smiling black folks. If black folks play by the script set up by whites – don’t be angry, don’t question authority, don’t be arrogant, don’t be political then everything will be O.K.

But if blacks deviate, non-blacks often see it as a racial challenge (in ways they wouldn’t if another white person did it), and react angrily.

Black athletes should not have to kiss your asses

Hopkins is right.

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#1 Barry Bonds DID use steroids as did McGwire and Sosa and all of them paid the price it's just Bonds usage of roids happened AFTER the world caught on to the ped problem in baseball.

#2 Baseball demanded an asterisk by Roger Maris' name as well....he was black as midnight wasn't he?

#3 Hank Aaron (black) was/is the All-Time Homeruns record holder before Bonds broke that record with the aid of peds.

But you go right on ahead and feel persecuted we all know it's your default setting. I'm happy that you take comfort in the fact that if you aren't handed something on a silver platter you can fall back on the awesome excuse "well it must be because I'm black".....such ownership you have of your own destiny, so brave and responsible to blame anything bad that happens to you as happening to you 100% because of your skin color....MLK, Malcolm X, etc they would be SO SO proud of you for always having your race to use as an excuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control

Yawn :beat:


That victim shit gets old really quick. The dude's a chronic malcontent, it's sad :rolleyes:

I bet BHOP checks under his bed every night for the "White Devil" before going to sleep ;D

I wonder what race his PED guy is?

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Originally Posted by denilson200

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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PHILADELPHIA -- Unified light heavyweight titlist Bernard Hopkins believes race is the reason his pursuit of history hasn't been a bigger story outside of boxing.
Hopkins, who set records as the oldest boxer to win and defend world titles, will be two months shy of 50 when he faces unbeaten Sergey Kovalev in Saturday's light heavyweight title unification bout at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
In an exclusive interview with ESPN.com, Hopkins was asked the reason his record-setting run in recent years hasn't transcended the sport. "[It's] because I'm black," Hopkins said before the start of his media workout at the Joe Hand Boxing Gym. "What do you think if my name was Augustine, Herzenstein, Stern? Cappello? Marciano? Don't you understand the conflict of interest?

"If I was any of those names of any other background, I'd be on every billboard and every milk carton and every place to be. If we're talking 'American Dream,' here's a guy who almost threw his life away and he took this great country's great attributes and used it -- do for self, work hard and be a law-abiding citizen. I've done that for 26 years."
Hopkins (55-6-2, 32 KOs), who set a middleweight record with 20 title defenses from 1996 to 2005, was released from prison in 1988 after serving nearly five years for armed robbery.
"If you really look at it, I have done the 'American Dream' that people have died on boats to come here to live," Hopkins said. "I have done all of that and then you look back and say, 'Wait a minute, what's wrong here?' A lot of people are not bold to say it, but I am."
Hopkins is no stranger to speaking out about race. In 2011, he made national headlines for comments about then-Washington Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb not being "black enough."
On Saturday, Hopkins faces possibly his most dangerous challenge in more than a decade against Kovalev (25-0-1, 23 KOs), the feared Russian slugger whose 2011 opponent, Roman Simakov, died three days later from brain injuries suffered in the bout.
Hopkins claims a victory over the favored Kovalev wouldn't be enough to crack his top three of most significant in-ring performances. He reserves the top spot for his 2008 upset of unbeaten middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik in a 170-pound catchweight bout.
"That was the greatest moment of my life because it was undeniably white against black," Hopkins said. "The American story against the thug, even though he changed his life. The convicted felon. So it was me representing an entity that had changed in spite of what they say you should be able to do. But once you do it, they really don't want you to do it.
"And so I exposed it and I beat him easily after being a 6-to-1 underdog. And, matter of fact, it even went further. I ruined his life. I ruined his career."
Pavlik was never the same after losing to Hopkins. He surrendered his middleweight title two years later to Sergio Martinez amid troubles with alcohol and retired from the sport in January 2013 at the age of 30.

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Bernard Hopkins says race is reason his pursuit of history hasn't transcended boxing - ESPN

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Race matters in other sports. Why not Boxing ?

Look at the fallout when Barry Bonds become the all-time home run king of Major League Baseball and ppl said he used steds ? So non-black baseball fans demanded that an asterisk be placed by Bonds name in the record books.

Yet DiMaggio, Williams, Ruth benefited from the racist exclusion of black athletes from the major leagues ?

And yes, that Hank Aaron (A black guy) was the guy who records Bonds broken means nothing, just because you like certain black athletes, doesn’t mean that racism are not in the equation on the occasions when you feel otherwise.

Whites have long demonstrated a preference for smiling black folks. If black folks play by the script set up by whites – don’t be angry, don’t question authority, don’t be arrogant, don’t be political then everything will be O.K.

