This year has almost come to a end, who do you think has been the most talented up and coming
fighter you have seen in 2014.!!
Also do you think they will go on to be Champions, in the future a list please.?
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This year has almost come to a end, who do you think has been the most talented up and coming
fighter you have seen in 2014.!!
Also do you think they will go on to be Champions, in the future a list please.?
Lomachenko, Nicholas Walters and Crawford come to mind.
Eubank Jr deserves a mention.
Could we say work in progres.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Crawford is a stand out, it bothers me to say I agree completely with the HBO crew but I do, he has all the tools. IMO
For a bit of an obscure one - the Welsh kid Liam Williams was impressive this year. He was banging out his opposition in far quicker time than some "big" name prospects had
You LIKE a welsh fighter mate are you feeling well.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
yep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
Since when have I had anything against the Welsh? Don't start winding me up. I even consider Calzaghe Welsh even though he's truly a Londoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou LIKE a welsh fighter mate are you feeling well.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
No, no, no! Calzaghe is ITALIAN! End of. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou LIKE a welsh fighter mate areQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
you feeling well.:vd:
Since when have I had anything against the Welsh? Don't start winding me up. I even consider Calzaghe Welsh even though he's
truly a Londoner.
Well mate you are King The C mate as you told us.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterSince when have I had anything against the Welsh? Don't start winding me up. I even consider Calzaghe Welsh even though he's truly a Londoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou LIKE a welsh fighter mate are you feeling well.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Beterbiev is a monster if I am correct he has KO Kovalev on 2 occasions in the amateurs, so theQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerayep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
way he just dealt with Cloud was impressive to say the least.
Luke Campbell I feel he is something special, Smith he's decent but still work in progress.
Joshua is a great prospect I hope they don't rush him.
Excellent pick all your fighters.:)
In with pretty soft competition so far, but they all start that way. Hope he lives up to your expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
DeGale has improved a lot.
NO ONE tops Callum Smith this year in terms progression.
Joshua is a tight second.
Thank you very much. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerayep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
Beterbiev is a monster if I am correct he has KO Kovalev on 2 occasions in the amateurs, so the
way he just dealt with Cloud was
impressive to say the least.
Luke Campbell I feel he is something special, Smith he's decent but still work in progress.
Joshua is a great prospect I hope
they don't rush him.
Excellent pick all your fighters.:)
Kosei Tanaka.
Sorry folks but its really between Kosei and Beterbiev, Ryo Matsumoto has had a great year too, as has Shohei Omori.
Against Bhop, Kovalev upped his game from banger to thinker.
Whoever beat him in amateurs should remember, for decades on decades guys who beat top names in amatuers, usually lose against them when they turn pro.
Definitely Berbetiev. Canadian promoters wouldn't normally put a top prospect in with somebody like Cloud until the fight before a world title shot. Berbetiev did it in his seventh fight and the performance was very impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoBeterbiev is a monster if I am correct he has KO Kovalev on 2 occasions in the amateurs, so theQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerayep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
way he just dealt with Cloud was impressive to say the least.
Luke Campbell I feel he is something special, Smith he's decent but still work in progress.
Joshua is a great prospect I hope they don't rush him.
Excellent pick all your fighters.:)
Yes I was very impressed Cloud is extremely tough, Berbetiev just took him apart a great performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingDefinitely Berbetiev. Canadian promoters wouldn't normally put a top prospect in with somebody like Cloud until the fight before a world title shot. Berbetiev did it in his seventh fight and the performance was very impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoBeterbiev is a monster if I am correct he has KO Kovalev on 2 occasions in the amateurs, so theQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerayep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
way he just dealt with Cloud was impressive to say the least.
Luke Campbell I feel he is something special, Smith he's decent but still work in progress.
Joshua is a great prospect I hope they don't rush him.
Excellent pick all your fighters.:)
I know the guy Beterbiev fights next... I did a small prayer for him... eekQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYes I was very impressed Cloud is extremely tough, Berbetiev just took him apart a great performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingDefinitely Berbetiev. Canadian promoters wouldn't normally put a top prospect in with somebody like Cloud until the fight before a world title shot. Berbetiev did it in his seventh fight and the performance was very impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoBeterbiev is a monster if I am correct he has KO Kovalev on 2 occasions in the amateurs, so theQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerayep, and now you've managed to mention him on every meaningful active thread for the last 2 weeks! Congratulations. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worldwide- Lomachenko , Walters, Crawford, Beterbiev.
Brits- Callum Smith, Joshua, Luke Campbell.
way he just dealt with Cloud was impressive to say the least.
Luke Campbell I feel he is something special, Smith he's decent but still work in progress.
Joshua is a great prospect I hope they don't rush him.
Excellent pick all your fighters.:)
Morrison has some jab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzdJN0lsTF4
At the top I think Errol Spence jr and a Crawford have close to the full package, staying with welter and the return of all the oxygen Floyd was sucking out of it, young guns Sammy Vasquez and Sadam Ali show sound potential to deepen division even more. Tons of talent and so many outlets now, anyone who says boxing is struggling can go pound sand ;D
Have to say Crawford is it for me. Many gave him mention here but I suspect he could be a Super Star. He has all the tools and can break them out at will. His last fight, it looked like he was struggling but as soon as he turned it on he dominated. He said after the fight in an non bragging way that he wanted to get some rounds in. What a pleasure to watch. We have Floyd, maybe one or two more fights and then we have some great guys to see coming up. No one will be out waiting for the Floyd payday. How much time did Khan waste making sure he didn't lose a fight waiting in the wings for Floyd. Now I'm sure he won't fight prior to Manny or at least not fight a competitive fight, and that will last to probably early to mid 2016. Floyd and Manny were great, they both did a lot for boxing but the point has come they will do a lot for boxing by leaving. I suspect we will all be talking Crawford very soon
Explain that to a none Brit, if possible. Seriously? Please!Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterSince when have I had anything against the Welsh? Don't start winding me up. I even consider Calzaghe Welsh even though he's truly a Londoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou LIKE a welsh fighter mate are you feeling well.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
You'll hear a lot about the suppose "new prodigy" in Gervonta Davis
I don't think that second part really makes sense. In Amateurs people lose, we don't remember when it goes the same in both fights. We only remember when the script is flipped. And we only remember when the big name wins in the pros because winning in the pros is how you become a big name. It's not that usually the script is flipped, it's that we remember when the script is flipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Yes, often the better professional wins the return. But isn't that to be expected since they are the better professional? So the true premise is the better amateur will win in the amateurs, the better pro will win in the pros. Where people get in trouble is when they say "sure X is better now, but maybe Y just has his number. After all, he beat him in the amateurs"
Calzaghe was born in London, England. He was then taken hostage to live in the Welsh valleys. So the superior English allowed them to claim him as one of their own. That pretty much sums it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedExplain that to a none Brit, if possible. Seriously? Please!Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterSince when have I had anything against the Welsh? Don't start winding me up. I even consider Calzaghe Welsh even though he's truly a Londoner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou LIKE a welsh fighter mate are you feeling well.:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster