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This fight is really needing to happen.
Wilder has to beat Stiverne.
Fury has to then beat Wlad.
Then they can meet in a unification fight. :)
it would be great but.......neither of those 2 things are happening that I can imnagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
We can live in hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustit would be great but.......neither of those 2 things are happening that I can imnagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Wilder has a good chance against Stiverne and neither have a chance against Wlad anytime soon, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
They might fight for a belt but not one of Wlad's.
They both have an excellent chance of happenng.
Stiverne ain't that good and was getting out punched by Arreola. I don't think he'd catch wilder as easy.
Im backing Fury and after his next fight a few more will to.
I think that Wilder will knock Tyson Fury out.
I think that Tyson Fury is a far better boxer than Wilder and will commence beating him up at first.
But Wilder will land a devastating right hand soon enough unprotected and Fury couldn't take it in my opinion.
Not sure if Fury could knock Wilder's glass chin off first, Fury doesn't really hit all that powerful, but he is very hefty, so I guess he does have his own punchers chance too.
Lol to quote Sammy Haggar "Cause that's what dreams are made of."Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
His next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Sorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Lets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
Wlad and Khan. Wlad hits harder then Haye. Khan too quick for Maidana who is very one dimensional. Fury is no Wllad and is certainly not comparable to Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossLets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
A better recent comparison would be Scott v Wilder. Wilder is crude and powerful. Scott is a skilled boxer with a weak chin. Wilder flattened him.
Yeah, scott is a skilled boxer;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWlad and Khan. Wlad hits harder then Haye. Khan too quick for Maidana who is very one dimensional. Fury is no Wllad and is certainly not comparable to Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossLets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
A better recent comparison would be Scott v Wilder. Wilder is crude and powerful. Scott is a skilled boxer with a weak chin. Wilder flattened him.
Scott had been furys sparring partner in the past and Fury battered him and bust both his ear drums. Thats a skilled fighter getting battered by Fury;D
Wlad hits harder than Haye? Khan too quick for. Maidana? That wasnt your rubbish equation. You said big punch v weak chin, big punch wins.
Hope your boss doesnt read this, you may be looking for a new job;D
No I said based on Wilders power and Furys chin. You decide to leave out two of the most important words in the sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, scott is a skilled boxer;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWlad and Khan. Wlad hits harder then Haye. Khan too quick for Maidana who is very one dimensional. Fury is no Wllad and is certainly not comparable to Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossLets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
A better recent comparison would be Scott v Wilder. Wilder is crude and powerful. Scott is a skilled boxer with a weak chin. Wilder flattened him.
Scott had been furys sparring partner in the past and Fury battered him and bust both his ear drums. Thats a skilled fighter getting battered by Fury;D
Wlad hits harder than Haye? Khan too quick for. Maidana? That wasnt your rubbish equation. You said big punch v weak chin, big punch wins.
Hope your boss doesnt read this, you may be looking for a new job;D
I can do that too with your sentence. Scott had been Furys sparring partner in the past and battered him. Implying Scott battered Fury which Im sure isnt true either :D
Hahaha! Your fucking stupid, you haven't even read my post properly and even quoted it dunce! I put "Scott had been furys sparring partner in the past and Fury battered him".Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNo I said based on Wilders power and Furys chin. You decide to leave out two of the most important words in the sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, scott is a skilled boxer;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWlad and Khan. Wlad hits harder then Haye. Khan too quick for Maidana who is very one dimensional. Fury is no Wllad and is certainly not comparable to Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossLets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
A better recent comparison would be Scott v Wilder. Wilder is crude and powerful. Scott is a skilled boxer with a weak chin. Wilder flattened him.
Scott had been furys sparring partner in the past and Fury battered him and bust both his ear drums. Thats a skilled fighter getting battered by Fury;D
Wlad hits harder than Haye? Khan too quick for. Maidana? That wasnt your rubbish equation. You said big punch v weak chin, big punch wins.