But if blacks deviate, non-blacks often see it as a racial challenge (in ways they wouldn’t if another white person did it), and react angrily.

Black athletes should not have to kiss your asses

Hopkins is right.

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Sir, you have a bad case of "everyone is out to get the black man!".
Look around, pro boxing is an equal opportunity employer, in boxing you can go to the top or get used up or go to bottom or have most of your money stolen no matter what your skin color is.
Hopkins has done very, very well in boxing and you seem pissed off that everybody doesn't love him no matter what his fighting style is.
What do you think everyone's reaction would be if Wlad started saying he doesn't get the respect he should and then blamed in on being white or Ukrainian?
Just because you are a champion or do great things in your life does not mean you will get the respect you want or think you deserve.
You aren't going to try to tell me black folks wouldn't rather see smiling white faces, are you?

By all means, give the man credit for what he has accomplished and how he did it and if need be stand in awe of it. I know I do but at the same time people need to call him on his bullshit. I know you are infatuated with Archie Moore Bernard but take a pill. This is not 1952, you are not part of the Murderers Row and you never had to fight 160 times to get a title shot. The victim card is lame and an odd way to display extreme narcissism. Goes with the total self absorption of that silly wrestling mask though. The more I think about it, the bragging about ruining Pavliks life combined with all the rest could possibly certify you as a sociopath. And not just your every day regular bargain variety sociopath.

Someone is obviously feeling a bit insecure and needs a bit more attention in the build up to the fight.:rolleyes: The most Ridiculous thing is that the sport he's in has had more Black Icons than almost any other.
I wonder if Carl Lewis and Usain Bolt will start saying the same thing? ;D

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Black, white or green, in the ring what he is doing at his advanced age is amazing.

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I would have to agree on all your observations

If he beats Kovalev and then goes on to beat Stevenson when he's 50 he'll actually start to get some national recognition. The US sports media can't ignore a 50 year old guy becoming lineal light heavyweight champ. It's a hell of a story and everybody will want him on their show.

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If he beats Kovalev and then goes on to beat Stevenson when he's 50 he'll actually start to get some national recognition. The US sports media can't ignore a 50 year old guy becoming lineal light heavyweight champ. It's a hell of a story and everybody will want him on their show.

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Yes and just like George Foreman he will be loved by the mainstream and he can sell grills and dentures.

Hopkins is crap to watch he is just terrible, he wins ugly he bitches and moans cheats a dirty
twat, what did he say about Calzaghe no white guy is going to beat me.
He's a racist and a former criminal, a really nice chap salt of the earth.:rolleyes:

Hopkins is creating hype.

Jeez guys, get over it!

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Originally Posted by imp

Hopkins is creating hype.

Jeez guys, get over it!

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....oh wait he's black not much there to fuck up eh...eh my lily white comrades?

Yes he has overplayed the card.
Yes he is right that what he has done at his age-has never been done in anysport.

When it's all said and done, there is some racism in play, but other boxers can claim nationalism, not racism; they just don't.

For example:
IMO-If Wladimir & Vitali Klitchko were Wally & Victor Williams from humbletown USA, they would be on their 4th box box of wheeties, (or frosted flakes if they're like bong-smoking Mike Phelps).

7up, Coca-Cola, Mr.Pibb, Pizza Hut, Snickers candy, Pez candy, Dominos, Little Nasty Ceasars Pizza, their 6th appearance on the tonight show, 3rd on Dave Ledderman, Menards; Sprint & Verizon would be on a war bid, so, too would Apple & Microsoft.

Yet both Vitali & wlad could be called white guys, but Sports Illustrated doesn't illustrate how dominant they have been as heavyweights. In fact they have somewhat ignored the shit outta them IMO.

So they don't cry that America or Sports Illustrated or ESPN doesn't love them.. it's a pride thing for USA to love Americans, Mexico to love Mexicans for starters.

So if Nationalism eludes Hopkins, then African-Americans should get the brunt of his rant as well since African-Americans have proven unquestionable love for Ali, Ray Leonard, Tyson, RJJ, & PBF.

Hopkins needs to be asked why such a lack of respect coming -first from his own which is as elusive as that from a national perspective.
but that's just my opinion...

Bernard Hopkins is an amazing boxer, an all time great, a future hall of famer...but to say "I don't get attention because I'm black" as a BOXER...it's an insult to the intelligence of the fans!

American boxing idols: Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Tommy Hearns, sure Marciano is up there and De la Hoya, and others of white or Hispanic background but for fucks sake Hopkins needs to drop the race card out of his playing deck because it is just fucking dumb on it's face.

People don't pay as much attention to BHop as he is not a heavyweight and he doesn't knock out fighters...his style is effective but ugly as shit and that has been the case his entire career.

