What I saw in the arena, Fury, Eubank

The Fury fight was booed because it was just so easy for him. It will slowly dawn on people the more they sit and watch him but last night this was supposed to be a much improved, fitter, lighter best ever version of Chisora.

The reality was that Fury was too good and will be difficult for anyone to beat. People were frustrated because every time he caught Chisora he would hurt him but then not go in for the kill. Was it his recent virus, not pushing himself? Or what I think, getting rounds in?

It looked as though he could take Chisora out with that first left hook he landed in the first round, Chisoras legs went. Im pretty sure they wanted to get rounds in the bag.

Eubank was supposedly inexperienced, fighting a very experienced olympian who would box his ears off and even stop him. The reality was that Eubank took a few rounds to settle down and once he did he outworked and bulled Saunders and had him all over the shop in the last few rounds when he started letting his hands go. Even some of the "gypsy men" round us had Eubank the winner and cheered him come the end!

Eubank was inexperienced over 12 but now he has this in the bag, any rematch will end badly for Saunders.

The bar was massive, the staff were useless. People were smoking and drinking all round the ring. The gypsy sat right behind me was chatting to an albanian telling him they should go in to business together roofing and he already earns £20,000 a week and they will go 50/50;D i was filming bits and pieces on my ipad and he asked if I could move it to my right and tries pushing my arm to my left. I pointed out that was left and not right and everyone laughed at him, then he replies he's a traveller and doesn't know his left from his right. Any time someone left their seat in the floor blocks, the gypsies would move in like squaters, although on the paying seat holders return they would move. I heard if Saumders lost to get out sharpish as the place was going to get turned over;D Maybe thats the reason for the decision?;D

I heard a lot of "fuck my mother" being said by the gypsies in weird irish/west country accents.

Frank Buglionis fans need to buy seats closer to the ring so he can actually hear them the cheap fuckers all bunched together in the nose bleeds!

Frank warren likes to walk around and be seen alot.

Someone sat in front of me when hearing us mention Kugan Cassius turned to us and said he fell out with him because he's a "facking" drug dealer and a prostitute!!?;D ok...

We weren't supposed to take drinks in to the arena which no one seemed to realise before hand as we all ended up congregated at the entrance trying to see the first round of Chambers fight from about 100 meters away!

Brilliant assessment of the Tyson Dreary fight... :D

Fury did brilliantly considering he has not fought for nearly 2 years!

Nice summary @ross/

Ring girls were hot. :cool:

You been to any fights before Ross?

You do know Eubank was favorite and the least likely outcome was Saunders KO. The fight clearly showed it was too big a jump for Eubank. Eubank won the first 5 and won at least 2 of the last 7 to deserve the win. If Eubank had 2 fights before this one against decent standard opposition, like Blackwell and Ryder/O Sullivan, he probably would have won. But he fought like a complete tool in the 1st half of the fight.

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

You do know Eubank was favorite and the least likely outcome was Saunders KO. The fight clearly showed it was too big a jump for Eubank. Eubank won the first 5 and won at least 2 of the last 7 to deserve the win. If Eubank had 2 fights before this one against decent standard opposition, like Blackwell and Ryder/O Sullivan, he probably would have won. But he fought like a complete tool in the 1st half of the fight.

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When the fight was announced was Eubank favourite?

Im not sure he did win 2 of the last seven and one thing I can say is I was a boxing judge, amateur. I know its different but have an idea of what the judges should be looking for. You make odds, not judge fights. I wont have a stab at what I think fight odds should be;)

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You do know Eubank was favorite and the least likely outcome was Saunders KO. The fight clearly showed it was too big a jump for Eubank. Eubank won the first 5 and won at least 2 of the last 7 to deserve the win. If Eubank had 2 fights before this one against decent standard opposition, like Blackwell and Ryder/O Sullivan, he probably would have won. But he fought like a complete tool in the 1st half of the fight.

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When the fight was announced was Eubank favourite?

Im not sure he did win 2 of the last seven and one thing I can say is I was a boxing judge, amateur. I know its different but have an idea of what the judges should be looking for. You make odds, not judge fights. I wont have a stab at what I think fight odds should be;)

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Eubank was slight underdog from opening til yesterday afternoon. He went off a slight fav.

Yeah it was just late money that bumped him up. He was the underdog.

I wish I had seen Eubank lose live , would have been very satisfying .
Eubank family have short memories dad got many gift points wins when he should have lost , so I fail to see how they can even complain in a close fight.

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I wish I had seen Eubank lose live , would have been very satisfying .
Eubank family have short memories dad got many gift points wins when he should have lost , so I fail to see how they can even complain in a close fight.

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Plenty of gypsy men who went in there supporting Saunders also thought Eubank won.

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I wish I had seen Eubank lose live , would have been very satisfying .
Eubank family have short memories dad got many gift points wins when he should have lost , so I fail to see how they can even complain in a close fight.

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Plenty of gypsy men who went in there supporting Saunders also thought Eubank won.

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Well if plenty of Gypsy men thought Eubank won , then i'm sure the BBBC will reverse the decision , based on their qualified , expert views. Do you often seek advice off Gypsy's ?