Hope your boss doesnt read this, you may be looking for a new job;D
I can do that too with your sentence. Scott had been Furys sparring partner in the past and battered him. Implying Scott battered Fury which Im sure isnt true either :D
Yes you said based on Wilders power and Furys chin. (Lets pretend Wilder has a good chin shall we;D) So based on Maidanas power and Khans chin, or Hayes power and Wlads chin.....;D
;D;D;D
Is that how you make odds? Like I said, hopefully your boss doesn't see this;D;D
:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHahaha! Your fucking stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNo I said based on Wilders power and Furys chin. You decide to leave out two of the most important words in the sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, scott is a skilled boxer;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWlad and Khan. Wlad hits harder then Haye. Khan too quick for Maidana who is very one dimensional. Fury is no Wllad and is certainly not comparable to Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossLets rewind a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeSorry Wilder fav over Stiverne.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWilder is favourite to beat wilder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHis next fight is against a very weak fighter. His odds against Wlad will only drift after that if he doesnt stop him easily as expected. Wilder is favorite over Wilder but most of the smart money is on Stiverne. Id back Wilder to beat Fury everyday of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Youd back Wilder to beat Tyson?
Based on Wilders performance V?
Based on Wilders power and Furys weak chin is why Id back Wilder. He is wild and crude and if it was an amateur fight Id fancy Fury but I think the power he has coupled with Furys chin I have to fancy Wilder. I also think Fury will be easy to hit. He is difficult to tag cleanly when he has a massive height advantage but the difference here wouldnt be as big (Wilder may actually have the reach advantage?).
Who would you back in Wlad v Haye or Khan v Maidana?
:rolleyes:
;D
A better recent comparison would be Scott v Wilder. Wilder is crude and powerful. Scott is a skilled boxer with a weak chin. Wilder flattened him.
Scott had been furys sparring partner in the past and Fury battered him and bust both his ear drums. Thats a skilled fighter getting battered by Fury;D
Wlad hits harder than Haye? Khan too quick for. Maidana? That wasnt your rubbish equation. You said big punch v weak chin, big punch wins.
Hope your boss doesnt read this, you may be looking for a new job;D
I can do that too with your sentence. Scott had been Furys sparring partner in the past and battered him. Implying Scott battered Fury which Im sure isnt true either :D
Irony
First I want to see Fury and Wilder fight somebody who's worth a shit. Wilder has a good test coming up. Fury I feel is a very protected fighter. If Fury camp thinks he is that good then put him in the ring with just a half ass fighter. A fighter has to grow fight by fight. Getting better and better with each bout. I think Fury has hit a brick wall. He has to be tested.
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Originally Posted by mrbig1
What is it with the thickness of this forum today?
Tyson wanted to fight Haye twice and apparently Haye is better than Holyfield and is mega dangerous. Haye thought fihting Fury was too dangerous for him;D
Have you any proof or as most of the shit you post based on your borderline gay love for Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
What is it with the thickness of this forum today?
Tyson wanted to fight Haye twice and apparently Haye is better than Holyfield and is mega dangerous. Haye thought fihting Fury was too dangerous for him;D
He pulled out twice. I said at the time when everyone thought he had retired that give it a few months and he will be talking about fighting again and low and behold I was right. He has been asked a few times about fighting Fury and he just dismisses it even though he knows it would shoot him right up the rankings and be a big payday should he win. He's not sure he can win is the problem.
Fury signed to fight Haye and when Haye pulled out they offered the chance to Wilder as he'd been in Hayes training camp and was fit.
Fury hasn't fought everyone you may have liked him to fight but thats mostly because people are avoiding him. If you all got your heads out your asses for a few minutes and thought like a boxing manager rather than a fan who wants the best fights.
Imagine your a manager and your heavyweight who you have invested a lot of money in is on the verge of a title shot in the next year or so. Would you really put him in with someone who's 6,9", has excellent stamina, can switch hit, has the longest reach in history and can make good fighters like Chisora look like nothing. Have a much easier time with him than either Vitali or Haye, to the point it wasn't competitive and it wouldn't even be for a title. Would you risk it?
WINNER OF Wilder vs haYe WILL FIGHT HELENIUS
Fury gets clipped at some point in all of his fights but he cant afford to make that mistake against someone like wilder. He would have to fight the perfect fight in order to win..
Wilder is a bum until proven otherwise.
If he beats Stiverne he will of beaten an inactive 36 year old boxer of no acclaim.
He should beat him, but nothing to shout about.
No body will be buying dvd's of this fight, 10, 20 or 30 years from now.
Stiverne is a fucking awesome force in HW boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla
If Wilder beats Stiverne he I the real deal. There can be no further dispute over that. His bum busting methods to get there will always be questionable but his intrinsic worth will be proven and solidified.
A loss to Stiverne will expose him. But it will not instantly bummify him. His stock will drop against good+hard punchers though severely.