Hopkins best fight??? The KO of De la Hoya or Trinidad right???

What Hopkins need to realise is his last big win was in 2008, 6 years ago agaisnt Pavlik. Since then hes lost to a shit Dawson, drawn with an average Pascal and beaten a couple of europeans that arent that good, f he beats Kov he gets huge respect but the mosre likely scenario is he gets found out,

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

What Hopkins need to realise is his last big win was in 2008, 6 years ago agaisnt Pavlik. Since then hes lost to a shit Dawson, drawn with an average Pascal and beaten a couple of europeans that arent that good, f he beats Kov he gets huge respect but the mosre likely scenario is he gets found out,

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He beat pascal twice n dominated him the second time. You are slandering Hopkins sir.

Shumenov accomplished nothing and was dropped.

Cloud was dominated.

These were world titlists not European nobodies.

I don't completely disagree with him. If you were to take a white American who had the exact same record and was world champion at this age, he'd be a lot more well known outside of boxing no matter how shitty and narrow minded a person he was. I think it's a little bit wishful or naive to pretend that isn't true.
What is more important though; and what obviously doesn't register with old Hopkins, is that he gets a lot less respect than he would in no small part because he comes up with stuff like this every other time you put him behind a mic. If there were a white Bernard Hopkins, he'd basically be some Aryan Brotherhood thug who was on record saying he'd never lose to a black man and that they are holding him back. But apparently that guy would be on Milk Cartons and sitting on massive endorsement deals if you ask this idiot:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

#1 Barry Bonds DID use steroids as did McGwire and Sosa and all of them paid the price it's just Bonds usage of roids happened AFTER the world caught on to the ped problem in baseball.

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Not only that, but McGwire and Sosa exhibited the opposite attitudes from Bonds after getting caught in the PED scandal. McGwire and Sosa were contrite and apologetic, while Bonds became aloof, defensive, and arrogant.

(Not to mention his head grew to melon-sized proportions, and he was generally twice the size of the Bonds that broke into the major leagues years earlier with the Pirates. Damning evidence right there).

His devastating KO loss to Kovalev will be largely ignored as well.

If he wants attention he should submit himself to drugs testing. I'm sure people would love to know the truth about his longevity in the sport. I guess that's not the kind of attention he wants tho.

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His devastating KO loss to Kovalev will be largely ignored as well.

If he wants attention he should submit himself to drugs testing. I'm sure people would love to know the truth about his longevity in the sport. I guess that's not the kind of attention he wants tho.

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Ouch, I like this guy.

I think Hopkins went on the TRT after mixing with some MMA fighters. I think its the coaches he has and his hard work that makes him last so long. But I agree I think hes on TRT now and wouldn't fair so well without it. Age catches us all.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

His devastating KO loss to Kovalev will be largely ignored as well.

If he wants attention he should submit himself to drugs testing. I'm sure people would love to know the truth about his longevity in the sport. I guess that's not the kind of attention he wants tho.

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In fairness I think that's a leap. You cant assume that because he's fought for 26 years he is taking Peds.Its not all that uncommon for technicians to have long careers and in some cases even technical/scrap savvy guys like Duran. Pep fought for 26 years and fought close to 250 times. Moore for 28 years and 220 fights. I dont think I've ever seen Hopkins get beat up and hurt bad. Safety first counter punchers like Hop preserve well. His last few years have been testimony to that as his punch count and over all look has shown some major decline.

Another thing to consider is that he has not knocked anyone out since that love tap on Oscar. If he's taking roids then he needs to change dealers.

Lastly although I think he can be a narcissistic, self righteous, racist, delusional dip shit, he's one of the last guys that I think would juice. During his middleweight run he was routinely close to the same weight on fight night as he was at the weigh in. That is no easy task when you started at 175. The guy quite literally lived at the gym. He did do it the hard way and it paid off. I just dont see him turning his back on all those things he taught his kids. I dont see him gambling with that shit at this stage in his life. He'd rather stink the place out and pull off the win.

Hopkins is he a classic box fighter NO, is he exciting to WATCH NO, does he in dear himself to
the the public NO.
What is he a criminal that turned to boxing, he has made a very decent living out of boxing,
he is a RACIST, if Calzaghe had made the same comment he would still be slated today,
but Joe has more class in his little finger than Hopkins.
But Hopkins is given a free ride by all referees, to brake ever rule in the book he's a cheat
a play actor, a rather unlike able individual inside or outside the ring.;)

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

What Hopkins need to realise is his last big win was in 2008, 6 years ago agaisnt Pavlik. Since then hes lost to a shit Dawson, drawn with an average Pascal and beaten a couple of europeans that arent that good, f he beats Kov he gets huge respect but the mosre likely scenario is he gets found out,

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Isn't it a bit late in the day for Hopkins to be getting found out?