No 'Stand Your Ground' Law Leaves Boxer Facing Million-Dollar Payday Also Facing 26 Years in Jail
OOOOOOH a Stand Your Ground case too I'm sure that will make Denilson a happy camper
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No 'Stand Your Ground' Law Leaves Boxer Facing Million-Dollar Payday Also Facing 26 Years in Jail
OOOOOOH a Stand Your Ground case too I'm sure that will make Denilson a happy camper
It doesn't even sound like he should have been charged the way they describe the facts, I'd put money on his being found not guilty. He's in his house with his wife and kids, had warned the drug addict cousin not to enter or to leave, what can he do besides "stand his ground". Whether he had other options or not in reality, considering the cousin lived and has since apologized, I don't see him getting time.
Depends...you never know what kind of DA is running this case.
Indeed and boxers have a tendency to not get the benefit of doubt but @p4pking makes solid points on the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Still, was a gun necessary let alone using it? Dangerous use of a firearm perhaps?
Not really related but I continue to wonder why Vernon chased armed robbers for a freakin watch?
With his child in the car....so sad and senselessQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Cuz it was his watch. And he was armed. Wasn't expecting to get shot in the backQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIndeed and boxers have a tendency to not get the benefit of doubt but @p4pking makes solid points on the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Still, was a gun necessary let alone using it? Dangerous use of a firearm perhaps?
Not really related but I continue to wonder why Vernon chased armed robbers for a freakin watch?
Screw the watch. Who cares if its a Rolex. Dumber then a sack of hammers and with a kid in the car no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseCuz it was his watch. And he was armed. Wasn't expecting to get shot in the backQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIndeed and boxers have a tendency to not get the benefit of doubt but @p4pking makes solid points on the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Still, was a gun necessary let alone using it? Dangerous use of a firearm perhaps?
Not really related but I continue to wonder why Vernon chased armed robbers for a freakin watch?
Some people just don't like being robbed. And the kid was in the gas station when everything went down. It wasn't in any dangerQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitScrew the watch. Who cares if its a Rolex. Dumber then a sack of hammers and with a kid in the car no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseCuz it was his watch. And he was armed. Wasn't expecting to get shot in the backQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIndeed and boxers have a tendency to not get the benefit of doubt but @p4pking makes solid points on the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Still, was a gun necessary let alone using it? Dangerous use of a firearm perhaps?
Not really related but I continue to wonder why Vernon chased armed robbers for a freakin watch?
Most don't like getting robbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hurt or kill my mother or anyone else in my family including my dogs and I’ll max out my credit, cross oceans and live in the jungle to catch up to you and bleed you out slowly while I read Immanuel Kant aloud.
Taking my watch by armed robbery while my child is in the car saves your life.
Robbing me in front of my child guarantees me putting 2 in your head. Vernon did what he had to do. There was no way he could of know there was more than 1 fool involvedQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitMost don't like getting robbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Hurt or kill my mother or anyone else in my family including my dogs and I’ll max out my credit, cross oceans and live in the jungle to catch up to you and bleed you out slowly while I read Immanuel Kant aloud.
Taking my watch by armed robbery while my child is in the car saves your life.
He was a fighter. He had to chase them.
"No wide-ranging "stand your ground" law, the likes of which boosted George Zimmerman's chances of acquittal in his shooting of Trayvon Martin in Florida, exists in Arkansas."
Zimmerman's case wasn't a "stand your ground" case.
I don't know the details of Jermain's incident but there are obviously very strict laws attached to using a firearm to defend yourself. So who knows.
Fighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
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Originally Posted by MasterFighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
You think all fighters are the same ? all are made up of the same personality ? all behave the same ?
Glad you work for the probation service no wonder the country is fucked.
What I read in the case of Zimmerman, was that the basis of the Law which lead to his aquital was the "Stand your Ground" Law or "No duty to retreat", which I would think makes the article heading technically correct. Where as in Taylor case, the his state has a "Duty to Retreat" Law. Yes, the argument is "Self Defense" but the basis of the Law "Stand Your Ground" is to show what was the intent. Everything is about semantics but that is precisely what Lawyers argue. Taylor appearently made a recorded threat and afterward shot his cousin multiple times and also missed several times. The part about terroristic treat, I would think should surely be thrown out, but the intent to cause injury seems clear. So, my guess is there should be more emphasis on what the Jury will decide about his state of mind when he took the shots. Appearently the cousin is only in serious condition so I would think he would testify. I think it looks really bad for Taylor, even if he is seen as exercising self defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
So now it's masters fault the country is fucked? I for one am grateful for his contribution in what must be a pretty thankless job. It's krap working in the cjs, long hours, low pay and depressing case after case. I am glad not to be a caseworker anymore but have full respect for those still doing it . Someone has to do these jobs and often their hands are tied in understaffed offices with superiors who don't give a toss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
You think all fighters are the same ? all are made up of the same personality ? all behave the same ?
Glad you work for the probation service no wonder the country is fucked.
Yeah generalising about groups of people. Who'd do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
You think all fighters are the same ? all are made up of the same personality ? all behave the same ?
Glad you work for the probation service no wonder the country is fucked.
The worst kinds of people would do that....and THEY (the worst kinds of people) also called you ugly and said that you stink.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanYeah generalising about groups of people. Who'd do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
You think all fighters are the same ? all are made up of the same personality ? all behave the same ?
Glad you work for the probation service no wonder the country is fucked.
You are a head case. The country is fucked? With people like you in it. Yes it is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFighters should actually know better and just leave it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Martial artists were asked if they were robbed at gunpoint would you fight or give the money all said just give the money.
You think all fighters are the same ? all are made up of the same personality ? all behave the same ?
Glad you work for the probation service no wonder the country is fucked.