He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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I have no problem , Eubank lost that is what the record books say , and according to many he lost to a feather fisted over rated champion.

Saunders clearly won, split decision was a joke :p I think saunders gave Eubank too much respect and I'd see him beating him easier in a return ;D

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He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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I have no problem , Eubank lost that is what the record books say , and according to many he lost to a feather fisted over rated champion.

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Is he over rated?

He only got battered about over the second half (where his experience should have taken over) by a novice who's been a pro half the time he has and not fought anywhere near the quality of his own opposition, or been to the olympics....

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Originally Posted by La Cucaracha

Saunders clearly won, split decision was a joke :p I think saunders gave Eubank too much respect and I'd see him beating him easier in a return ;D

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I know this. I saw it first hand.

It had a lot to do with Eubank punching him in the belly and face;D

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He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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I have no problem , Eubank lost that is what the record books say , and according to many he lost to a feather fisted over rated champion.

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Is he over rated?

He only got battered about over the second half (where his experience should have taken over) by a novice who's been a pro half the time he has and not fought anywhere near the quality of his own opposition, pr been to the olympics.....

;D

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You miss my point , BJS is not very good , however he won the fight , so Eubank isn't very good either.

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He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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I have no problem , Eubank lost that is what the record books say , and according to many he lost to a feather fisted over rated champion.

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Is he over rated?

He only got battered about over the second half (where his experience should have taken over) by a novice who's been a pro half the time he has and not fought anywhere near the quality of his own opposition, pr been to the olympics.....

;D

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You miss my point , BJS is not very good , however he won the fight , so Eubank isn't very good either.

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Eubank has the capacity to be much better simply by starting earlier and no loading up.

Saunders tried his best using all his experience and a special training camp and getting in the best shape of his 6 year pro career. He doesn't seem to have the same capacity for improvement. When Eubank adapted, Saunders struggled to keep up.

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He won the respect of a partisan crowd Al.

Not sure what your problem is tonight.

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I have no problem , Eubank lost that is what the record books say , and according to many he lost to a feather fisted over rated champion.

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Is he over rated?

He only got battered about over the second half (where his experience should have taken over) by a novice who's been a pro half the time he has and not fought anywhere near the quality of his own opposition, pr been to the olympics.....

;D

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You miss my point , BJS is not very good , however he won the fight , so Eubank isn't very good either.

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Eubank has the capacity to be much better simply by starting earlier and no loading up.

Saunders tried his best using all his experience and a special training camp and getting in the best shape of his 6 year pro career. He doesn't seem to have the same capacity for improvement.

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I think Saunders has reached his level also.

and Eubank can do better.

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Originally Posted by ross

and Eubank can do better.

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Lets wait and see , all I know is if he throws shots from the floor like he did against Saunders , someone like GGG will put him away easily.

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You been to any fights before Ross?

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Pro fights, no. Im in Guernsey so a mission and costly to get away. This had 2 of my favourite current fighters on it and was too good to miss.

Well Eubank could always come over here and challenge Mundine ;D.

Simular weights, theres a 'silver' title,Both are father son teams,both like show boating, both like mouthing off how great they are,both think they are the next best thing and love the media trumpet.

Be like smashing two mirrors together.;D

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You been to any fights before Ross?

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Pro fights, no. Im in Guernsey so a mission and costly to get away. This had 2 of my favourite current fighters on it and was too good to miss.

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Ross,

If this was your first one you have now learned

1. That if there are a load of pikeys there you are better off well over the drink drive limit and happy, I base my experience on Johnny Frankham versus Chris Finnegan at the Albert Hall.
2. THat FRank Warren is a cunt, who treats performing fighters and paying customers like shit, he's been promoting for years and the cunt still cant work out a timetable?
3. That to get back from Exel after FRank Warren 'showtime' has eventually finished costs us england dwellers £75 or more in a taxi to get home, or even a hotel!
4. That Terry Marsh, the first ever European World champion to retire undefeated, was not that good on the ranges when he was a marine.

Fat Micks shows are normally good, so your half way there picking Fury to follow, but if you'd picked Price you would have the best promoter in Europe in Kalle Sauerland, and if your flying anyway whats the difference between London or Germany?

Eubank claimed he is the best in the world bar maybe Ward. He clearly isnt. Hes a tremendous talent with great physical ability. He probably will win a world title at some point but I dont think he'll ever be number one in his div. If fighters are going to hype themselves up the way he has when they fail they will get criticism. Its fair.

On a side note when they were announcing the winner Saunders went mad when Lennon Jr anounced "and still undefeated". would have been comical if it was Eubank.

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Originally Posted by La Cucaracha

Saunders clearly won, split decision was a joke :p I think saunders gave Eubank too much respect and I'd see him beating him easier in a return ;D

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I know this. I saw it first hand.

It had a lot to do with Eubank punching him in the belly and face;D

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Eubank has to bring more than the uppercut and learn how to throw it from the right distance. Dude is an accident waiting to happen :p

Saunders would beat him again :D

Chisora came in overweight, no business playing with the big boys.

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Originally Posted by boyla

Chisora came in overweight, no business playing with the big boys.

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Chisora wanted the extra weight.