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I think this would have been one of the greatest HW fights of all time.
Two men who simply couldn't be broken, two men with iron in their fists and enormous hearts, who never take a backwards step and never stop punching.
Wow what a fight that would have been!
2 goombah's fighting each other, I dont know if Id like that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Chuvalo is Croatian so it's all good, let them fight!
OK good, so in that case, Rocky outlasts him in a 14 round donnybrook. Marciano KOs Chuvalo with an uppercut in the 14th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I dunno I think Chuvalo by body shot KO in the 8th... but it would be tough!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustOK good, so in that case, Rocky outlasts him in a 14 round donnybrook. Marciano KOs Chuvalo with an uppercut in the 14th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
hurting Rocky to the body is like boiling water at the North Pole. With no hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI dunno I think Chuvalo by body shot KO in the 8th... but it would be tough!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustOK good, so in that case, Rocky outlasts him in a 14 round donnybrook. Marciano KOs Chuvalo with an uppercut in the 14th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Rocky Marciano
A Slug-Fest while it lasts.
But, Rocky by a TKO in 9.
George does not go down, but takes a lathering in Rounds 6, 7 and 8.
Swollen eye's will do George in, as he cannot see during Round 9.
I always thought Rocky v Holyfield (cruiser weight) would have been the fight of the century.
I think it could be a fairly evenly fought contest but this comment, as is usual for any of yours is ludicrous!Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustOK good, so in that case, Rocky outlasts him in a 14 round donnybrook. Marciano KOs Chuvalo with an uppercut in the 14th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
You think the iron chinned Chuvalo who was never knocked off his feet in 100 fights during a heavier and higher quality era than Marciano is going to be wasted suddenly by a 185lb plodder?
Marciano cannot win this one by knockout, only by overwhelming George furiously. George who can hold his own in this fight just as easily and only Chuvalo has chances to win by KO.
Please don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
There was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
He breath takingly dispatched nearly all of his opponents in startlingly more savage fashion than Evander did! Very high quality opponents too I might add!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
This Haye DID take chances too to get the job done in this fashion.
If Evander is the best CW ever, Haye is certainly number 2!
Evander is the best cruiserweight of all time. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHe breath takingly dispatched nearly all of his opponents in startlingly more savage fashion than Evander did! Very high quality opponents too I might add!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
This Haye DID take chances too to get the job done in this fashion.
If Evander is the best CW ever, Haye is certainly number 2!
So far I CAN agree with this!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEvander is the best cruiserweight of all time. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHe breath takingly dispatched nearly all of his opponents in startlingly more savage fashion than Evander did! Very high quality opponents too I might add!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
This Haye DID take chances too to get the job done in this fashion.
If Evander is the best CW ever, Haye is certainly number 2!
Finally.
I wanted you to pick on the fact that I said all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerSo far I CAN agree with this!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEvander is the best cruiserweight of all time. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHe breath takingly dispatched nearly all of his opponents in startlingly more savage fashion than Evander did! Very high quality opponents too I might add!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
This Haye DID take chances too to get the job done in this fashion.
If Evander is the best CW ever, Haye is certainly number 2!
Finally.
How could I possibly prove it? You are slipping. :)
Not sure how the rock would land on Holyfeild that well to be honest with you. All the big guys Evander has beat and fought all had fucking huge punches in which he would just shake his head and comeback. Rock face would fall apart i feel and it would have to be stopped because of it.
George Chuvalo would have given Holyfield a tough ride.
Shit LOL. You got that by. I do agree so far he has been the best of that division to date though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI wanted you to pick on the fact that I said all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerSo far I CAN agree with this!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterEvander is the best cruiserweight of all time. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHe breath takingly dispatched nearly all of his opponents in startlingly more savage fashion than Evander did! Very high quality opponents too I might add!Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
This Haye DID take chances too to get the job done in this fashion.
If Evander is the best CW ever, Haye is certainly number 2!
Finally.
How could I possibly prove it? You are slipping. :)
To be fair though being the greatest cruiserweight of all time is like being the greatest tin whistle player of all time, nobody gives a shit.
I've never had respect for the cruiserweights because it's a shit division: it's for people who are too scared to fight real heavyweights or too lazy to cut down to LHW. Pointless division. When you win the world title there they should give you a dildo instead of a belt, with a mallet for insertion. Fuck cruiserweight.
Cruiserweights are essentially the heavyweights of yesteryear and the gap in weight between light heavy and average heavy was getting too wide so they needed this division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterCruiserweights are essentially the heavyweights of yesteryear and the gap in weight between light heavy and average heavy was getting too wide so they needed this division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Additionally, the cruiserweights are weight limited and therefore in extremely good condition, they are simply more strongly built than the LHW's are. If they could cut down naturally to LHW, then that is where they would be fighting.
No top level pro boxer WANTS to fight in a division higher than their natural weight regularly unless for calculated business reasons.
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Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
Yes who can forget this guy , anyone know his name ?
If,
George Chuvalo could beat Rocky Marciano, then >
Eduardo Corletti could do up Rocky as well.
World Champion - Eduardo Corletti
Who is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
Yes who can forget this guy , anyone know his name ?
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Originally Posted by MasterWho is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes who can forget this guy , anyone know his name ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThere was a reason we deny Haye's competitiveness. He was not a great cruiserweight in the league of Evander. Haye lost, struggled and was knocked down at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerPlease don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
First you guys deny Haye's competitiveness with Holyfield, now you want to credit Marciano with it?
When did Marciano ever fight a guy 1/20th of Holyfield?
Ask ross he did 1000 threads on him.
I give a shit! The Chieftains are a great band, and Paddy Moloney is a bad ass on the tin whistle, their tunes wouldn't be the same without his skill on the instrument. Stick that in your pipe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker