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And your point is?
Im kidding. :cool:
You do realize 148,000 of those were Algieri fans dont you?
I love Manny but I didn't get the fight because of the shifty undercards.
Not surprising.
“We’re expecting around $700,000 up to more than $900,000 sales.” Bob Arum
From this article: Arum sees big PPV money from Pacquiao-Algieri fight - The Manila Times OnlineThe Manila Times Online
Don't let Floyd find out. Then he'll change the on again off again offer to 65/35
Wow that really fucking stinks! That's less than 1/3 of the buys PBF/Maidana did. I'm glad it didn't sell well, that fight should have been free on HBO.
You would expect the numbers to be somewhat low as on paper it was a fight made for Pacquiao to look good and that alone. Algieiri is a fair fighter, but he is only a couple of fights beyond FNF's and only just squeaked out a win over Provodnikov who is also a recently stepped up FNF's fighter. It was a poor card with a weak main event whence the numbers. It takes two to tango and you shouldn't expect a main event to produce dynamic numbers with one name alone.
That fight should have never been a PPV so 300 thousand is actually a victory.
Money May's done some big numbers with small names. He did over triple Manny's ppv buys with guys like Guerrero and Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reginald Perrin
Reports are Manny vs Rios did about $450000.
Therefore, he continues to milk the boxing public and suckle on the teat with reckless abandon. A fan doesn't care about numbers, a fan cares only about quality fights. Mayweather/Guerrero or Pac/Algieri are one and the same. It takes one pair of eyes to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMoney May's done some big numbers with small names. He did over triple Manny's ppv buys with guys like Guerrero and Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reginald Perrin
Guerrero was much higher class than Algieri hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Reginald PerrinTherefore, he continues to milk the boxing public and suckle on the teat with reckless abandon. A fan doesn't care about numbers, a fan cares only about quality fights. Mayweather/Guerrero or Pac/Algieri are one and the same. It takes one pair of eyes to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerMoney May's done some big numbers with small names. He did over triple Manny's ppv buys with guys like Guerrero and Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reginald Perrin
Well, it was a shitty match up :cwm13:. Shocked they did that. Manny handed out his turkeys early this holiday season :-X
There has never been any reason to compare Pacs PPV numbers to Floyd's. That was never close.
Looking past that unreasonable comparison I don't know how anyone could have expected over 400k(reports vary if it was just over 300 or just under 400) for such a shitty fight. Algieri is not world class. He should have a good career on FNFs if he chooses.
I just hope the don't feed another FNFs fighter like Provodnikov to him next. Or force a lightweight to move up. The numbers say make a real fight!
I don't think it's unreasonable, they are the two biggest fighters in the sports, of course who can draw more money is important. Who draws the most money is important in any business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Whoever edited this story put a dollar sign in front of the number of PPV sales. Or the journalist did and the editor didn't spot it. They're saying the fight did 700 - 900 000 buys.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Arum, 82, predicts at least $900,000 PPV sales for the fight.
“The fight is receiving full publicity now. And if you ask me if I’m confident that this fight will bring in a respectable pay-per-view numbers, yes of course,” Arum told The Manila Times on Tuesday in a phone interview. “We’re expecting around $700,000 up to more than $900,000 sales.”
So not bad sales.
All the sources and articles I've seen say it did 300-400k buys.
If Pac did 900 buys with Algieri he truly is the greatest draw in boxing history.
Arum is known to pump up his numbers too, so I'm thinking it's closer to 300k than 400k.
Hopefully this will spell the end of PPV and more free mainstream boxing back on the tv.
Yeah here's hoping. I think PPV is dying a slow death anyway with the internet. The UFC PPV buy rate was down big time this year (although a lot of that was big name fighters dropping out of fights due to injury). The WWE pro wrestling PPVs went down the tubes and now instead they have their own network where you pay $10 bucks a month and you get to watch all the PPVs and get all their content on demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Of course. But Pac has never drawn the numbers Floyd has drawn so why say it over and over again? Floyd has the 2 biggest PPVs ever to his credit. When Pac gets the 3rd highest, or 4th or 5th or... Then there is a reason to discuss it. Until then Floyd is the current PPV King and Pac is his own star in his own right. Arum is still asking 55/45, the math doesn't work so there's no point in putting the names together.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI don't think it's unreasonable, they are the two biggest fighters in the sports, of course who can draw more money is important. Who draws the most money is important in any business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It's not an official number yet. The true numbers haven't been released, and if we don't hear different it probably will be 300,000 or there shouts. The same guy who released these numbers which he said aren't official went into a schpeil shouts Floyd's number patterns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Screw it, Floyd should do it for 55% I know he probably won't but he should. I think the different light Floyd would be put in for making the fight is worth not being able to be a full fleet of Ferraris.
Reading it again it's a prediction Arum made a month before the fight happened. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I think HBO have stopped releasing PPV numbers as well so we'll probably never know the real number. Highly unlikely Manny against a nonentity fighting in Macau does anywhere near Floyd numbers though.
I said from the beginning that this was not a PPV worthy fight. The card sucked and the main event was never in doubt. Floyd vs Maidana wasn't PPV worthy either, as Maidana hasn't ever beaten an elite fighter. Definitely proves Floyd's drawing power but highlights how bad the fans get ripped off. Hagler vs Hearns was on HBO. Boxing has hit its tipping point with the fans and after Floyd n Manny retire I expect promoters to scale PPVs back. Holyfield vs Tyson was like $40 or something, n that was a mega fight. Pac vs Algieri n Floyd vs Maidana for almost double that?!? Criminal.
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Back in the day (when the fight was first being negotiated), there was a serious debate as to which guy was the bigger draw. I remember a lot of people totally dismissing Floyd's drawing power and saying that he needed an opponent with a big following (DLH, Hatton) to draw any money and nobody cared about Mayweather otherwise, but people would pay to see an explosive dynamo like Pac no matter who he was fighting.