aptly set to the on-fire tune Voodoo Chile by Jimi Hendrix LIVE: go ahead get in the ring with this dude!
76 WINS , 68 BY KNOCKOUTS RECORD: 76-14 (5 LOSSES AFTER THE AGE OF 40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981lkwNDcVk
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aptly set to the on-fire tune Voodoo Chile by Jimi Hendrix LIVE: go ahead get in the ring with this dude!
76 WINS , 68 BY KNOCKOUTS RECORD: 76-14 (5 LOSSES AFTER THE AGE OF 40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981lkwNDcVk
Heavy hands.
I don't like to hate on the old timers but I can't even say those punches are telegraphed, they're Pony Expess-ed
yeah well that Pony Express hurt Ali worse than anybody ever did, knocked Holmes cold and almost finished him, knocked out Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, and 66 other heavyweights. GUess they all didnt see that Telegraph comin' :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
How did Holmes take that right hand! It should have been a perfect knockout.
That is a living testament to the alien chin of holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I made the very first Earnie Shavers HL back in 2005 when I was 19, before Youtube and any of that, and since then I seen a bunch more pop up that just copied sequences and footage from mine, put a different music track under it and called it theirs. Fucking hacks!
Kudos to him for taking local club fighter skills to world level. I have no animosity towards him, I like overachieversQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustyeah well that Pony Express hurt Ali worse than anybody ever did, knocked Holmes cold and almost finished him, knocked out Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, and 66 other heavyweights. GUess they all didnt see that Telegraph comin' :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Holmes reasons that Shavers hit him "too hard" which is why he was able to get up hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustThat is a living testament to the alien chin of holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Holmes was a true champ and showed legendary toughness getting up from that.
A punch that can knock you out, then raise you from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHolmes reasons that Shavers hit him "too hard" which is why he was able to get up hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustThat is a living testament to the alien chin of holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Voodoo Punch, like in the thread title.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeA punch that can knock you out, then raise you from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHolmes reasons that Shavers hit him "too hard" which is why he was able to get up hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustThat is a living testament to the alien chin of holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The 70s wouldn't have been the same without guys like Ernie Shavers. Scariest era of heavy hitters EVER.
Yeah I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Thank god Wladimir didn't compete in that era. What with dudes like Jerry Quarry and Alfredo Evangelista around, one touch on that glass jaw of his could prove fatal! LOL
Foreman, Lyle and Shavers would hurt poor old Wlad with a jab and stiffen his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerYeah I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Thank god Wladimir didn't compete in that era. What with dudes like Jerry Quarry and Alfredo Evangelista around, one touch on that glass jaw of his could prove fatal! LOL
Lyle might KO wlad with that power-jabQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterForeman, Lyle and Shavers would hurt poor old Wlad with a jab and stiffen his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerYeah I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Thank god Wladimir didn't compete in that era. What with dudes like Jerry Quarry and Alfredo Evangelista around, one touch on that glass jaw of his could prove fatal! LOL
Really, then where is the evidence of Wladimir ever being KOed by a power jab and where is the evidence of Lyle ever KOing an opponent with a power jab?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustLyle might KO wlad with that power-jabQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterForeman, Lyle and Shavers would hurt poor old Wlad with a jab and stiffen his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerYeah I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Thank god Wladimir didn't compete in that era. What with dudes like Jerry Quarry and Alfredo Evangelista around, one touch on that glass jaw of his could prove fatal! LOL
Wladimir Klitschko has barely fought anybody as small as Lyle with as little heavy+quality experience as Lyle let alone lost to one. Lyle who was never a champ.
Lyle, despite being among the smallest, would also be among the SLOWEST opponents Wladimir ever faced and also one of the LEAST SKILLED!
The 17-1 at fight, career bum, 234lb Charles Shufford illustrated on the other thread which I provided the video for, was astoundingly sharper skilled and much quicker and more athletic as well as stronger than Lyle.
Ali's top opponents would not cut the mustard against NO NAME opponents of Klitschko, let alone the prominent ones. Let alone Klitschko himself!
And I LIKE Ron Lyle. I think he was one of the BEST boxers of the 70's!
In fact IMO he should have BEAT Ali!
Ali did not land a single meaningful punch, was never in the fight against Lyle until the very end when the fight was stopped WAY prematurely, Lyle was barely hurt! He would have not just won, but won easily! He also nearly knocked out Foreman in an even fight that George happened to come out of on top. A punch bag fight if there ever was one!
Sorry but it's hard pressing to find a Wladimir opponent that Lyle would be able to beat! I mean really!
Basing on opponents isn't the only criterion. Nor is your incessant mantra of size. Smaller fighters often beat bigger fighters. And styles make fights. You're failing to include lots of other factors.
Watch the first round again and watch that jab. it rocks Wlad all the way to his toes. It is shocking.
You will always pull that up, a stiff jab out of position from a 240lber will not go unnoticed, nothing shocking there. Wladimir was never in any danger. You criticise him in a fight he dominantly won otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I was very surprised at the effect it had on him. You saw it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerYou will always pull that up, a stiff jab out of position from a 240lber will not go unnoticed, nothing shocking there. Wladimir was never in any danger. You criticise him in a fight he dominantly won otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Wlad then goes on his toes and does brilliantly after that with the left hooks but it made me realise why he holds so much and it all made sense.
Tyson and Lennox would eat him for breakfast.
Holy shit. Lennox and Tyson would medically damage his brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI was very surprised at the effect it had on him. You saw it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerYou will always pull that up, a stiff jab out of position from a 240lber will not go unnoticed, nothing shocking there. Wladimir was never in any danger. You criticise him in a fight he dominantly won otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Wlad then goes on his toes and does brilliantly after that with the left hooks but it made me realise why he holds so much and it all made sense.
Tyson and Lennox would eat him for breakfast.